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After readin' all this thread...still not sure which side to take.
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And if they let Bundy stay, why can't everyone else bring their cattle there? |
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At this point I'll just wait and see what plays out. |
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If something about this story doesn't add up, read this:
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/ Sen. Harry Reid and his son set up a deal with the Chinese government for one of their power companies to use area land for a solar farm, so this rancher had to go. Yes, it was technically illegal for the rancher to continue using the land, but the state of Nevada and locals did not care. This was entirely a federal government action that was unwanted by the state and locals. Bump this thread in several years. Harry Reid and/or his son will have profited big money from this. More importantly, they should have given this project to an American company. Apparently there is more money for them in selling out to the Chinese. |
The guy said fuck you I'm not paying because of some Mormon bullshit. He said they had no rights to be the landlord. When consider he stopped paying in 93, they gave him lots of rope. Also info wars is fiction.people are posting opinion sites and op pages. Read the Las Vegas review article sums it all up without the hyper partisan bullshit. And vend if i posted daily kos or mother Jones links you would be bitching how they are bullshit.
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It's you conspiracy nuts that use these minor technicalities to screw your pet targets day in day out - Sorry, it works both ways..... |
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All of what other ranchers are paying these fees? There are ZERO other ranchers as the BLM ran them all out. Bundy is literally the last man standing. This thread is overflowing with misinformation and ignorant opinions...Even for GFY standards. :2 cents: |
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/search/...type%3Aarticle I just read all 11 articles in that search and none of them had any better non-partisan explanation of events than the one I posted on page 1 here. particularly, which lvr article are you claiming clearly reveals bundy is motivated purely by his religion? |
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Because I'm against our present administration, everyone calls me a republican, I'm a registered Libertarian. It would probably shock you to know I read Mother Jones, but they have nothing on the Bundy Ranch. And the Daily Kos is blaming right wing news sources for the problems. I read several of the liberal news sites, I'm going to buying advertising from them soon for something I'm working on |
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Now they're making him their bitch rightfully so. |
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If he had threatened the officials, they would have arrested him, you're not very smart are you? I've actually read a lot of this and I have yet to see where he has made any threats other than he has a gun. Stay out of these threads till you can muster an opinion based on fact and not hype! |
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"Thousands of other ranchers". |
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Look again dip shit, many sources have come up. Fuck, must be early in the morning for you! |
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At least my mind still works, more than you can say! |
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You put words into the mouth of people that clearly said nothing like that, you then blame one of many news sources mentioned in this thread as some kind of reason for your ignorance, then you make it about my age, are you the new GFY idiot? |
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Here's more of what he said: "Due to the roundup by the BLM, my office has received numerous complaints of BLM conduct, road closures and other disturbances. I have recently met with state legislators, county officials and concerned citizens to listen to their concerns. I have expressed those concerns directly to the BLM. Most disturbing to me is the BLM's establishment of a 'First Amendment Area' that tramples upon Nevadans' fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution. To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the 'First Amendment Area' should be dismantled immediately. No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly." |
the dilemma just keeps getting more intriguing to me! for 1 thing, it seems blm claims publically thta they are confiscating cattle and kiccking out bundy due to fees he owes but in court they filed documents claiming the reason they are evicting is due to the desert tortoise.
Another thing, apparently that's not federal land, it's state own land, so technically not blm's jurisdiction, from what I've read. But even more importantly, apparently Bundy's family has been ranching that land since before Nevada was even a state and their right to ranch that land is grand-fathered in. |
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Ignorance? Oh, ok. Well, if I'm ignorant because I don't fall for hyperbolic bullshit by the far-right, then so be it. I'm gladly "ignorant" then. Better than being an old, senile mental midget for sure. |
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That also doesn't sound as good in a blog article meant to stir up fervor of "lol government bad". |
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You defended your putting words in the mouth of others with infowars and posted a link saying the same things from a different source. I'm glad you are ignorant too! |
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Where is this a political thing? Ignorant to the end I see! |
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cooler heads prevail. |
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It's absolutely a political thing. The far-right wants another thing to cry about as far as the big, bad government. That's it. |
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https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/n...dup-decelerate 1.1 million in fees, so they spend close to a million to round up the cattle? The BLM and Park Service have not released any cost projections for the operation, but almost $1 million will be paid to a Utah-based livestock contractor hired to collect Bundy’s cattle. That makes you the ignorant one! If it were about dues, how can they justify spending a million dollars to collect a million dollars? |
guns and cows - i had to check my calendar if i didnt accidentally traveled back in time...
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I heard the rancher himself in a radio interview here in Vegas yesterday.
He brought up some good points: 1. His family have grazed their cattle there since 1887. 2. The land is NOT federal land. It is "owned" by Clark County. 3. He has paid his "grazing fees" to Clark County every year. 4. The BLM is using a tortoise as the excuse for this land grab. 5. The tortoise in question has lived in harmony with cattle for hundreds of years 6. The BLM themselves euthanized 1000 of these "endangered" tortoises because their population growth is out of control. I found all of this to be very interesting. And also very interesting that our senator Harry Reid has his hands all in it for his cronies. Not only is he pushing this...but the new head of the BLM worked for Harry Reid. Just follow the money and you'll see quickly why the feds have sent in an army to drive cattle ranchers off of land that belongs to Nevada. |
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