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Vendzilla 06-10-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20119274)
I didn't feel like wasting more than 30 seconds on GFY's resident retard. :winkwink:

(that literally took me 30 seconds to do)

Ok, so tell me, what's wrong with the OP?

Vendzilla 06-10-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20119272)
Am I or did I hit the nail squarely on the head?

Hmmmmmm!

Nope, they deserve a military trial, but not a civilian trail.

If found guilty, they should be executed if they are found guilty of terrorism and murder

Vendzilla 06-10-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 20119253)
Give me a break they deleted the tweets for political reasons. You say the President lied so
now they removed there tweets welcoming home this guy and sending prayers to him in his family. Tells you a lot about the person right there. There were nothing wrong with those tweets at all. There was no praise for Obama just only a return of one of our soldiers. Partisan politics one again in play stop drinking the kool aid.

I'm not the one saying he lied, news outlets, left and right are saying it. That's whyy they are deleting them

MaDalton 06-10-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119278)
I get bored sometimes.

and making fun of idiots that don't know what's going in is fun!

No one has even commented really on the lies I put out in the OP, they all are going after the morality of it. Majority of the people that have been polled do not like what he did and how he did it.

you really think you are making fun of others? and make them look like idiots? :helpme

candyflip 06-10-2014 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119283)
Ok, so tell me, what's wrong with the OP?

I don't give a fuck one way or the other. Unlike yourself, I don't get riled up over political bullshit that I have absolutely no control or influence over. If doesn't matter what you or I think. So I would rather spend 30 seconds in Photoshop making fun of you instead.

Vendzilla 06-10-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20119288)
you really think you are making fun of others? and make them look like idiots? :helpme

I never start out like that, but then some of my fans get in there and without even reading what I posted, they attack me.
Then they get butt hurt when I give it right back to them.

Simple, I think the trade was wrong, they think bringing terrorist back to their home is good and trading them for a known deserter. That's their opinion. Not mine.

I posted in the OP that Obama lied about several things, nothing new, but it seems people are ok with that. Yet the same people will get on their roof tops and shout that Bush lied about the wars and should be arrested for war crimes. He didn't lie, he got bad intel and a lot of democrats backed him up on the same intel.

Anyways, wasted enough time on this, working on a project at the same time and need to focus on that right now.

Vendzilla 06-10-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20119290)
I don't give a fuck one way or the other. Unlike yourself, I don't get riled up over political bullshit that I have absolutely no control or influence over. If doesn't matter what you or I think. So I would rather spend 30 seconds in Photoshop making fun of you instead.

Ok, so you are just here to attack me and never read the OP?

Kinda trollish, but ok

candyflip 06-10-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119297)
Ok, so you are just here to attack me and never read the OP?

Kinda trollish, but ok

I read the OP. I don't give a fuck. I don't see why this is an issue. I really don't care. There are bigger problems in this world.

WDF 06-10-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119286)
Nope, they deserve a military trial, but not a civilian trail.

If found guilty, they should be executed if they are found guilty of terrorism and murder

Still back peddling on the tried and executed comment I see.

Bryan G 06-10-2014 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119293)
I never start out like that, but then some of my fans get in there and without even reading what I posted, they attack me.
Then they get butt hurt when I give it right back to them.

Simple, I think the trade was wrong, they think bringing terrorist back to their home is good and trading them for a known deserter. That's their opinion. Not mine.

I posted in the OP that Obama lied about several things, nothing new, but it seems people are ok with that. Yet the same people will get on their roof tops and shout that Bush lied about the wars and should be arrested for war crimes. He didn't lie, he got bad intel and a lot of democrats backed him up on the same intel.

Anyways, wasted enough time on this, working on a project at the same time and need to focus on that right now.

I'm sure you would have a different opinion if that soldier was your daughter. Also, what is your opinion on Reagan trading missles for prisoners?

