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james2324 01-07-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20349985)
<post title>Business Affiliate Who Made $101 900 In A Month Answers All Your Questions</post title>

Choose you words more carefully

https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=5110371

hey man.

I dont understand what you are saying and that link doesn't work.

what exactly is your point?

sonofsam 01-07-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20350303)
So far you have given zero valuable information regarding paid traffic, and have only been asking questions..

You've received a ton of helpful replies, but still have given no advice regarding paid traffic

^^^^^^^^^^^

james2324 01-07-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20350087)
For a guy that says he made that money by buying traffic you sure ask o a lot of newbie questions...

hey dude,

I specifically mentioned in my first post that a lot of my questions may seem newbish since I literally know nothing about the adult industry besides paid traffic and tube uploading.

james2324 01-07-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20350273)
Search the user name: it's an expired redirect, wonderful UX ....

hey dude.

search which username? my username? what is UX?

james2324 01-07-2015 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20350303)
So far you have given zero valuable information regarding paid traffic, and have only been asking questions..

You've received a ton of helpful replies, but still have given no advice regarding paid traffic

hey man,

I specifically said in my first post that I would answer any questions asked by someone who replied to one of my questions. So far most people have just been replying to my questions and not asking any questions.

Please reread my first post and you will see that I did mention all this.

ITraffic 01-07-2015 04:46 PM

what niche are you media buys and tube uploads in? pua?

PornoMonster 01-07-2015 04:54 PM

$50K Buy a site with Daily traffic already established.

Quickest and easiest... HA

420 01-07-2015 04:57 PM

What's your profit margin or ROI on your media buys?

james2324 01-07-2015 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20350329)
what niche are you media buys and tube uploads in? pua?

i promote different dating offers.

james2324 01-07-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 20350340)
$50K Buy a site with Daily traffic already established.

Quickest and easiest... HA

hey man,

Please keep in mind that i promote dating.

How does buying an established porn site help me generate traffic to the dating offers i promote?

Are you saying i buy a website that already gets traffic and then redirect that website to my dating offers?

james2324 01-07-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350343)
What's your profit margin or ROI on your media buys?

Most times ill keep optimizing and testing until I can get 100% Roi so for example if im being paid $100 for each conversion I bring in then i want to be spending max $50 on traffic for each conversion and I'd start to consider stopping the campaign if I was spending over $75 for each conversion.

Thats just the way i do it and not necessarily the best way; I just like always playing it safe with paid traffic. I know guys who run at low margins if high volume is possible so for example they would keep running a campaign that cost $90 to generate a conversion they where being paid $100 for. Ive never done stuff like that because i always feel with such small margins things can go bad too quickly; you can go to sleep with your $10 margins and wake up finding yourself in the red.

So it really depends on your risk tolerance.

420 01-07-2015 05:37 PM

If you're able to double your money consistently you should keep the method to yourself. Scale up and exploit that method before others figure out what you've done. I haven't had consistent margins like that for almost 10 years.

A heart surgeon doesn't need to learn all other forms of medicine. He's a specialist that makes good money. Why would he want to become a dentist? Maybe he'd like to open his own practice but he doesn't need learn the other stuff himself. He would hire people with that skill set and knowledge.

halfpint 01-07-2015 05:48 PM

Here you go I am no longer in the adult biz but did a lot of free traffic generating while I was. Some of these ways are old so not sure how well they work now.

Firstly there are so many different ways to generate free traffic and it can be very time consuming.

A few of the ways I use to use:

Forum Posting ( Apart from posting on other forums, I also had my own forum which I allowed webmasters and affliates to post thier links to so this in itself generated me free traffic)

Reddit (we all know this lol)

Link exchanges ( this can work sometimes depending on where the link is placed and if it is in the same niche as what your site is about)

Twitter accounts ( made some good traffic from this but you need to interact with your follwers so can be time consuming)

FB accounts (same as above)

Youtube accounts (again can generate good traffic... One way around the non porn with Youtube is to use "sexy videos" and send the users to a non nude but sexy site with links to the porn site you are promoting)

Pinterest and similar sites

Link dump sites (These used to be popular and some of them would send a lot of traffic)

Other adult social media sites ( There used to be a few of these about, U could make up a profile using purchased content and send the traffic to the same profile on the porn site you are promoting)

Search engines other than just Google ( kinda obvious this one lol)


These are just a few which i used in the past there are still many other ways to get free traffic some of it is crap some of it would convert ..hope this helps a few :)

james2324 01-07-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350396)
If you're able to double your money consistently you should keep the method to yourself. Scale up and exploit that method before others figure out what you've done. I haven't had consistent margins like that for almost 10 years.

