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selena 03-23-2015 11:33 AM
Can you please check your mail? Thanks!

Theo 03-23-2015 07:43 PM
send me an email at [email protected] and include your vimeo link, thank you

celandina 04-03-2015 06:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20393813)
24 feb i arrive to Moscow and can shoot russian models for you
Beware of this guy!!!

Just wasted more then a month with this him. Everything was " yes I agree, of course I agree" bla bla... Then right before production the price suddenly doubled.

" You understand there is a big inflation in Russia".

What he does not know, that I also understand that Rubble dumped over 50% against the dollar, so his prices went actually down.

..... Also, all of the sudden this "experienced" adult video supplier also concluded ( weeks after he agreed ), that asking for USC 2275 compliance docs. (a copy of gov issued ID and std release form from the models) and other basics like having a microphone, was "too complicated" and that " no other customer ever required it". GFY says I :321GFY

j3rkules 04-03-2015 06:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20377041)
mcdonalds mate :)
:thumbsup

Bowie 04-03-2015 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20438172)
Beware of this guy!!!

Just wasted more then a month with this him. Everything was " yes I agree, of course I agree" bla bla... Then right before production the price suddenly doubled.

" You understand there is a big inflation in Russia".

What he does not know, that I also understand that Rubble dumped over 50% against the dollar, so his prices went actually down.

..... Also, all of the sudden this "experienced" adult video supplier also concluded ( weeks after he agreed ), that asking for USC 2275 compliance docs. (a copy of gov issued ID and std release form from the models) and other basics like having a microphone, was "too complicated" and that " no other customer ever required it". GFY says I :321GFY
Nice try :thumbsup But you have requested the cost at that time, when I was in Thailand and returned two months later with new questions, when i arrived t Moscow. I did not take an advance payment, and we made didnt make a deal, so there is no deception. And I always make an 2275 docs, so i dont know what are you talking about. ANd " no other customer ever required it" is lie, i didnt say it.

If you have no money, you should not cry here:winkwink:

MakeMeGrrrrowl 04-03-2015 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20438468)
Nice try :thumbsup But you have requested the cost at that time, when I was in Thailand and returned two months later with new questions, when i arrived t Moscow. I did not take an advance payment, and we made didnt make a deal, so there is no deception. And I always make an 2275 docs, so i dont know what are you talking about. ANd " no other customer ever required it" is lie, i didnt say it.

If you have no money, you should not cry here:winkwink:
So did you just copy the "2275" from the post above?

Do you know what that is and what the correct number is?

Bowie 04-03-2015 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl (Post 20438476)
So did you just copy the "2275" from the post above?

Do you know what that is and what the correct number is?
Yeah:) 2257

celandina 04-04-2015 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20438748)
Yeah:) 2257
I am on the road for Easter, and do not know how to cut and paste your bullshit from my iPad. But when i get back and get to my desktop , I will and expose the liar you are. And if you for one minute believe that anybody around here is such an idiot that they would send you money without a contract and without them knowing what they will be getting you are not only a crook but a really dumb one at that , 2257 typo notwithstanding :321GFY

BTW: If you say that you misunderstood ( or something) and apologise to me I will drop the issue .
BTW 2 we did make a deal and in a written e mail form , NOT from Thailand but from Moscow. Just look at your post here " I am back in Moscow" and the date we exchanged the first e mail.

Again, " I am sorry" will suffice since I have better things to do then making time for your BS.

Bowie 04-04-2015 01:56 PM
My apologies will not make you richer and not get rid of butthurt. I didnt say "no other customer ever required it" or something like this, so you are lier.

You cant cut and paste but you can make printscreen :D

celandina 04-06-2015 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20439338)
My apologies will not make you richer and not get rid of butthurt. I didnt say "no other customer ever required it" or something like this, so you are lier.

You cant cut and paste but you can make printscreen :D
Just to make sure that my fellow members here stay away from you I will make the effort, and no I do not know how to make a print screen, I am new to my iPad as I was to your "silent" camera :321GFY

Bowie 04-06-2015 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20440624)
Just to make sure that my fellow members here stay away from you I will make the effort, and no I do not know how to make a print screen, I am new to my iPad as I was to your "silent" camera :321GFY
Here all spit on some beggar. People wrote reviews above, they have worked with me. And you're just the one who asked for a discount, but he did not have enough money:upsidedow

celandina 04-07-2015 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20440971)
Here all spit on some beggar. People wrote reviews above, they have worked with me. And you're just the one who asked for a discount, but he did not have enough money:upsidedow
Back at my desk in two days... Am looking forward to expose frauds like you :321GFY

Hmmm people complimented on your talent, and so did I ... That is why I responded to your post begging for job and get a visa to get out of Russia, and I was willing to help. But talented crook is still a crook, so yes I compliment your talent even now, but talented asshole is still an asshole.