_Richard_ 06-10-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20119346)
I'm sure you would have a different opinion if that soldier was your daughter. Also, what is your opinion on Reagan trading missles for prisoners?

for prisoners?

i thought reagan did that before he was elected, to get elected..

Bryan G 06-10-2014 03:44 PM

Hostages, whatever you know what I mean.

Vendzilla 06-10-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20119346)
I'm sure you would have a different opinion if that soldier was your daughter. Also, what is your opinion on Reagan trading missles for prisoners?

My daughter would never desert, I raised her, she's a better person than that. If she was taken by Taliban, I would go get her. She was over there, but on the USS Ronald Reagan. Probably safer than we are at home.

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20119348)
for prisoners?

i thought reagan did that before he was elected, to get elected..

Reagan was involved with the Iran Contra Scandal and owned up to it, although he was never connected to it directly. It was a means to supply money to the Contra freedom fighters and the release of US prisoners in Lebanon. Our government has been supplying arms to other countries for a long time. I am against giving arms to countries that are unstable. And I was against that.

As far as to get elected, that's called the October Surprise conspiracy. I was there when the hostages were released. Right off the coast of Iran punching holes in the ocean between the coast and the fleet.

The two things are 5 years apart.

pr0phet 06-10-2014 04:07 PM

Well they won't be captured again. The drone ranger will just assassinate next time.

candyflip 06-10-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119393)
If she was taken by Taliban, I would go get her.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jesus Christ you are some fucking entertainment.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vkwsfqG16l...at+soldier.jpg

deltav 06-10-2014 04:30 PM

Lol, where is that photo from?

timlover 06-10-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119269)
You have to go and compare me with a couple looney's with guns shooting innocent people, shows what a JACK ASS you are!

Sure and before the other day, they were just like you saying the same kind of crap.

If it walks and talks like a looney, don't be surprised when the looney finally blows his top and shoots a liberal who doesn't buy into his BS.

Hell, I'd bet $50 the NSA has a file on you already...

Robbie 06-10-2014 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 20119481)
Hell, I'd bet $50 the NSA has a file on you already...

Yep, on him, you, me, and pretty much every person in the world. :disgust

timlover 06-10-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20119486)
Yep, on him, you, me, and pretty much every person in the world. :disgust

Haha. Pretty much, but his has the big red sticker on the cover..

crockett 06-10-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20118770)
Hey shit bag, this is only partisan for the people defending this.

Diane Feinstein even spoke out against it, among other democrats

Of course guys it's only partisan if you disagree with me..

crockett 06-10-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20119060)
But they lied about his importance, they lied about his health to by pass the law about giving 30 days notice.

simple fact, the Army found back in 2010 he deserted his post in a time of war. He was the only person to do that.

Lie #6: The release of the terrorists poses little to no risk to the U.S.

Just days after being released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba family members of one of the five detainees released by the United States told NBC news that the former Taliban commander, Mullah Norullah Nori, planned to return to the fight in Afghanistan. Nori is a former Taliban Provincial Governor and is said to be responsible for the Shia Muslim genocide in Western Afghanistan prior to 9/11. The attacks he ordered against his own countrymen resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians who were slaughtered for practicing a different form of Islam than the Taliban.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/th...#ixzz34FkkswiF

You are just incapable of seeing the trees for the forest. His importance was that of an American Soldier and the fact our military attempts to make is extremely clear to our troops that they won't be left behind. It doesn't matter if this guy was the best or worst soldier in our armed services. He was a soldier end of story and the govt made good on keeping up their end of the bargain.

It's amazing someone whom has served in the armed services is incapable of understanding this very basic point.

Biggy 06-10-2014 06:09 PM

The 5 prisoners that were released, weren't they hand-picked by the Taliban, who is still over there blowing shit up, trying to kill US soldiers, the Afghan military, etc? Aren't they recruiting Afghan military personnel to suicide-bomb US forces?

I'd feel a whole lot better about the situation if the guy didn't desert. But it's looking like he wasn't necessarily the most deserving candidate for this deal.

