Excellent! I'll take some Mongolian Beef with them as well.

Nice chatting with you Mr. Fortune Cookie.

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Ah, you said fight. No. 187, yes. 3.

Before I got derailed into a pissing match, I hold the same thought. Some of the BAMF's I know are quiet and unassuming. You wouldn't even know Hell would be unleashed on you.

Last fight I got into was six years ago, and surprise, surprise, it was at a bar. I can't even call it a fight, all I did was make sure a guy stayed down whose legs I kicked out from under him as he was rushing to hit my training partner (owned the bar) from behind. The guy he was fighting threw a punch, he ducked under it, took his back and choked him senseless. Blood everywhere, as the guy fell forward and smashed his head in front of his bar.

We missed the first half of the UFC we went there to watch due to giving statements to the Police. Fighting for your life, one thing. Fighting cause you're an idiot who can't control your drink which let's out the inner asshole, get help. It's stupid. Once you realize you can cut down on your fights by simply not being there at the bar, club, etc. it makes life so much better.

does anyone here think that there would never be a reason for an adult to hit someone?

if you have had to hit someone, did you reflect on that and ask yourself in hindsight if you really had to hit that person or if there was an alternative exit strategy?

Well Bro, imho outside of training, where we hit and choke people daily, No.

Unless your life is on the line, or that of a loved one. Bear in mind, by the time most violence occurs, you are already at the precipice.

I'd consider having to hit someone a failure in my own assessment of the situation, or handling thereof. I've CHOSEN to hit plenty of people -- during training, in the cage, etc -- but I haven't HAD to hit anyone, and hope I never do. I don't want someone else's injuries on my conscience.

You could just sacastically say 'What, do you want to check my penis or something?'. Think I saw that on your Curb Your Enthusiam a few years ago. Lol

Wish there was a like button. Good post.

So you relate closely with Gay people who don't feel they have to hide what they are :thumbsup

Exactly this.

If you are minding your own business in public stepping outta your car in a vacant parking lot, a stranger hopped up on drugs comes outta nowhere, lunges at you and roundhouse starts swinging a knife at you, would you hit that guy to keep from getting stabbed or what would you hope you would do instead?

I would get into my car and drive away, or over that guy if it comes to that. Both options are much safer for me.

Only during "sex" and that was just because they "forgot" the safe word.

a few years back, walking back from the pub, I came across a couple arguing with the bloke getting pretty aggressive - pushing her and all that so I went over and asked if she was okay and the bloke started trying to throw punches at me (he must have been as drunk as I was as his punches were wild and inaccurate). the next thing I knew a bunch of other guys (maybe about six of them attacked us both) - mass brawl ensued.
I never did know who those other guys were and why they attacked us both!

I've had a few other fights but nothing serous, they all ended pretty quickly with no one too badly harmed.

OK, which would you do then? Because you don't have time to choose in this situation. A crazed street person is hopped up on something and swinging a knife at you, you may possibly have the opportunity to get back in your car and kill/run over him or if you are capable, can step into that roundhouse swing and knock him out quickly and easily with a proper hook.

Well, as someone who's been stabbed in a situation like that all I can say is, for me, the "flight" mechanic did not kick in and my brain decided he needed to be stopped by force. I wasn't into MMA at that time, had only started Kickboxing a few months before this incident as my friends done it and I decided to do it for fitness rather than being able to beat someone up. The calmest people I know are people that can fight, but at that moment for me I was anything but calm and I reacted. I do not regret hitting him, I just think now that I was lucky not to have been seriously hurt. Dom is right in what he says, if you can walk away from a fight do it. :2 cents:

Oh I agree. Generally speaking, one can blame one's self for being any part of a violent situation.

But your experience highlights the original point really well, at that very second, you didn't make a decision, you spontaneously HAD to hit that guy, no options. Only in retrospect do you feel that you had a choice.

At the same time, to expand on the exiting the car and being instantly assaulted scenario, the victim could be trapped by the door due to the perp who is also starting the roundhouse, would you feel OK now if you hit that guy in that situation?

That is an interesting question. If I was the victim in that scenario it would come down to 2 decisions based on there only being 1 badie trying to harm me. 1) Can I actually stop this lunatic, and 2) Can I do that without me being badly hurt. If my brain says "Yes!" to both those then I'd most certainly use force to protect myself. If, on the other hand, either one of those options is a "No!" then I'd try to get away as best I could. Being able to live normally after that situation is much better than having a silly story to tell imo.

Knife hopping is always a risk, so I choose the car. Also, the drive over part is unknown as I don't know how will the knife guy behave. There is no said that he will go in front of the car anyways, not to speak of me being forced to drive over him.

That said, I have couple times dodged a knife. If just possible, I rather avoid that in the future (not the dodging part per se). Not least as I probably get slower as older.

Interesting stories. :thumbsup

I assumed he meant he would not initiate any fights, not that he would not hit in defense.

Having to hit someone is a defensive action. I'm not talking about hitting someone because they talked trash about your favorite team, I mean htitting someone because you instantly feel you are in a life-threatening situation at that moment and are defending your life.

I think it is obvious that you "must" hit someone in defence when that someone attacks you in the way you described. You have no other choice, maybe running...

The other guys probably thought you and the other guy were fighting over the girl.
They thought that was so terrible of guys to do that they needed to beat both of you up.

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I guess my point on this video like most said above is thinking before acting;


skip to around 14.40 min's gotta love the musket rule of taking time to make a choice on what action you take :1orglaugh

Of course! Just like I believe in freedom of speech, and that others don't have the right to not be offended, I don't believe in having to hide from bigots who are offended by something that I am.




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