But it is interesting that my fellow members here do not post any enquiries, I guess they do not give a shit about your talent any more.... What I do not get is why you fucked the hand which tried to feed you...

marcop 04-07-2015 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20364468)
Hi guys. Where can i find job for me? Where i can find sponsors? I have talent to find models for nude videos and shoot amazing videos. My works here antonisaev com . Pls advice me.
Try tube sites--they're always looking for content.

overdose 04-07-2015 02:25 PM
all these irritating dubstep shit on videos, damn... fucking up something so good with something such bad :D anyway what do you want in adult? you could better exploit your skills in making music videos or sthing

celandina 04-08-2015 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by overdose (Post 20441932)
all these irritating dubstep shit on videos, damn... fucking up something so good with something such bad :D anyway what do you want in adult? you could better exploit your skills in making music videos or sthing
Read my posts above, he is talented ( if the reel is actually his work :() but he is a lying cheat. :321GFY:321GFY

He can make music videos with Pussy Riot from the same jail cell :thumbsup

Cash4Members 04-08-2015 08:45 AM
I like your work , models looking good ! Hope you find something :thumbsup

Bowie 04-08-2015 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20442535)
Read my posts above, he is talented ( if the reel is actually his work :() but he is a lying cheat. :321GFY:321GFY

He can make music videos with Pussy Riot from the same jail cell :thumbsup
No one listens to you. Lol. You didn't pay me money, so no cheating here. Thank you for making activity of this thread, more ppl e-mail me:thumbsup

celandina 04-11-2015 04:54 AM
OK I will bump this one more time, so those who are foolish enough to send you money had a fair warning and those who actually read this thru realize what kind of liar you are...

These as pertinent excerpts from many e mails I have exchanged with this guy:

Make you own conclusions:

Feb 15 I wrote:
Quote:
Looked at some of the vids on VIMEO by Anton. Are you the same person? If yes, then let me know
I am looking for softer lesbian/solo clips about 25 minutes in length with sub dom elements.
Feb 15 he wrote
Quote:
Yeah im same person. You can find my portfolio and contacts at xxxxxxxxx.com
Nice. I can shoot this clips for you. What's your price for this 25 minutes video?
Feb 15 I wrote not wanting to reveal all my cards regarding the costs
Quote:
You are an artist and have nice style. That is the good part.
So back to my question. What would it cost per clip and do you have the models.
Feb 16 he replied ( note it is HIM who offered the price)
Quote:
500$ fir one video with teo models. and i can make discount if you order more then one video
Feb 16 I replied
Quote:
At $ 500/ 30 min. movie, I believe we could come to arrangement and if it works out for both of us we would do multiples ( maybe 3 to 4) videos at a time 2 to 3x /year. Sometimes we would add a 3 rd model in the multiples and call it "a discount".
I would work with you ahead with creating a bit of a story ( none or just minimal dialogues... like yes, no, please, come here! strip! etc....)
I would need to see the pictures of the models before the shoot and of course for the USC 2257 I will need copies ( of ALL models) government ID to prove that they are over 18 years of age. I would be looking for "fresh" faces no excessive tattoos or artificial breasts implants.
Also I need to be sure that this is an exclusive shoot for us. I would hold the copyright.
My plan is to start this later this Spring so maybe you can outline for me some options also have you ever shot anything more explicit then on your site and can I see a clip of it?
Please let me know
Feb 19 he replied
Quote:
If you will order 3 or 4 clips i can make it for 450$/30min movie.
I understand you, it's ok.
Feb 19 I wrote
Quote:
Please answer my questions from my last e mail:
1) do you have a clip with some more explicit material then on your site?
2) Exclusivity ?
3) USC 2257 paperwork?
Feb 19 he replied
Quote:
1) i can show you only that videos at my website
2) sure
3) sure
Feb 22 I wrote
Quote:
OK Anton, I am now clear on everything I will be ready with everything at the end of March I will contact you again.
Feb 22 he replied
Quote:
ok
At this point for about a month as I indicated to him I left things since I had to do other business, he meanwhile relocated from Thailand back to Moscow ( as you can also determine from one of his posts earlier in this thread....