Obama pushed this thru to distract from the VA mess, that's what I firmly believe. He is a career politician, why should I expect anything differently? And it seems like the majority of people agree with that, otherwise his approval rating wouldn't be tanking again - this isn't a fox news poll, this is a collection of polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

It's all words and political arguing of whether it was right or wrong (and theres a case for each side), until one of those 5 kills a bunch of people, Americans or non-Americans. Then when that happens, will you still say it was a good deal? If one of those guys arranges one attack, and 3 American soldiers die because of it, is it a good deal? If they say they are going to do it then I am going to believe it. The fact these guys were held in captivity for so long doesnt make me feel better about the situation. And for the people in the thread who said they'll likely be killed by the Taliban themselves, then why were they hand-picked by them for release?

When you deal with assholes, some times you have to be the asshole and just get your way, whether its right or wrong, to protect your own. That's what Obama taught me in 6 years of being President. Of course, when you're the asshole and you only care about getting your way, then you have to be right / accurate. And that's what George W taught me. Obama is a bad reaction to George W. They are both trash. We went from hard to soft, and we really need to be hard, but we need to accurate and correct on situations.

johnny o 06-10-2014 06:54 PM

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...-bro-obama.jpg

Rochard 06-10-2014 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy (Post 20119526)
Obama pushed this thru to distract from the VA mess, that's what I firmly believe.

And if it wasn't the VA mess, it was the terrorist attack mess, or the IRS issue, or unemployment; At any given time any decision made by any president can be said that he is trying to distract the other side.

Joshua G 06-10-2014 08:11 PM

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Nori is a former Taliban Provincial Governor and is said to be responsible for the Shia Muslim genocide in Western Afghanistan prior to 9/11. The attacks he ordered against his own countrymen resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians who were slaughtered for practicing a different form of Islam than the Taliban.
so hold the phone...nori is a terrorist & a threat because before 911 he killed thousands of other AFGHANS during a civil war?

so based on vendillas logic...Vendzilla thinks william T sherman was a terrorist.

Vendzilla thinks george washington was a terrorist for killing all those americans during the whiskey rebellion.

see what happens when others twist your way of thinking onto you? you should be more mindful how you label others. especially when you have no clue why bergdhal walked off, & you have no clue what those gitmos actually did in the battlefield. You need to improve your distinction between what is a fact & what is a speculation when you vet your information.

:)

Joshua G 06-10-2014 08:34 PM

hey vendzilla...when george washington sent a federal army to suppress an armed insurrection of AMERICANS that did not want to pay a NEW TAX!

holy shit. washington sent an army to rout a bunch of tea party activists. holy shit!

even worse, washington got on a horse & led the army into battle!

WHAT A FUCKING TERRORIST our first president was!!! hey vendilla why do you think our first president was a terrorist?

or was he just another democrat? too bad there was no fox news back then to label president washington a traitor!

:)

crockett 06-10-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh (Post 20119631)
so hold the phone...nori is a terrorist & a threat because before 911 he killed thousands of other AFGHANS during a civil war?

so based on vendillas logic...Vendzilla thinks william T sherman was a terrorist.

Vendzilla thinks george washington was a terrorist for killing all those americans during the whiskey rebellion.

see what happens when others twist your way of thinking onto you? you should be more mindful how you label others. especially when you have no clue why bergdhal walked off, & you have no clue what those gitmos actually did in the battlefield. You need to improve your distinction between what is a fact & what is a speculation when you vet your information.

:)


Oh come now.. We all learned on the Colbert Report about truthiness

"The quality of stating concepts one wishes or believes to be true, rather than the facts."

We also learned that if you say it over and over again it becomes true!

2MuchMark 06-10-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20118735)
Lie #1: Bergdahl was very sick

Bergdahl’s health was not rapidly deteriorating, as the administration claimed. Reports have leaked that the only medical problems Bergdahl is suffering from are “gum and skin disorders” associated with poor hygiene.

