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Miss Hybrid 11-22-2014 08:11 AM

Review Clip Stores
 
THE FUTURE
Our focus is changing. Reviews remain the backbone but we are seeing fewer and fewer new sites. For many years we've been kicking out 20+ new reviews a week and over 100 updates for existing listings. We switched focus a few months back and are now releasing less than 10 new reviews every week and shifting our emphasis to updates. People will always want high quality porn and we intend to continue to be a primary resource for them when they're looking to buy.

I'd love to see reviews of models that appear on Clip Stores. Not sure how revshare would work on referrals, unless they paid you to appear in the Rabbit Clips area.

Anthony 11-22-2014 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20297889)
How can I get in on this Manwich?

It's the Manwich of Love, one below and one above!

rabbit 11-22-2014 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 20298488)
Never had the pleasure of working with Rabbit's, but I'll be damned if I say that it wasn't a rush to kick you guys off about a dozen #1 results for "[sitename] review" queries just a few months back for a client.

If you've ever wanted to be serious about building a review website to directly contest with Rabbit's, now's the time!

talk about competing for scraps! tell your client nobody is searching for 'sitename review' anymore. or better yet, don't tell them, keep them spending on that :p

JFK 11-22-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rabbit (Post 20298512)
talk about competing for scraps! tell your client nobody is searching for 'sitename review' anymore. or better yet, don't tell them, keep them spending on that :p

:1orglaugh:thumbsup:thumbsup

JFK 11-22-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 20298488)
Never had the pleasure of working with Rabbit's, but I'll be damned if I say that it wasn't a rush to kick you guys off about a dozen #1 results for "[sitename] review" queries just a few months back for a client.

Looking forward to 2015 and taking more off your hands. :thumbsup

But in all seriousness: congrats on still being alive and hopefully the redesign won't dunk you much in the SERPs.

To everyone else:

If you've ever wanted to be serious about building a review website to directly contest with Rabbit's, now's the time!

Classy, Very Classy :2 cents:

SilentKnight 11-22-2014 10:18 AM

Congrats on the 10-year progressive success of your site.

Interesting reading. :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 11-22-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 20298488)

:2 cents: ...

MiamiBoyz 11-22-2014 12:07 PM

The site makeover looks great! Congrats and continued success!

PornDiscounts-R 11-22-2014 02:19 PM

Congrats on the new site. A strong brand just got even stronger

rastan 11-22-2014 02:35 PM

high fives to the Rabbits guys. Good people to do business with, and as I said to Steve there last night- the ONLY client I've got that chases us to pay us money!!!!!
Fair play to you guys.

JFK 11-22-2014 02:59 PM

Fitty Not So secrets revealed :Graucho

Doug of Montreal 11-22-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20298455)
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to work with such a great brand and group of people.

Take a bow! You deserve it ;)

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20298473)
Whoever did the new logo needs a medal and a night on the town. That is a SUPER COOL logo. Congrats on the new look.

It wound up being a buddy of mine from grade school that did it. Beers are on me next time I see him ;)

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 20298488)
But in all seriousness: congrats on still being alive and hopefully the redesign won't dunk you much in the SERPs.

Thanks bud! We are sitting and waiting... and maybe a little praying... :)

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20298504)
very nice rabbit mr rabbit! :thumbsup keep up the great work! :thumbsup

VODKA! I know I owe ;)

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Originally Posted by Miss Hybrid (Post 20298506)
I'd love to see reviews of models that appear on Clip Stores. Not sure how revshare would work on referrals, unless they paid you to appear in the Rabbit Clips area.

The question would be how we'd review that. Right now we really review (read score) sites primarily--not content. Maybe we can put our heads together and figure it out :)

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20297867)
Nice write-up and a very modest one at that. You guys have always done a great job focusing on what you do best. I know how much work has gone into your site and it's always been impressive to see the way you've managed it with a true long term view for the long haul while so many others took short cuts toward obscurity instead.

Congrats.

