By law Maryland v. Wilson, US Supreme Court you have to exit the car even on a traffic stop if asked....

Any backlash you receive is due to being an idiot. You don't have to get out of your car so why in the fuck should you? The cop is supposed to be the professional here.

That applies in zero states :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Word for word he says.....

"I'm being pulled over by the Saint Petersburg police department one block away from my residence. He is accusing me of apparently refusing to abide by a traffic stop. He flashed his lights half a block from where I lived, so I pulled into my own apartments. This is my complex".

The cop most likely followed him for some time before putting his lights on, and when he did put his lights on the guy fails to stop and continues to drive to his apartment complex. No matter how you spin it, this is traffic stop - You do not continue on your way to destination when the police are pulling you over.

This is called felony evading.

Then he refuses to roll down his window, refuses to hand over his ID and insurance, and then refuses to get out of his car. At that point, you've committed a felony, and police are going to bust out your window and drag you out - no exceptions.

They are trolling... They are looking for something. Maybe you were driving just a little bit too fast or crossed the white line once - stuff we do daily - giving the officer just an excuse to pull you over. They see you acting suspicious they keep digging until they find out what it is. If you've done nothing wrong they send you on your way.

I have a friend who gets pulled over a lot. He says he doesn't know why but it's obvious when you drive with him - he speeds, tailgates, and generally speaking drives like an ass. Yet he has no clue why he gets pulled over so much.

so you say 2 blocks, then quote the guy as saying half a block. right. Not that I even know how far half a block is, here in the UK we pull over at a safe place, not immediately, if it isn't safe to do so. Fair enough if the law there says you need to stop immediately, tbh I'd take that literally, bun then again as I've already said, I'll act like a dick if I'm being pulled for a dickish reason.

Anyway, then you say he refuses to open his window, and refuses to hand over his id and insurance. did you watch the same video I did? What am I missing here? What video haven't I seen?

Like I already said, this has to be a cultural thing... I admit I also have extreme authority issues lol, but fuck, even if I didn't I just couldn't imagine being all subservient just because someone has an old bill uniform on. Each to thir own I guess :)

You couldn't be more right.

When police turn on their lights to pull you over, you don't have to pull over. You can just drive on to your destination. (You also do not have to yield to emergency vehicles either!) And when police ask for your ID or registration or insurance, it's perfectly acceptable to tell them no. And when police tell you to step outside of your vehicle, you can tell them no.

See how far that gets you the next time you are pulled over.

The police always say you can continue to a well lit area. Seems to get put in the news whenever they have issues with impersonators.

Google the story about woman being raped by a fake cop.

Don't worry everybody, the government is coming to the rescue

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...#ixzz3BXU8CcLC

The US Federal Police Force is born, Fuck The States All Hail The Federal Government! :helpme

What most off the world doesn't take into consideration is that this is a nation full of lunatics with guns, a nation full of gang members and machine guns in the car. A nation full of meth dealers and distributors. A nation full of Mexican cartel members driving around with a trunk full of severed heads. A nation full of drug runners with 10kilos of heroin in the trunk that will stop at nothing. It's not London. It's not Paris. It's not the EU.

Most Americans , more than Western Europeans expect people to follow the law, respect the rules and expect others not to break the rules and so on. Most people do not see the individual as a victim because everyone understands that you comply with the police officer. You do not talk back. You do not argue. You do not run etc. you simply say "yes sir", "no sir" and things end well for all. In any part of the USA, when you are a dick to a cop, your life will take a turn for the worst real quick.

It's important to understand that in the USA, it is always the exact same type of dickhead that "has problems" with the "unfair" police. 99.9% of people just say yes sir, no sir and thank you sir and continue on their day without issue. It's also important to more that the same dickhead that has all these problemswith police is NEVER the guy who says "yeah, I was wrong to be acting as I was" but rather they are always the victim in everything.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnn..

Recovery fund now 1,325

I'll donate too.

http://www.gofundme.com/ShannonRecover

Welcome to the police state. The new Amerika...enjoy your stay fucker!

The only good pig is a dead pig!

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Actually you are an arrogant retard, that motorist did nothing wrong whatsoever. Citizens have rights, just because someone is a cop doesn't mean he can say or do whatever he wants and you just bend over.

You heard the man say 'I've heard the stories about SPB around here, I'm not getting out of the car so you can beat me'. The second he cooperated they got physical. How some of you fuckin baffoons can defend that is simply defending against your own rights.

And then also said i am not from this area lol

I dunno mate, but that just sounds a bit like the excuse they give out for the 'war on terrorism'. Are there 'xyz people' yes. Is everyone one? no. Are the majority one? no. Is it 50/50? no. Is it a minority? yes. But let's brainwash people into thinking we need to do 'insert policy here', 'because.....'.