The video of Sgt. Bergdahl’s handover to American forces that was released by the Taliban shows Sgt. Bergdahl looking relatively healthy. In the tape, he is seen walking into the company of U.S. special operations forces and then climbing into the aircraft without assistance. The video also shows him lucid and communicating with his captors. We know from previous reporting that he was able to write down the letters “SF” with a question mark on paper once inside the helicopter, as a way of asking his rescuers if they were special forces. This proved that his fine motor skills were intact, and that he was aware of his surroundings.

It has also been reported that one of the few exchange between Bergdahl’s rescuers and his captors was a question about his health. The Taliban said he was not sick. Finally, reports from Landsthul Regional Medical Center in Germany state that Sgt. Bergdahl has been in stable condition.

Lie #2: The Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl

To further justify its decision not to inform Congress (in violation of the law), administration officials claimed that there was a threat to kill Bergdahl if details of the prisoner swap were released. But Democrat Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has stated that there is no credible information indicating that there was a threat to Berghdal’s life.

Lie #3: The administration informed Congress about the swap


Reports from Capitol Hill have informed us that the administration last discussed the possibility of a prisoner transfer with members of Congress several years ago. At that time, there was bipartisan and bicameral opposition to the idea. The law requires that the administration notify Congress 30 days prior to the release of any detainee from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The administration has admitted that it engaged in negotiations to secure the deal that set Bergdahl free for over a week prior to the swap. During that week, the administration never informed Congress — and only notified congressional leaders after the deal had been reached, after the detainees from Guantanamo were released, and after Berghdal was in American custody.

It appears that the administration chose to willfully violate the law by not informing Congress, as we now know that there was no credible threat to Bergdahl’s life, he wasn’t ill, and the administration was negotiating for over a week with his captors.

Lie #4: The U.S. didn’t negotiate with terrorists

The president’s national security adviser, Ambassador Susan Rice of Benghazi infamy, returned to the Sunday morning talk show circuit last weekend to defend the Obama administration’s decision to release the terrorists. When CNN’s Candy Crowley asked, “Point blank, did the U.S. negotiate with terrorists?” Ambassador Rice said no.

She claimed that by negotiating through the government of Qatar, the United States didn’t negotiate with terrorists. The problem is that the government of Qatar wasn’t holding Sgt. Bergdahl captive — the Haqqani Network was. The Obama administration officially designated the Haqqani Network a terrorist group in 2012.

Lie #5: Berghdal served with honor and distinction

On ABC’s “This Week,” Rice said that Bergdahl served with “honor and distinction.” By all accounts his service was not honorable, but was in fact distinct: Bergdahl has the distinction of being the only American soldier to desert his post in Afghanistan and walk into the arms of the enemy.

Statements about him being a traitor, however, are premature. There is not yet a clear indication as to why he deserted his post, or if he aided the enemy. Claims that he trained the Taliban in explosives are hard to believe, because as a private first class infantryman in the Army, Bergdahl would have had little to no explosives training other than basic familiarization, which every soldier receives.

But there is plenty of reason to be plenty suspicious. It’s been said that Bergdahl mailed home his personal items two weeks before he walked off his post — something completely abnormal in a combat zone. It has also been said that he left behind his weapon, body armor and helmet, only taking a compass with him. Additionally, reports in the press stated that Afghan villagers have said Bergdahl wandered around asking to meet with Taliban.

Only time will tell if these claims are true, but it is becoming pretty clear based on the testimony of his former platoon mates, and the Army’s preliminary investigation into the incident, that Bergdahl did in fact desert his post.

Lie #6: The release of the terrorists poses little to no risk to the U.S.

Just days after being released from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba family members of one of the five detainees released by the United States told NBC news that the former Taliban commander, Mullah Norullah Nori, planned to return to the fight in Afghanistan. Nori is a former Taliban Provincial Governor and is said to be responsible for the Shia Muslim genocide in Western Afghanistan prior to 9/11. The attacks he ordered against his own countrymen resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians who were slaughtered for practicing a different form of Islam than the Taliban.