So at the end of March as I promised I did contact him again:

March 26 I wrote

Quote:
I think I am ready for you to shoot the first 30 min project for me, based on our earlier discussion. Please confirm to me that you are still interested and able to produce it. Once I get your confirmation, I will prepare a detailed proposal as how this may work between us. As I said in the onset I want to "test" one "episode" but once I know it is all working we would do 4 to 6 at a time
March 26 he replied
Quote:
Yeas im still interested.
March 27 I wrote
Quote:
OK I will prepare a proposal this weekend and forward.
March 28 I wrote ( enclosed are only the pertinent items of that e mail and where I suggested a process)
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Upon agreeing to all mutual conditions and after signing the full production agreement by both parties ( we both MUST be properly identified upon signing, so it is legitimate agreement): Then:

1) You will submit a recent photos ( or clips) of ALL models and alternates ( if any) of those to appear in the vidfeo for my approval. Once approved, then we agree on the content, Then:
2) I will forward to you 50 % of agreed to amount ( USD $ 250) for you to begin the production, you will forward to me USC 2257 materials for the models and their agreements to act in this video ( I will supply the format in English)
3) Upon completion of the project and a rough edit is done, you will make available the video to me to screen in some low resolution format over the Internet so I can have any input if need be. Once I approve the version, then,
4) I will forward to you the balance of the fee ( USD $ 250) and you will ship all the materials to me ( including the raw footage). ( If it will require shipping using a hard drive the drive and shipping will be at my cost).
March 30 he replied
Quote:
All right, I agree
March 30 I wrote ( since until this moment I had no idea what and how will the stuff to be shot a reasonable request I think)
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WE have agreed already that you will shoot in HD. Please advise me what camera you will be using and onto what media you will be storing the footage.
March 30 he replied
Quote:
i use blackmagic 2k camera
March 31 I wrote ( trying to determine the basic technical requirements since he claims he is professional)
Quote:
OK Thanks for the info and the picture. I know the camera gives an excellent video, but has some issues.
1) Color correct all the raw footage ( using the software supplied ?)
2) Record sound ( even if it is mostly just model's breathing,( making "love sounds") and very little dialogue. The review says that the sound is not that good??
3) What and how would be the best way to ship the material to me? So if need be I can transfer it to Final Cut Pro. ( I have asked this before)
Also, any other technical suggestions. I have asked several times please do not send me "one or two word" answers, that does not give me a lot of confidence. I need to create technical specifications for you and your equipment,

Please answer me in as much detail as you can.
April 2 he answered
Quote:
Sorry. I think you are little more demanding then usual customers. I always make good videos with good quality and had no problems.
I think until the deal took place i want to tell you something. since our first conversation was some time and in our country there was inflation so my prices have risen. I can shoot one video for 900$. For this price i will send raw footages for you by post, write detailed answers, record with good microphone, make some corrections if need and others.
Let me know if you are still interested.
April 2 I wrote
Quote:
No I am not, I am not that stupid, I also know that rubble de-valuated by 50 %, so it is probably all even. But that is not important. What is important is: If you want to make deals, stick to them. I do not do business like that,.........
and there you have it.

celandina 04-11-2015 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20403198)
ok guys now im in Moscow and can shoot russian models for you
Full of shit as usual :321GFY

If you want them silent, without 2257 paperwork, shot in the kitchen doubling his price once you are ready to go he is your man, just read the string above .

JustDaveXxx 04-11-2015 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20445705)
Full of shit as usual :321GFY

If you want them silent, without 2257 paperwork, shot in the kitchen doubling his price once you are ready to go he is your man, just read the string above .
Interesting post and thread.


celandina question for you; Did you see any porn work of any gg action? Bg action? With the posted emails that you posted I read that all of his work is what is on his site. Did he forward you any porn links?


celendina you also agreed to pay in US dollars correct? What does the performance of the Ruble have anything with the value of the US dollar?



I do know one thing for sure: If You hire Jay Allan (Who is the authority on this type of content) I would assume you would be asking for links to his work. Pics, vids, etc.


Every time I deal with clients, I get asked for links to my work. This is always expected. I then link them to the websites that I shot the content for and I sometimes find the links on tube sites. Ether way the client knows that I can actually shoot what he's asking me to shoot. I don't send them links to my music video work. lol



I shoot music videos with other real talented music video shooters. One thing I learned is that all of these guys think they can shoot porn, but the real hard facts is that none of them can.