Thanks buddy. That means a lot coming from you ;)

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Originally Posted by neeko (Post 20297868)
The site is looking better than ever. The new projects sound interesting

Thanks bud! :)

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20297869)
good stuff, guys :thumbsup

Cheers brother! Hope you're keeping well!

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Originally Posted by cosis (Post 20297903)
Keep up the good work! :thumbsup

Thanks... we're trying! ;)

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Originally Posted by Vegas Ken (Post 20297908)
Congrats to Mantas, Doug & the rest of the Rabbit's team. I look forward to seeing your future successes!

KEN! It goes both ways! So waiting for the launch of MyPorn!

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20297904)
Nice job Doug, very good read. Thanks for sharing

Thanks Jman! See you in a couple weeks ;)

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20298485)
Great thread, nice read Doug.Would be happy for another review, but would rather my old one scrapped & the new one completely new, as we've changed the whole site menu, design & direction of the set up. Skype us anytime x

I'm sure I can hook you up. Drop me a line this week ;)

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 20298577)
Congrats on the 10-year progressive success of your site.

Thanks SK! Progress... thats all we can hope for.

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Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20298638)
The site makeover looks great! Congrats and continued success!

Who doesn't need a good makeover now and again?? :) Thanks!

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Originally Posted by thebestamateur (Post 20298738)
Congrats on the new site. A strong brand just got even stronger

I feel a Britney Spears tune coming on... :) Cheers!

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Originally Posted by rastan (Post 20298746)
high fives to the Rabbits guys. Good people to do business with, and as I said to Steve there last night- the ONLY client I've got that chases us to pay us money!!!!!
Fair play to you guys.

And we couldn't be happier to be chasing! :) Thanks so much for the business and I hope we can do more come 2015!

robwod 11-22-2014 04:11 PM

Congrats. Indeed it looks great.

I've always liked dealing with Rabbits, so I may be a little biased. Great company to work with.

Doug of Montreal 11-22-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20298821)
I've always liked dealing with Rabbits, so I may be a little biased. Great company to work with.

You can be as biased as you'd like. It's our thread ;)

Cheers brother!

Cherry7 11-22-2014 04:30 PM

Shame you can't be honest and say you are not a review site but an affiliate to a lot of sites.

Like a book reviewer who gets a percentage from the books they review is not a true critic, just a salesmen in disguise.

robwod 11-22-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20298844)
Shame you can't be honest and say you are not a review site but an affiliate to a lot of sites.

Like a book reviewer who gets a percentage from the books they review is not a true critic, just a salesmen in disguise.

What difference does it make if they get paid or not, so long as the ratings of the site are not based on how many sales a specific site generates? The entire idea of a review site is to give people an overview of what to expect when they join a site. Because of this, review sites pre-qualify surfers very well by telling their surfers exactly what to expect when they join a site, both the positive and negative.

I don't see the issue myself, unless they are ranking sites in accordance with who pays them most. Then yes, in that case I would say you have a valid argument. But Rabbits has been run with integrity since I have dealt with them so I am pretty certain that's not the case.

ravenazrael 11-22-2014 05:13 PM

Congratulations RabbitReviews!
You have always been a great reference as a review site and as a business model. I had the pleasure of metting Steve and Mike dring Qwebec. Amazing guys!

incredibleworkethic 11-22-2014 07:17 PM

New site looks great keep up the good work. :)

Goethe 11-22-2014 08:00 PM

Makes for good reading. Congrats on your continuing success!

johnnyloadproductions 11-22-2014 09:33 PM

Used to check with rabbits reviews, back in the day, before I signed up for any site and of course click through the links. Nice getting a (somewhat) insider story of this.

Dirty D 11-23-2014 08:42 AM

Cheers to Mantas, Doug and crew for sending joins for years!

They have also met every bonus we have offered :)

Doug of Montreal 11-24-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20298863)
What difference does it make if they get paid or not, so long as the ratings of the site are not based on how many sales a specific site generates?

