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just a punk 03-17-2014 03:33 AM

Nice "independent" sources and...

http://pix.echtlustig.com/1307/cool-story-bro.jpg

just a punk 03-17-2014 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 20018024)
again small attempt to make insults. can you dude post without insults?

You have started insulting first. Why do you expect a kind reply? Re-read your own posts, please.

Bourke 03-17-2014 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20017444)
Around 93% of voters in Crimea have backed joining Russia and seceding from Ukraine. Turnout 80%. I guess this is called democracy.

Source on 80% turnout?

just a punk 03-17-2014 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bourke (Post 20018031)
Source on 80% turnout?

E.g.: http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/03/16/7019184/ (an Ukrainian source).

Antonio 03-17-2014 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20017444)
Around 93% of voters in Crimea have backed joining Russia and seceding from Ukraine. Turnout 80%. I guess this is called democracy.

Nope, this is called land-grab. Democracy is when the majority in a country as in the WHOLE country votes, makes a decision, and acts on it.

So, if the WHOLE of Ukraine has a referendum and votes to join Russia, now THAT would be democracy. This is Hitler-style land grab, nothing more, nothing less!

just a punk 03-17-2014 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20018039)
Nope, this is called land-grab. Democracy is when the majority in a country as in the WHOLE country votes, makes a decision, and acts on it.

So, if the WHOLE of Ukraine has a referendum and votes to join Russia, now THAT would be democracy. This is Hitler-style land grab, nothing more, nothing less!

Like in Kosovo?

Cherry7 03-17-2014 04:19 AM

Russia has been doing no more than other Imperial powers. The cries of foul sound hollow from countries that separated Northern Ireland from Ireland, had massive empires themselves. Broke away Kosova from Serbia. Supported the US invasions of Vietnam, Cambodia, Oman Laos, Angola, Iran, Libya, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Honduras , Boliva, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, to name only a few....

The EU and the US have funded and supported nationalist movements against Russia ever since Pres Wilson policy at the end of WW1 in response to the Russian Revolution.

Before that they were Imperial Russia's ally.

Nationalism and hatred of a countries neighbours is not the answer to the divisions of wealth and power in the world.

Antonio 03-17-2014 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20018042)
Like in Kosovo?

Man, are you sure you are not ex-KGB ;)

That's textbook deflection tactic right there:
http://changingminds.org/techniques/...deflection.htm

"I wasn't the only one. Everybody else does it too."

If if others have done it, that all of a sudden makes it OK? Not the way I see it.

just a punk 03-17-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20018057)
If if others have done it, that all of a sudden makes it OK? Not the way I see it.

Yes, once rules were changed somewhere, they will be changed worldwide. We live in the global word :2 cents:

Antonio 03-17-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20018221)
Yes, once rules were changed somewhere, they will be changed worldwide. We live in the global word :2 cents:

Good to know, now Russia can play in the sandbox all by her lonesome self

just a punk 03-17-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20018231)
Good to know, now Russia can play in the sandbox all by her lonesome self

:winkwink: 8char


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