A heart surgeon doesn't need to learn all other forms of medicine. He's a specialist that makes good money. Why would he want to become a dentist? Maybe he'd like to open his own practice but he doesn't need learn the other stuff himself. He would hire people with that skill set and knowledge.

hey dude,

Paid traffic doesn't work like that, there is no method. You must be launching, testing and optimizing campaigns constantly since campaign are also constantly dieing. There is no "set it and forget it" method, there is no secret people can find out that will give them instant success; media buying is not like that at all.

Its a constant cycle of launching campaigns and then testing to try to get them profitable or to keep them profitable as long as possible once they are.

Also, I don't understand your analogy with the surgeon and dentist. Are you suggesting that I should stick to paid traffic and not worry about free traffic? if that's your point then i simply disagree.

You also mentioned this "He would hire people with that skill set and knowledge." . Thats pretty much what im doing, my plan is to acquire the knowledge i need to generate free traffic then put together a team of people who do the work to generate this free traffic while i focus on paid traffic. I mentioned this in my first post.

420 01-07-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350405)
hey dude,

Paid traffic doesn't work like that, there is no method. You must be launching, testing and optimizing campaigns constantly since campaign are also constantly dieing. There is no "set it and forget it" method, media buying is not like that at all.

Also, I don't understand your analogy with the surgeon and dentist. Are you suggesting that I should stick to paid traffic and not worry about free traffic? if that's your point then i simply disagree.

You also mentioned this "He would hire people with that skill set and knowledge." . Thats pretty much what im doing, my plan is to acquire the knowledge i need to generate free traffic then put together a team of people who do the work to generate this free traffic while i focus on paid traffic. I mentioned this in my first post.

I didn't mean to set it and forget it. Although, that used to work long ago.

I mean whatever you're selling and the way you're pitching it is the method. You have specialized in learning that part of the biz. Most of us are happy with 10% returns. If I was making 100% I would focus all my energy on that. I wouldn't try to find alternate methods where my time earned me less profit.

Have you considered starting an ad network? You could be the middle man between webmasters and media buyers.

james2324 01-07-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ScriptWorkz (Post 20349957)
Hit me up on skype as well, might have something for you bkmny1385 rather not get into the details here.

hey man,

I'll add you on skype.

sonofsam 01-07-2015 06:03 PM

If you are so good with media buying, why not focus on selling those services instead of trying to generate adult traffic?

Not sure if you've noticed or not, but adult is dying. Of course there will always be money to be made, but you'd make a lot more in mainstream. You'd have a way easier time making money by doing media buying consultation, or campaign management in mainstream than you would trying to build up your own organic adult traffic.

the adult industry is already dominated by a few players, while mainstream is wide open with millions of niches..

If you are that good with media buying, I'll be your first customer (mainstream)

james2324 01-07-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350414)
I didn't mean to set it and forget it. Although, that used to work long ago.

I mean whatever you're selling and the way you're pitching it is the method. You have specialized in learning that part of the biz. Most of us are happy with 10% returns. If I was making 100% I would focus all my energy on that. I wouldn't try to find alternate methods where my time earned me less profit.

Have you considered starting an ad network? You could be the middle man between webmasters and media buyers.


hey man,

There are thousands of people who are promoting the same types of offers i promote.

I know several adult media buyers, some who have made more money in a month then Ive ever made in a year.

There is no secret pitching method, just go on one of the big tube sites and you can see EXACTLY how people are promoting dating offers.

Again, there is no method, its not like that at all. The people who make it in media buying either have high risk tolerance and are willing to lose a lot of money upfront or they have the patience to keep testing slowly until they find something that works.

Also, I never said i make 100% ROI on all campaigns; i said that my goal is to reach that with every campaign and that usually margins for example as low as $75-$80 cost for a $100 payout are as low as ill go. Lower then that and ill consider the campaign too risky to run and ill get back to testing.

james2324 01-07-2015 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20350426)
If you are so good with media buying, why not focus on selling those services instead of trying to generate adult traffic?

Not sure if you've noticed or not, but adult is dying. Of course there will always be money to be made, but you'd make a lot more in mainstream. You'd have a way easier time making money by doing media buying consultation, or campaign management in mainstream than you would trying to build up your own organic adult traffic.

the adult industry is already dominated by a few players, while mainstream is wide open with millions of niches..