Not saying that they cannot learn how. But to be on a music video set one day and to try and control a porn set the next without ever worked on a porn set is a catastrophe waiting to happen. Every single good porn director, shooter, photog has worked for another good porn director. They spent a lot of time in assisting an experienced porn shooter. Learning what to do and not to do. Shit!! I held C-light for my buddy Craven for two years. Learned 1st hand what to do and not do.


If Bowie can actually deliver porn in the quality that he shoots his music videos and he delivers without issues to a few people I know, I would lobe to do business with him.


Lets see what happens. Good luck to all involved.


Just Dave

celandina 04-12-2015 08:10 AM
I will answer your questions in quotes within quotes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20445813)
Interesting post and thread.


celandina question for you; Did you see any porn work of any gg action? Bg action? With the posted emails that you posted I read that all of his work is what is on his site. Did he forward you any porn links?

Quote:
No, he always just talked about "clients" but never delivered. I just took his word because over $ 500 it was NOT a huge deal. On a good day I spend that much on a good bottle of Bordeaux. :thumbsup Also I really thought the guy needs help to get out of "Dodge" and I really wanted talented supplier. I did like his stuff that is why I was going to take a bit of risk even if he was a novice to adult GG business, but if the idiot delivered I had actually had my team working on a long term EU visa for him..

celendina you also agreed to pay in US dollars correct? What does the performance of the Ruble have anything with the value of the US dollar?
Quote:
NOTHING, it is quite opposite ( the numbers are just for illustration). If on the day 1 you can buy with 100 dollars lets say 1,000 Rubbles and on day 10 the Rubble falls by 50 % then for the same 100 dollars you can buy 2,000 Rubbles. Ergo, if a model costs 500 Rubbles on day 1 or 50 dollars equivalent, now the same model would only cost you 25 dollars and ONLY if there was 50% inflation in the 10 days ( which is a nonsense) the model would costs the same as on day 1. Economics 101 , :2 cents:


I do know one thing for sure: If You hire Jay Allan (Who is the authority on this type of content) I would assume you would be asking for links to his work. Pics, vids, etc.

Quote:
who is Jay Allan ?
Every time I deal with clients, I get asked for links to my work. This is always expected. I then link them to the websites that I shot the content for and I sometimes find the links on tube sites. Ether way the client knows that I can actually shoot what he's asking me to shoot. I don't send them links to my music video work. lol
Quote:
I have an unique soft core real movie lesbian web site, so regardless if it is a muisc video, some youtube "experiment" or adult shoot, I am looking for certain quality ( lighting, shooting, interesting location, decent sound and NO hacks with plastic tits and tattoos up the ying yang

I shoot music videos with other real talented music video shooters. One thing I learned is that all of these guys think they can shoot porn, but the real hard facts is that none of them can.

Quote:
i do not want porn I want erotic or softcore porn...



Not saying that they cannot learn how. But to be on a music video set one day and to try and control a porn set the next without ever worked on a porn set is a catastrophe waiting to happen. Every single good porn director, shooter, photog has worked for another good porn director. They spent a lot of time in assisting an experienced porn shooter. Learning what to do and not to do. Shit!! I held C-light for my buddy Craven for two years. Learned 1st hand what to do and not do.

Quote:
have no clue who any of these are, but generically speaking there are very few "porn artists" out there, most only know how to shoot the amateur looking crap...I call call it " tourist POV with tits" that is why I went for this schmuck

If Bowie can actually deliver porn in the quality that he shoots his music videos and he delivers without issues to a few people I know, I would lobe to do business with him.

Quote:
Good luck with him maybe he wises up but if not don't tell me I did not warn you. Not that he is only sucking ( oh the inflation) but also blowing ( oh you
are too demanding)
Lets see what happens. Good luck to all involved.

Quote:
I do not need luck, I will just shoot the shit myself as I did for the last 20 years and will keep looking for some young and talented guy or a woman... Who wants to learn....
C.....
Just Dave

JayAllan 04-12-2015 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 20445813)
Interesting post and thread.




I do know one thing for sure: If You hire Jay Allan (Who is the authority on this type of content) I would assume you would be asking for links to his work. Pics, vids, etc.