Lie #7: The five terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay will be under U.S. monitoring

U.S. officials have publicly stated that the United States will be actively monitoring the released terrorists while they remain in Qatar for one year. The administration claimed that the terrorists would remain in Qatari custody for at least one year before being permitted to travel outside that country. Qatari government officials, however, said that the deal that was reached did not allow for U.S. monitoring of the detainees, and that they would be free to move about the country while they remained in Qatar.

The Qataris did say that they would be monitoring the detainees while they remained as guests in their country. This is not comforting, though, because Qatar has failed to do so at least twice in the past — despite guarantees made to the U.S. government.

In 1996, the United States believed that Qatari intelligence officials were monitoring the movements of Khalid Sheik Mohammad while he was in their country. He was able to evade their monitoring efforts and went on to mastermind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Another terrorist the Qataris were supposed to be watching after his release from Guantanamo Bay Cuba, Jarallah al-Marri, also managed to leave Qatar and was arrested in London in 2009.

Lie #8: This was the “last, best chance” to bring Bergdahl home

I don’t know what crystal ball the administration was using to make this claim, but there is no indication that this is true.

To date, the Taliban have failed to engage in any meaningful peace talks with the U.S. or the government of Afghanistan. The Taliban have said that they will not negotiate as long as foreign troops remain in Afghanistan. With the U.S. and her coalition allies scheduled to leave Afghanistan at the end of this year, it is quite plausible that resolving the status of Bergdahl and the five terrorists that were just released from Guantanamo Bay could have helped secure a larger peace agreement. That is pure speculation, but is no more speculative than the administration’s claim that this was the last, best chance to secure Bergdahl’s release. What is their speculation based on?

Bergdahl was release May 31. In the days since, the administration has pushed the narrative that he was ill; his life was threatened; Congress was informed; this was not a negotiation with terrorists; he served with honor and distinction; the released Taliban leaders are not a threat; the Gitmo Five will be monitored by the U.S.; and this was the “last, best chance” to bring Bergdahl home. Every single one of these statements has been shown to be false — to be a lie.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/09/th...#ixzz34FkkswiF


Hey asshole I have some advice for you. You should stand clear of the endless bullshit put out by Fox and the other righties. You are insulting a POW and his family. You think you know everything but you don't know shit. You really need to learn to shut your fucking mouth, especially when the poor bastard isn't even home yet, and hasn't even had a chance to tell his side of the story. You are trashing the guy without knowing a fucking thing about what happened, just because OBAMA got him out. You really are a fucking racist. Stop being the fucking ass-clown that you are for once and give, at least him, a break, you fucking pathetic cunt. When any of this gets cleared up you are going to look like a serious pathetic loser - more than you already do.You real

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by timlover (Post 20119490)
Haha. Pretty much, but his has the big red sticker on the cover..

I'm sure there is, because of some of the company I keep. Ever been to a party that was being watched by the FBI?

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20119655)
Hey asshole I have some advice for you. You should stand clear of the endless bullshit put out by Fox and the other righties. You are insulting a POW and his family. You think you know everything but you don't know shit. You really need to learn to shut your fucking mouth, especially when the poor bastard isn't even home yet, and hasn't even had a chance to tell his side of the story. You are trashing the guy without knowing a fucking thing about what happened, just because OBAMA got him out. You really are a fucking racist. Stop being the fucking ass-clown that you are for once and give, at least him, a break, you fucking pathetic cunt. When any of this gets cleared up you are going to look like a serious pathetic loser - more than you already do.You real

Fuck him, he was declared a deserter by the army, he wasn't a POW, he was a hostage..


LOL, you think I'm a racist because of what? What the fuck is your reasoning to call me that?

Race creed or color, you seem to be putting me in a creed section, makes you a racist, dumb shit!