If you are that good with media buying, I'll be your first customer (mainstream)

hey dude,

People have been saying adult is dead since i started in august 2011; i dont listen to anything like that at all.

Ive made way more money in adult then I ever did in mainstream and its been easier and more enjoyable.

Also, i have no interest at all in becoming any sort of media buying consultant or anything like that.

james2324 01-07-2015 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20350403)
Here you go I am no longer in the adult biz but did a lot of free traffic generating while I was. Some of these ways are old so not sure how well they work now.

Firstly there are so many different ways to generate free traffic and it can be very time consuming.

A few of the ways I use to use:

Forum Posting ( Apart from posting on other forums, I also had my own forum which I allowed webmasters and affliates to post thier links to so this in itself generated me free traffic)

Reddit (we all know this lol)

Link exchanges ( this can work sometimes depending on where the link is placed and if it is in the same niche as what your site is about)

Twitter accounts ( made some good traffic from this but you need to interact with your follwers so can be time consuming)

FB accounts (same as above)

Youtube accounts (again can generate good traffic... One way around the non porn with Youtube is to use "sexy videos" and send the users to a non nude but sexy site with links to the porn site you are promoting)

Pinterest and similar sites

Link dump sites (These used to be popular and some of them would send a lot of traffic)

Other adult social media sites ( There used to be a few of these about, U could make up a profile using purchased content and send the traffic to the same profile on the porn site you are promoting)

Search engines other than just Google ( kinda obvious this one lol)


These are just a few which i used in the past there are still many other ways to get free traffic some of it is crap some of it would convert ..hope this helps a few :)

thank you very much for all your suggestions.

I'll analyze everything you said and get back to you with some follow up questions.

420 01-07-2015 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350437)
hey man,

There are thousands of people who are promoting the same types of offers i promote.

I know several adult media buyers, some who have made more money in a month then Ive ever made in a year.

There is no secret pitching method, just go on one of the big tube sites and you can see EXACTLY how people are promoting dating offers.

Again, there is no method, its not like that at all. The people who make it in media buying either have high risk tolerance and are willing to lose a lot of money upfront or they have the patience to keep testing slowly until they find something that works.

Also, I never said i make 100% ROI on all campaigns; i said that my goal is to reach that with every campaign and that usually margins for example as low as $75-$80 cost for a $100 payout are as low as ill go. Lower then that and ill consider the campaign too risky to run and ill get back to testing.

You aren't giving yourself enough credit for all the effort you put in testing and finding things that work. You make it seem like all I have to do is make a catchy banner and link to adult friend finder.

Once you have figured out what's selling and how to get the most roi out of it - that's your method. In my world I would find other paid traffic sources and sell the same thing in the same way.

It sounds like you have highly successful short term campaigns. Where as I try to average for example 10% over a few weeks or months. If I dip below my goal I will tweak and retest.

I've been buying traffic since sex.com was a ppc search engine. I don't know much about buying banners on tubes though. I guess you're not paying per click there and that's why it sounds so much different.

released 01-07-2015 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350568)
You aren't giving yourself enough credit for all the effort you put in testing and finding things that work. You make it seem like all I have to do is make a catchy banner and link to adult friend finder.

Once you have figured out what's selling and how to get the most roi out of it - that's your method. In my world I would find other paid traffic sources and sell the same thing in the same way.

It sounds like you have highly successful short term campaigns. Where as I try to average for example 10% over a few weeks or months. If I dip below my goal I will retest.

I've been buying traffic since sex.com was a ppc search engine. I don't know much about buying banners on tubes though. I guess you're not paying per click there and that's why it sounds so much different.

He's just watermarking whatever vids to a dummy domain and redirecting to cams and/or dating. It's the oldest trick in the book since tubes were invented.

He just can't get enough traffic and is asking how he can scale 1K visits per day to 1 million... and the answer is no.

L-Pink 01-07-2015 09:20 PM

That's a million and a quarter a year. First thing I would do is not post about it here.

420 01-07-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by released (Post 20350572)
He's just watermarking whatever vids to a dummy domain and redirecting to cams and/or dating. It's the oldest trick in the book since tubes were invented.

He just can't get enough traffic and is asking how he can scale 1K visits per day to 1 million... and the answer is no.