Just Dave
Thanks for the mention Dave! :thumbsup

Feng-PD 04-12-2015 04:30 PM
Anton made a clip for me without any problems. He delivered a kick ass video for the price we agree'd on.

dumpert.nl - Meisjes stoeien naakt op een strand in Thailand.
(its in dutch but make sure you turn on NSFW)

Cheers :)

Bowie 04-13-2015 07:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20445705)
Full of shit as usual :321GFY

If you want them silent, without 2257 paperwork, shot in the kitchen doubling his price once you are ready to go he is your man, just read the string above .

Now ppl write me a lot. It seems that the comments of people who have worked with me, play a more important role than a review of the one who did not work with me. Thank you for that increases the activity of my thread :thumbsup

celandina 04-13-2015 08:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20447178)
Now ppl write me a lot. It seems that the comments of people who have worked with me, play a more important role than a review of the one who did not work with me. Thank you for that increases the activity of my thread :thumbsup
Hey, OK with me :thumbsup, maybe you choose those you try to fuck, or in Thailand there was NO inflation and everybody in any schoolyard in Pattaya was over 18 :thumbsup :321GFY

celandina 04-13-2015 08:10 AM
Sorry double post.

celandina 04-13-2015 08:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fengwu83 (Post 20446656)
Anton made a clip for me without any problems. He delivered a kick ass video for the price we agree'd on.

dumpert.nl - Meisjes stoeien naakt op een strand in Thailand.
(its in dutch but make sure you turn on NSFW)

Cheers :)

Nothing there Feng. Maybe some other Asian/ Dutch trick?

FYI: I am NOT censoring content.Your site shows just fine....all these $ 9,95 non exclusive clips

Which is the Anton's clip ???

Bowie 04-13-2015 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20447201)
Hey, OK with me :thumbsup, maybe you choose those you try to fuck, or in Thailand there was NO inflation and everybody in any schoolyard in Pattaya was over 18 :thumbsup :321GFY
https://instagram.com/p/zcGVDPOmOI/ 23 feb im in Thailand :winkwink: So you are lier.

And i didnt find "no other customer ever required it" in our mails, so you lie again.

:thumbsup

celandina 04-14-2015 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20447326)
https://instagram.com/p/zcGVDPOmOI/ 23 feb im in Thailand :winkwink: So you are lier.

And i didnt find "no other customer ever required it" in our mails, so you lie again.

:thumbsup
Anton, you need to read my string again, I know that in February you were in Thailand....BUT my e mail string above refers to March 26 and your reply to agreeing to the deal was also March 26 and you were in Moscow for weeks by then...but again you are missing my point.

My point was NOT about where you were, or the inflation, USC 2257 and all of the other crap, but about ME wasting my time, committing release dates on my site, turning down other potential suppliers because of your talent and in process look like a fool with my management where I have promoted you as the next "whizz kid" who can replace me.. Etc. Etc....because I want to retire.

....but instead, you are trying NOT to make peace ( I have offered to you to just say sorry because you misunderstood), NO, you want to stick it up your own ass more and more.

What a shame that talented guy like you pisses in his own boots. :2 cents: for most of the folks here you are too artsy to find a steady job, but with me you had a shot, but unless you look at your own errors and admit to it to me, you are just going to be another failure.

Grow up be a man and admit your errors.:error

NatalieK 04-14-2015 02:47 PM
Do you do all your own editing? I love the previews, the artwork on your site. I would like this kind of preview effect on my work, music, colours, editing. If you do your own editing, what software do use please?
All the best, good luck.

Bowie 04-14-2015 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20448290)
Grow up be a man and admit your errors.:error
When a poor man points out my mistakes, I'm smiling:) and throw him a coin in a carton box.

celandina 04-15-2015 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowie (Post 20448730)
When a poor man points out my mistakes, I'm smiling:) and throw him a coin in a carton box.
That should be in tin can assehole :321GFY

....but anyway, I will wait and no longer bump this thread, until somebody else shows up here somewhere and say how you fucked him, including the Dutchman who was getting a fucked already and who still does NOt know you sending him stolen stock footage edited quickly enough for him not to notice....

.... Once a fraud, always a fraud, and please do not " throw any coins into a carton box " where you likely live, shit and eat.....:321GFY

Bowie 04-15-2015 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by celandina (Post 20449276)
including the Dutchman who was getting a fucked already and who still does NOt know you sending him stolen stock footage edited quickly enough for him not to notice....
What? Led evidence that I used something stolen, and that you have no proof-again. You see, the truth is on my side, so cling like a cockroach for wall toilet during flushing.


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