Admittedly, this is a sticking point. You'd need to look and compare one review to the next... to see if there's some sort of logic being presented. 90 points are set in stone. You either have it or you don't. The rest comes down to placement in the category... usually focusing on content amounts as a base, then up a point or down based on whatever could make a site special.

We list sites that don't pay, as well, but they tend to be smaller sites so you would rarely see them as being able to compete with the production power of a bigger company. It just happens that this usually works in our favor. There's no hiding from that.

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Originally Posted by ravenazrael (Post 20298875)
Congratulations RabbitReviews!
You have always been a great reference as a review site and as a business model.

Thanks! I think with more focus on updates, we'll be an even better reference.

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Originally Posted by incredibleworkethic (Post 20298939)
New site looks great keep up the good work. :)

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 20298959)
Makes for good reading. Congrats on your continuing success!

Much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20298978)
Used to check with rabbits reviews, back in the day, before I signed up for any site and of course click through the links. Nice getting a (somewhat) insider story of this.

Cheers Johnny! Hopefully you found some good deals!

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 20299209)
Cheers to Mantas, Doug and crew for sending joins for years!
They have also met every bonus we have offered :)

...and thanks for the bonuses, D! We've enjoyed earning them ;)

fuzebox 11-24-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20298844)
Shame you can't be honest and say you are not a review site but an affiliate to a lot of sites.

Like a book reviewer who gets a percentage from the books they review is not a true critic, just a salesmen in disguise.

I think it's obvious to anyone in this business that the review site model is just a filtering landing page. I wouldn't expect anyone to send free traffic to anyone else.

The highest paying and converting paysite with a crappy members area still doesn't stand a chance of getting anything from Rabbits. Their ranking system has integrity :2 cents:

robwod 11-24-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug of Montreal (Post 20300098)
Admittedly, this is a sticking point. You'd need to look and compare one review to the next... to see if there's some sort of logic being presented. 90 points are set in stone. You either have it or you don't. The rest comes down to placement in the category... usually focusing on content amounts as a base, then up a point or down based on whatever could make a site special.

We list sites that don't pay, as well, but they tend to be smaller sites so you would rarely see them as being able to compete with the production power of a bigger company. It just happens that this usually works in our favor. There's no hiding from that.

Yes, but I am saying to the naysayer(s), "So what if you get paid for the reviews". The reviews still tell people what to expect and that's the entire point. I've dealt with you folks for a long time, and I firmly believe the integrity of the reviews is very accurate. As an affiliate, I've used your site to determine starting points on whether a new site is worth promoting. And then when I gain access to the site for promo material, I quickly find that what you reported is accurate. I say job well done.

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20300139)
I think it's obvious to anyone in this business that the review site model is just a filtering landing page. I wouldn't expect anyone to send free traffic to anyone else.

The highest paying and converting paysite with a crappy members area still doesn't stand a chance of getting anything from Rabbits. Their ranking system has integrity :2 cents:

Absolutely agreed. :thumbsup

purescotty 11-24-2014 04:40 PM

Congrats Doug and Mantas, love the new site :)

You guys have always been top notch to work with.

webgurl 11-24-2014 04:53 PM

Doug and Mantas you guys are my friends! Glad to have known you guys seems like 4ever!

AshleyMobile 11-24-2014 05:07 PM

The HAREald. Wish I had thought of that one. :)

You both deserve all the continued success and I'm very proud to have been part of such a great team. Much love <3

CaptainHowdy 11-25-2014 06:48 AM

Bump ...

http://media.giphy.com/media/v310uFXwypbpK/giphy.gif

Kenny B! 11-25-2014 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 20299209)
Cheers to Mantas, Doug and crew for sending joins for years!

They have also met every bonus we have offered :)

If I look back there are very few affiliates that have gotten a check every single pay period from every single program we manage since becoming an affiliate of that program. We've had many come close especially using revshare, but rabbits has done it on pps and revshare without fail for over 10 years.