Aw, I thought I was participating in my first real gfy discussion in... probably ever.

I went and read the other thread. "- Even with these limitations I still did 6 figures in profit last year with just tube traffic. If you can help me increase my tube traffic then you can make a lot of money. If you're interested then simply leave your skype or ICQ in this thread and i will contact you right away."

Pretty good, he went from 6 figures in a year to 6 figures in a month. :)

lucas 01-07-2015 11:15 PM

1. So you are doin it pay per sing-up? Or RevShare with dating?

2. You are buying and checking traffic "by source domain" or "by users country" ?

james2324 01-08-2015 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350568)
You aren't giving yourself enough credit for all the effort you put in testing and finding things that work. You make it seem like all I have to do is make a catchy banner and link to adult friend finder.

Once you have figured out what's selling and how to get the most roi out of it - that's your method. In my world I would find other paid traffic sources and sell the same thing in the same way.

It sounds like you have highly successful short term campaigns. Where as I try to average for example 10% over a few weeks or months. If I dip below my goal I will tweak and retest.

I've been buying traffic since sex.com was a ppc search engine. I don't know much about buying banners on tubes though. I guess you're not paying per click there and that's why it sounds so much different.

hey dude,

What part of my previous reply makes it seem like all someone needs to do is find a catchy banner and link to adult friend finder?

It is absolutely NOT that easy and nothing I've said in this thread made it seem it was that easy. I'm really curious was part of my post led you to say this.

james2324 01-08-2015 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by released (Post 20350572)
He's just watermarking whatever vids to a dummy domain and redirecting to cams and/or dating. It's the oldest trick in the book since tubes were invented.

He just can't get enough traffic and is asking how he can scale 1K visits per day to 1 million... and the answer is no.

hey man,

I'm confused by your post.

Yes with tube uploading all I did was simply license content + hire people to watermark the videos and then we uploaded to the big tube sites. What does that have anything to do with this thread?

And by the way, when i was actively doing tube uploading we generated a lot more then 1k visits per day.

james2324 01-08-2015 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350578)
Aw, I thought I was participating in my first real gfy discussion in... probably ever.

I went and read the other thread. "- Even with these limitations I still did 6 figures in profit last year with just tube traffic. If you can help me increase my tube traffic then you can make a lot of money. If you're interested then simply leave your skype or ICQ in this thread and i will contact you right away."

Pretty good, he went from 6 figures in a year to 6 figures in a month. :)

hey man,

I think you might have become confused due to the content of my other thread.

Yes as i stated in this other thread (https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...portunity.html ) I made 6 figures profit in 2013 with tube uploading alone in. By the way, i also made 6 figures profit with tube uploading alone in 2012.

But nowhere did I say that i went from 6 figures a year to 6 figures per month with tube uploading. Where did you get this from?

james2324 01-08-2015 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas (Post 20350627)
1. So you are doin it pay per sing-up? Or RevShare with dating?

2. You are buying and checking traffic "by source domain" or "by users country" ?

hey man,

1. ive done both

2. I dont really get what u mean by this. Are you asking if i buy traffic from specific domains or only do RON (run of network) campaigns where the only targeting selection is country?

james2324 01-08-2015 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20350576)
That's a million and a quarter a year. First thing I would do is not post about it here.

hey man,

Please open your eyes and realize that there are people making a lot of money in adult right now.

Like i said earlier in this thread i know adult affiliates who have made more in a month then ive ever made in a year.

I also know a guy who spends 2.5 million dollars a month buying adult traffic to promote penis enlargement offers.

420 01-08-2015 12:32 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350644)
hey dude,

What part of my previous reply makes it seem like all someone needs to do is find a catchy banner and link to adult friend finder?

It is absolutely NOT that easy and nothing I've said in this thread made it seem it was that easy. I'm really curious was part of my post led you to say this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350647)
hey man,

I think you might have become confused due to the content of my other thread.

Yes as i stated in this other thread (https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...portunity.html ) I made 6 figures profit in 2013 with tube uploading alone in. By the way, i also made 6 figures profit with tube uploading alone in 2012.

But nowhere did I say that i went from 6 figures a year to 6 figures per month with tube uploading. Where did you get this from?


Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350437)

There is no secret pitching method, just go on one of the big tube sites and you can see EXACTLY how people are promoting dating offers.

Right here you made it sound simple. I went on xvideos and saw lots of catchy banners. Naturally I assume link catchy banner to adult friend finder (that's dating right?) to make dating profit.

