So if other people steal shit, it's ok for you to do it?

This is what is wrong with this (and other) industries. It's full of idiots and thieves.

Yes, if you are downloading movies, videos, games, music, software etc that you fucking know someone else invested their time and money in, to make a profit off of their work (or art), then you're just as much of a thief as the the guy that goes into Best Buy and stuffs a videogame down his pants and walks out the door.

But hey, who is going to catch you? Apparently it's ok to be a piece of shit when nobody is gonna see.

Who wins?, VPNs.

You need to learn about how Hollywood handles accounting and marketing.

I haven't seen 1 or 2. Watching a bunch of old guys try and look tough seems a bit over the top for a good time.

A film needs to double production costs to breakeven. You guys are forgetting that they don't get 100% of the ticket price.

I'm totally ignorant of that. :)

But comparing the numbers of other big films (not the blockbusters)...and knowing that those "Expendable" films were number one at the box office when they came out...I'm theorizing that they made damn good money (also the fact that they have now made a third one...I assume the studio would have stopped after the first one if it hadn't been a big money maker).

I saw that the Spiderman movies for instance made about twice as much as the Expendables. But that's a mega-blockbuster.

The Expendables is never gonna be that. But by that measure...neither are 99% of the movies released.

I'm just saying that when you make a movie for $80 million and it makes $274,470,394 I call that "damn good".

But I definitely bow to your knowledge of how those numbers come out. I don't have a clue.

But if that's not good, then I guess all the movies that were not number one this week are REALLY bad financially.

How the heck does Hollywood even stay in business if they can't profit off of those numbers?

Is everything just riding on the one or two super-gigantic blockbusters each year?

It makes you wonder why they spend $150 million(or more) on a movie when it needs to make 3 times that amount to be considered a major moneymaker. Not every movie can be The Avengers or Titanic. Most movies that cost that much tank by Hollywood accounting standards.

Something like Paranormal Activity, that costs a few grand to make, and ends up making more money than the latest Tom Cruise movie --- that's a real profit.

That makes sense. Having said that...I really enjoyed the last Tom Cruise movie. :)

Plus there's also different terms for theater licensing when it comes to different movies.

I can imagine that to land "Expendables" license for your theater - it won't make you practically no money from the tickets, unless you sell out say 75 - 90 pct. of the seats for several days in a row.

You will break even and make profit on selling popcorn, fan ware etc. but you won't neccessarily make the licensing fee back. So these movies that have a "blockbuster" potential and a proven track of selling-out may even get a better profit margin when it comes to theater licensing.

Expendables are a safe bet and they know what they're doing, since most of the these days CGI fake action flicks just can't impress the guys that were raised in the golden era of action movies.

I was hoping it would make more money. They called it a bomb because it made 35 mil opening weekend, and so far its made 95 mil domestically. But international gross is around 265 mil, so that puts it over 360 million worldwide. Sounds good, but the movie cost around 180 million to make, so I guess it would be called break even.

It really is a shame that so much love, art and sweat is put into something like Edge of Tomorrow and it can't be called a success for making more than a quarter billion dollars.

Bruce Willis lack of involvement was cited as a disagreement over money, with production sources indicating that Willis was offered $3 million for four days of shooting in Bulgaria, but Willis wanted $4 million.

:pimp

Willis has been known to be a big dick lately. Who could complain about making a million dollars a day, especially when you're over the hill?

I saw a brief trailer on this last night. Did I see correctly? Mel Gibson and Antonio Banderas are in it?

Right there it's a sure winner. When the dust settles this movie will have made money. Piles of it. And not because it's a 'good' movie.

Really all Hollywood has to do is add in some extra footage, "director's cut" footage, or a few extra T&A shots of that hot female everyone's horny for, and that will cause the original to overtake any revenue lost from thieving freeloading downloaders.

yesssssss

You're in for a real treat, if you're interested. This is how they stay in business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...itable/245134/

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...ofitable.shtml

Too bad the MBAs took over Hollywood.

Rip Lew Wasserman.

Ah....sounds like the same way that record companies used to do to bands.

I saw the dvdscreener online but didn't download it, I don't want to "waste" the movie on a shit quality version... No time to go to the cinema though because of the kids...

1 million downloads but still hundred of millions in profit.
They are not worried.

Close, but in an entirely different league.

It will probably be terrible anyway

I had an early theater premier of the movie :)

What a stupid movie, why people watch this shit, i sleped 4 times before i finished this shit...