2MuchMark 06-11-2014 07:25 AM

Here's some facts for you Vendy :

- The Whitehouse did not pay a ransom to get Bergdahl back, but your boy George W Bush paid $300,000 to get American hostages in April 2002. You and the other righties forget about that...

- The Washington Post announced the swap on the front page of Feb 17th 2014. "5 Members of the Taliban would be released in exchange for Bergdahl". Both McCain and John Boener claim no knowledge.

- Bergdahl father, Bob Bergdahl, grew his beard to mark the time since his son was captured (5 years) and learned the language of Poshto (sp, sorry) to communicate with the captors. Fox news and other righties jump all over him because he looks like a Muslim (says that old fuck O'Reilly). But of course they and you suck-up to that Duck dynasty freak who anyone could argue also looks like a Muslim. The difference between the two? Bob Bergdahl didn't utter any hate speech. Duckman on the other hand...

Bergdahl deserved to be rescued and deserves to be welcomed home when he finally arrives. Hopefully he won't have to put up with any idiots when he does.

2MuchMark 06-11-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120102)
Fuck him, he was declared a deserter by the army, he wasn't a POW, he was a hostage..

Wow. You are incredible.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120102)
LOL, you think I'm a racist because of what? What the fuck is your reasoning to call me that?

I call you that because there is no possible reason for you to hate Obama based on his actions or policies. The ONLY thing I can think of is that you hate him because he's black. Everything you seem to say he does is just not true, so you seem to need to find other reasons to justify your hate towards him.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120102)
Race creed or color, you seem to be putting me in a creed section, makes you a racist, dumb shit!

haha.. no, I'm not the dumb one...

2MuchMark 06-11-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120102)
Fuck him, he was declared a deserter by the army

WRONG AGAIN ASSHOLE

http://www.stripes.com/news/who-is-b...gdahl-1.286405

This is your fucking problem. You believe the spoon-fed pablum by your buddies at Fox, or Rush, or Alex. You don't bother to lift a finger to do any research. You just listen to whatever reenforces your own beliefs and then spew them back onto the Interwebs for others to gobble up.

So let's clarify: You are trashing a man who fought for your country and his family. A man you do not know, over a situation you know nothing about, before seeing the "proof of life" video, and before he has even had a chance to make a statement. You're bashing Obama trading terrorists for him, but say nothing about the fact that GW Bush did the same thing (and don't forget The Gipper's dance to this song too).

You: Incredible.

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20120137)
WRONG AGAIN ASSHOLE

http://www.stripes.com/news/who-is-b...gdahl-1.286405

This is your fucking problem. You believe the spoon-fed pablum by your buddies at Fox, or Rush, or Alex. You don't bother to lift a finger to do any research. You just listen to whatever reenforces your own beliefs and then spew them back onto the Interwebs for others to gobble up.

So let's clarify: You are trashing a man who fought for your country and his family. A man you do not know, over a situation you know nothing about, before seeing the "proof of life" video, and before he has even had a chance to make a statement. You're bashing Obama trading terrorists for him, but say nothing about the fact that GW Bush did the same thing (and don't forget The Gipper's dance to this song too).

You: Incredible.

When's the last time I linked to anything Fox, Rush or Alex? Cheese Dick

Your link simple says the Army didn't list him as a deserter.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/06/wo...says.html?_r=0

Said he wandered away from his post. They talk about the letter he left behind that was never taken into account.

You have such a rabit hate for anything I say against Obama because I don't like him that you label me a racist, are you that hateful? Fucking Cheese Dick Canadian

Rochard 06-11-2014 10:04 AM

Because Vendzilla is on ignore I never saw his original BS....

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Lie #1: Bergdahl was very sick
The man has been kept in captivity for five years. He was locked up in a cage. It's a reasonable assumption that he was "very sick". He's also now mentally ill because of this.

Not sure about you, but he looked half dead during the pick up.

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Lie #2: The Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl
I'm pretty confident the Taliban has threatened to kill him multiple times in the past five years. Now as the war is ending and US troops are pulling out, it's reasonable to assume they had threatened to kill him.