Your thread title says you made 6 figures in a month. I was joking with beaner who was fucking with you or something.

released 01-08-2015 12:34 AM

hey man... I'm just a sexy girl.

sonofsam 01-08-2015 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350649)
hey man,

Please open your eyes and realize that there are people making a lot of money in adult right now.

Like i said earlier in this thread i know adult affiliates who have made more in a month then ive ever made in a year.

I also know a guy who spends 2.5 million dollars a month buying adult traffic to promote penis enlargement offers.

2.5 million dollars per month media buying on adult?

james2324 01-08-2015 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350653)
Right here you made it sound simple. I went on xvideos and saw lots of catchy banners. Naturally I assume link catchy banner to adult friend finder (that's dating right?) to make dating profit.

Your thread title says you made 6 figures in a month. I was joking with beaner who was fucking with you or something.

Perhaps that one line in that entire reply to you could be interpreted the way you claim but I still doubt it. And certainly no one could have arrived at that conclusion if they read my entire reply to you.

Yes my thread said i made 6 figures in 1 month but nowhere on this forum have i claimed I went from 6 figures per year to 6 figures per month with tube uploading.

james2324 01-08-2015 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 20350655)
2.5 million dollars per month media buying on adult?

yes like i said be spends 2.5 million per month buying adult traffic to promote penis enlargement. However, I do not know how much he makes from that or what his ROI is.

lucas 01-08-2015 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350648)
hey man,

1. ive done both

2. I dont really get what u mean by this. Are you asking if i buy traffic from specific domains or only do RON (run of network) campaigns where the only targeting selection is country?

1, whats better? Per sign-up is faster for test?:)

2, do you buy and test traffic from for example:

tube_teens US
tube_teens DE
...
tube_teens ZE

or

domain1.com US
domain1.com DE
domain2.com US
domain2.com DE

or just

domain1.com ALL traffic (because you use language autodetect and tool like lead wrench).

---------------

When you stop the test? When it reach 50% of sale without any sale?

I can help you build TGPs, installing soft, telling you how to set-up traders, content etc. You will need to buy feeder traffic to start, but I think you know how to deal with it :)

released 01-08-2015 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350661)
yes like i said be spends 2.5 million per month buying adult traffic to promote penis enlargement. However, I do not know how much he makes from that or what his ROI is.

please stop... you and I talked for a bit before... all you "found out" is that if you watermark a URL on a video, and that video gets traffic... you get type in's to your URL.

Your URL then forwards to, my recollection, dating sites.

Listen man... ALL tube traffic converts like a monster after it gets weeded through. I have 1:50 to 1:300 on tube traffic. It obviously needs to go through the ringer and get a shit ton more traffic just to get the click... or the type in.

You have nothing to offer anyone, that's the hard truth.

420 01-08-2015 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350660)
Perhaps that one line in that entire reply to you could be interpreted the way you claim but I still doubt it. And certainly no one could have arrived at that conclusion if they read my entire reply to you.

Yes my thread said i made 6 figures in 1 month but nowhere on this forum have i claimed I went from 6 figures per year to 6 figures per month with tube uploading.

You are way too serious for this forum.

You went from making 6 figures in a year in your other thread to making that in a month in this one. Why are you adding "with tube uploading" on the end of what I said?

Markul 01-08-2015 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james2324 (Post 20350442)
People have been saying adult is dead since i started in august 2011; i dont listen to anything like that at all.

Yup, they've been saying that since I started in 2007. I think it's people who are seeing a decline in their own business and are not able to stop it, that says something like this.

james2324 01-08-2015 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20350668)
You are way too serious for this forum.

You went from making 6 figures in a year in your other thread to making that in a month in this one. Why are you adding "with tube uploading" on the end of what I said?

hey man,

In my other thread I said exactly this: "I still did 6 figures in profit last year with just tube traffic". I was still doing media buying while i was doing tube uploading; tube uploading was not my only source of money. Please remember that i started in adult with paid traffic and then started doing tube uploading.

In fact I didn't really do anything with the tube uploading except license the content; i had a team that did everything else.

I understand where the confusion might have been created but I'll make it clear again; I have never made 6 figures in a month from just tube uploading, the most i ever made with just tube uploading was around $60 000 and that was in 2012.

And yes I am very serious when it comes to mynbusiness but i don't think that's a bad thing at all. I'm not on this forum for fun, im here to grow my business.


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