Is there really any need for a copper to get shitty, condascending, lairy, and lose charge of their emotions, because some guy is being a jerk (or even if they aren't - I'm talking generally now, not just this specific incident)? People can justify/rationalise it all they want, that's what we do, but meh, why is it that people like me can't say 'ACAB' without being (rightly, if I'm honest lol) tarred as an idiot for tarring a whole group with one brush, but the coppers can treat every citizen like a piece of shit with their hi my name is bertie big bollocks, and you better be deferential because I have a uniform on, and I'm mad because my wife wouldn't blow me last night so I'm being a dick and stopping people to let off steam?

This is correct at least in my state of Indiana. every few years in our area someone will try to pull over females with a fake unmarked police car and there have been a half dozen rapes in just the last year in my area cause of this.. On the News they said that you are allowed to drive to a well lit area if being pulled over and if you are uneasy to call 911 before pulling over.

this is all I found with a quick google

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...m#.U_2sbaNGiSo


with that being said the guy in the car was being a dick about it and was looking for a youtube video in the making with his attitude

Thats usually the case. People are stupid or looking for 15 minutes.

I met a white trash wigger neighbor a few years ago in south carolina who did these go fund mes all the time - said it was easy money and beats working. And the trend continues.

i noticed the guy in the screenshot was black and thought 'that's weird, the media doesn't yell racism at this' . Then i saw the video and the cop is black as well. So now no media mentions race. I think the media is dissapointed it wasnt a white cop so they could play the race card all over again for more views. Brassmonkey must be dissapointed as well.

The keyword their is to cooperate.

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Same here, his intent was to get the officer all pissed off before he was stopped, he was clearly seeking a reaction and had his phone filming.

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That's not true at all and it has nothing to do with 9/11 or anything in recent history. It's always been like this here and all of my life, i've been aware of the very different attitudes that Europeans (western) and Americans have towards authority and police. It's not something new here to know you absolutely do not argue with a police officer. People expect you to comply with the police officer. It's always been like that. Everyone knows exactly what happens when you don't... its always been like that. It's not about abuse of power as much as it is that everyone knows perfectly well that you don't argue with police here (or in most other countries in the world)... .you comply, you say "yes sir", "no sir" and ultimately end up going about your day. Thats why people don't rush to defend the guy.

These conversations are usually nothing more than arguing "i don't like authority figures" and have little to do with the facts. But as you can see, most people here think that someone told to stop, should stop. Thats what we want as a society. Thats what people expect. Thats what the law requires. As a whole, we don't want people arguing with cops. We want people respecting the law and the rules.

look at the sheep in this thread defending violent police:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You should read the post I made before you posted this.

:helpme

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...822-story.html

So, do you think the cop was right or wrong?

:1orglaugh

I find myself disappointed by the comments these days more than stunned. This kind of ignorance has run rapid on GFY and other places for years now so I'm ore or less used to it. :(

The "suspect" handled the situation very well and was WELL within his legal rights. The cop had absolutely no reason or right to act the way he did. He also had no reason or right to ask the guy to get out of his car. Just another "bully with a badge."

I hope he gets fired over this but that's not likely to happen. :disgust

He did not handle this within his legal rights. When you pull over you pull the fuck over, not drive to your apartment. When you are asked for your ID and insurance, you give them your ID and insurance. When you are told to exit the car, you exit the fucking.

NONE of this is open to discussion. Ever.

The first fifteen seconds of this episode became a felony crime when he refused to pull over.

Obviously I disagree and so does the U.S. Constitution. However, you've shown several times that you don't believe in that so there's no need for us to continue this discussion.

Thats what I was thinking before I saw your post.

It needs to be where they can't turn it off during a traffic stop.



If that happens, shit will change over night for the better.


Just Dave

Here in Vegas there is a public outcry for cops to wear uniform cameras.

And you would THINK that the cops would be all for that.

But HELL NO! They are fighting against it all the way. Funny how they don't want their actions recorded isn't it?

Looks like passive resistance to me.

Take your time when sirens go off and keeps driving to your residence.

Leisurely back into your parking space.

Crack your window only a bit not allowing the officer to see if you're armed.

If the stop would have been resolved in a peaceful way rest assured this guy would post the video on YouTube saying "That's how you handle the pig cops!"

That being said I had a fixit ticket recently. The cops pulled me over for a tail light out and took 45 minutes to "process" me, a block away from my house. I called the courthouse to see my options as the website is shit, no phone help because of budget cuts, so I gott GO TO THE COURTHOUSE, wait in line, etc. etc. Bullshit.

The U.S. Constitution does not disagree.

If you fail to pull over, it's called felony evasion. It's fucking felony. Every city has this law.

but he did pull over.

Cop lied in the police report. You only lie when you know your actions were in the wrong

He did not. He drove to his apartment and parked in his parking spot.

They just did this somewhere and they saw a 80 percent drop in complaints. I think it was Rialto, California. I first I thought "Well, cops must be on their best behavior now that they are being watched". Then I realized the complaints had dropped because in the past it was their word against the officer's, and now they caught red handed on video.

so he was involved in a pursuit?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

man oh fucking man