Mantas and Doug are amazing people, for 2 gay guys to dominate the straight paysite review market is something to be extremely proud of. :winkwink:

Doug of Montreal 11-25-2014 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by purescotty (Post 20300605)
Congrats Doug and Mantas, love the new site :)

Thanks Scott! And thanks for your help ;)

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Originally Posted by webgurl (Post 20300612)
Doug and Mantas you guys are my friends! Glad to have known you guys seems like 4ever!

Awww, thanks Liz! I think you were the first person to ever take me out to dinner at a show. SunnyDollars! :)


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Originally Posted by AshleyMobile (Post 20300620)
The HAREald. Wish I had thought of that one. :)

If you hadn't of left us, I'm sure you would have. You're quick like that ;)

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20301156)
Bump ...

We'll take it! :)

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Originally Posted by Kenny B! (Post 20301267)
Mantas and Doug are amazing people, for 2 gay guys to dominate the straight paysite review market is something to be extremely proud of. :winkwink:

I'm calling it. Phoenix. 2015. You need to do ten minutes of comedy to the assembled masses. It's time. :0)

Porko 11-25-2014 11:18 AM

Rabbit Reviews rules :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Xenophage 11-25-2014 11:31 AM

You should start reviewing tubes.

Jace 11-25-2014 12:24 PM

Great job bro, you and TheBestPorn are my favorites.

EddyTheDog 11-25-2014 12:38 PM

I like the new site - In fact I may borrow a few design ideas:)...

Just out of interest, what happened in March 2011? - Google pretty much deleted you from the index.....

Doug of Montreal 11-25-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Porko (Post 20301465)
Rabbit Reviews rules :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Cheers Porko!

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Originally Posted by Xenophage (Post 20301481)
You should start reviewing tubes.

Oh, if we could only make it pay... :)

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 20301542)
Great job bro, you and TheBestPorn are my favorites.

Cheers Jace! TBP rocks, too... no question ;)

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20301564)
I like the new site - In fact I may borrow a few design ideas:)... Just out of interest, what happened in March 2011? - Google pretty much deleted you from the index.....

Borrow, steal... whatever makes you happy. (just please don't piss off our lawyers! $$$ :) )

And in 2011, Panda happened. Some ya win, some ya... argh.

EddyTheDog 11-25-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug of Montreal (Post 20301604)

Borrow, steal... whatever makes you happy. (just please don't piss off our lawyers! $$$ :) )

And in 2011, Panda happened. Some ya win, some ya... argh.

Damn - Was it really that long ago - Time really does fly...

Cherry7 11-25-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robwod (Post 20298863)
What difference does it make if they get paid or not, so long as the ratings of the site are not based on how many sales a specific site generates? The entire idea of a review site is to give people an overview of what to expect when they join a site. Because of this, review sites pre-qualify surfers very well by telling their surfers exactly what to expect when they join a site, both the positive and negative.

I don't see the issue myself, unless they are ranking sites in accordance with who pays them most. Then yes, in that case I would say you have a valid argument. But Rabbits has been run with integrity since I have dealt with them so I am pretty certain that's not the case.

Payola, in the music industry, is the illegal practice of payment or other inducement by record companies for the broadcast of recordings on music radio in which the song is presented as being part of the normal day's broadcast.

Separation of payment from the reviewer is central to any honest busines

American Psycho 11-25-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbit (Post 20298512)
talk about competing for scraps! tell your client nobody is searching for 'sitename review' anymore. or better yet, don't tell them, keep them spending on that :p


what seo did you do that got you banned???

Doug of Montreal 11-25-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20301631)
Separation of payment from the reviewer is central to any honest business

I'd agree. Still... if you go and compare our reviews with the actual sites... what we say is in there to what's actually in there... i think even you will find complete honesty.

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Originally Posted by American Psycho (Post 20301656)
what seo did you do that got you banned???

We figured it was our model index, which we had launched the previous year... so we hacked it off, loosing many months of work. It was the right choice.

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