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Lie #3: The administration informed Congress about the swap
Mccain is record months ago approving this months ago.

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Lie #4: The U.S. didn?t negotiate with terrorists
Are the Taliban considered terrorists? Not be the state department.

Is the Taliban planning on striking at the US locally? In NY or LA? No. The Taliban is really the former government of a country we invaded, but they really aren't terrorists.


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Lie #5: Berghdal served with honor and distinction
He did. If he didn't, he wouldn't have been serving in a combat zone. Until the moment he dropped out of site, he served honorably.

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Lie #6: The release of the terrorists poses little to no risk to the U.S.
Did they ever?

Seems these five all served in the Taliban government prior to the US invasion in 2001. One of them was a cabinet member, one of them was a governor, one of them was a policeman. None of them seems to have fought against the United States.

It's debatable that any of them pose a threat to the US.


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Lie #7: The five terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay will be under U.S. monitoring
The US will do it's best to monitor them like we have in the past. Seems we can monitor them pretty well being as we can tell exactly whom is doing what after they have left GITMO.

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Lie #8: This was the ?last, best chance? to bring Bergdahl home
The US is pulling it's troops out of the area. If we do not secure his release now, it will be much more difficult to do so in the future. The time to act was now.

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 10:04 AM

Hey Cheese Dick, I have a question for you, you seem to have it out for me because I hate Obama and his politics.

You post all the time about how you hate the republicans and anyone that stands against Obama. Even bringing up YouTube videos that are 9 months old!

You're a Cheese Dick Canadian, why does this mean so much to you? You have no cards in the game!

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20120369)
Because Vendzilla is on ignore I never saw his original BS....



The man has been kept in captivity for five years. He was locked up in a cage. It's a reasonable assumption that he was "very sick". He's also now mentally ill because of this.

Not sure about you, but he looked half dead during the pick up.



I'm pretty confident the Taliban has threatened to kill him multiple times in the past five years. Now as the war is ending and US troops are pulling out, it's reasonable to assume they had threatened to kill him.



Mccain is record months ago approving this months ago.



Are the Taliban considered terrorists? Not be the state department.

Is the Taliban planning on striking at the US locally? In NY or LA? No. The Taliban is really the former government of a country we invaded, but they really aren't terrorists.




He did. If he didn't, he wouldn't have been serving in a combat zone. Until the moment he dropped out of site, he served honorably.



Did they ever?

Seems these five all served in the Taliban government prior to the US invasion in 2001. One of them was a cabinet member, one of them was a governor, one of them was a policeman. None of them seems to have fought against the United States.

It's debatable that any of them pose a threat to the US.




The US will do it's best to monitor them like we have in the past. Seems we can monitor them pretty well being as we can tell exactly whom is doing what after they have left GITMO.



The US is pulling it's troops out of the area. If we do not secure his release now, it will be much more difficult to do so in the future. The time to act was now.

Has me on ignore but debates everything I say, fucking idiot!

deltav 06-11-2014 10:45 AM

Why do you guys waste your time arguing with this guy? Politics aside it's pretty well established - and I don't even mean this insultingly, it's just unfortunate fact - that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Everyone knows this by now. And as my grandma used to say, "Ya can't fix stupid."

But maybe it's a win-win: he obviously loves the attention, everyone else gets to feel superior about not being dumb as a rock?

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20120474)
Why do you guys waste your time arguing with this guy? Politics aside it's pretty well established - and I don't even mean this insultingly, it's just unfortunate fact - that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Everyone knows this by now. And as my grandma used to say, "Ya can't fix stupid."

But maybe it's a win-win: he obviously loves the attention, everyone else gets to feel superior about not being dumb as a rock?

I posted from a news website and my point of view is shared by the other soldiers from his unit. Just because my opinion differs from yours, you think I'm of a lower IQ than you? Pretty stupid assumption, don't you think?

As for everyone else, it's a knee jerk reaction, they will defend anything the president does with blind faith....

candyflip 06-11-2014 11:12 AM

Just another reminder:

http://imgur.com/tunCG4R.jpg

WDF 06-11-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20120546)
Just another reminder:

http://imgur.com/tunCG4R.jpg


I have seen that face before, recently, I know it is here someplace.:1orglaugh

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 11:55 AM

Reading the Daily Beast, how the hell did he get released from the coast guard for psychological reasons then was allowed to join the Army? Is it getting that bad?

Vendzilla 06-11-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20120546)
Just another reminder:

http://imgur.com/tunCG4R.jpg

candy flip
Noun: the combination of LSD and Ecstacy
Verb: to take such a combination
Ex1: What's that in my coffee? -- A candy flip!
---
Ex2: Man I was candy flipping so hard I didn't know my own name.


This makes so much sense now! LOL

RobertL 06-11-2014 03:56 PM

You kept asking for someone to debate the points of your OP. Now that someone has, do you care to counterpoint what seem to be valid arguments?

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120455)
Has me on ignore but debates everything I say, fucking idiot!


RobertL 06-11-2014 04:00 PM

I would argue that the actions of the US Government affect the entire world, Everyone has a card in the game of American politics. We aren't Latvia, or Honduras...We are 'the most powerful nation on earth', for better or worse, and anyone on this planet is better off being aware of what we do and don't do and having an opinion on it.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120371)
Hey Cheese Dick, I have a question for you, you seem to have it out for me because I hate Obama and his politics.

You post all the time about how you hate the republicans and anyone that stands against Obama. Even bringing up YouTube videos that are 9 months old!

You're a Cheese Dick Canadian, why does this mean so much to you? You have no cards in the game!


Rochard 06-11-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertL (Post 20120918)
You kept asking for someone to debate the points of your OP. Now that someone has, do you care to counterpoint what seem to be valid arguments?

Nah, it's just much easier if he calls someone a name.

He can't debate. He just cuts and pastes, then throws out some misleading facts, then tries to argue that we are reading stats wrong, then gives out some half truth and claims our government is spinning lies.

directfiesta 06-11-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertL (Post 20120925)
I would argue that the actions of the US Government affect the entire world, Everyone has a card in the game of American politics. We aren't Latvia, or Honduras...We are 'the most powerful nation on earth', for better or worse, and anyone on this planet is better off being aware of what we do and don't do and having an opinion on it.


WOW !!!! I never tought someone here would get it .

Bravo :thumbsup

TCLGirls 06-11-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20120102)
Fuck him, he was declared a deserter by the army, he wasn't a POW, he was a hostage..

This is why the Pentagon never labeled Bergdahl as a POW:

"The Pentagon defines "missing/captured" as a member of the armed forces who has been "seized as the result of action of an unfriendly military or paramilitary force in a foreign country." Some would say that amounts to being a POW. For purposes of reporting and recording the status of service members, the Pentagon some years ago stopped using the term "prisoner of war," although it awards a POW Medal for eligible service members and it has a Defense POW/Missing Persons Office."

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25...sted-by-us-pow

WDF 06-11-2014 05:29 PM

Doesn't it need to be a declared war for there to be prisoners of war?

Just something I heard WW2 vets say regularly about the armed conflicts and the prisoners taken during those conflict that came after WW2.

I actually think that was part of the reason for the reclassification.

deltav 06-11-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WDF (Post 20121006)
Doesn't it need to be a declared war for there to be prisoners of war?

Just something I heard WW2 vets say regularly about the armed conflicts and the prisoners taken during those conflict that came after WW2.

I actually think that was part of the reason for the reclassification.

Vietnam didn't have a formal declaration of war and we sure as hell called captured soldiers (including good ol' John McCain) POWs rather than "hostages".

Why does everyone feel the need (not referring to you, just in general) to constantly talk out their asses about shit they know nothing about?


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