Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20376416)

crockett, you just posted an estimate.

The REALITY of the budget in Wisconsin is that it was deeply in debt every year (under your beloved Democrats).
And by cutting the taxes that deficit budget became a surplus.
You know, businesses were able to hire more people, broader tax base, more revenue, etc., etc.

And I SHOWED you how you LIED. The budget has been in the black the last few years after a long time of deficits every year.

Why don't you address THAT?
Why did the Dems roll up all that debt? Their high taxes didn't help one bit.

Just like it didn't help in Detroit or Chicago.

Dude...taking people's money and giving it to bureaucrats is NEVER a good idea.

Is Scott Walker a piece of shit? Yep. No argument there.
But YOU want to raise taxes and give him MORE money??? WTF?!?!?!

Did he lower taxes because he "cares" about people? No, just like the Democrats...he does the things he does in office because he is helping his cronies and consolidating his own power.

Anything "good" that ever happens for people under the 2-party system is pretty much just a side-effect.
The REAL objective is making the ruling class (politicians) and their cronies richer and more powerful.

The difference between you and I on these kinds of issues is that you "believe".
I don't.

It would be the same thing if you really, really believed that pro wrestling was real.

You can't seem to understand that the two parties (just like two pro wrestling "opponents") are "dancing" together to achieve their goals.

I'll say it again...stop playing party politics and wake up and smell the coffee.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20377105)

Robbie.. That is the state fucking govt.. It's not a lie, unless you are saying the state is fucking lying. Jesus dude put down the fucking crack pipe. If they had a billion dollar surplus they wouldn't be cutting 300 million from the school's budget.

Seriously use your brain for two fucking seconds.. :Oh crap

The last link on the budget was posted on Jan 23rd.. That's less than 10 days ago.. There is no surprise billion dollars that you are creaming your pants over.. He claimed at the start of the year there would be a surplus but it didn't happen.. He was "WRONG".

The links you posted were from January 2014 This is January 2015 His billion dollar excess "DID NOT" happen.. They collected much "LESS" than he projected after his tax cuts..

Why is it so hard to get that through your head? Should I now call you a liar as you keep trying to call me?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20377105)

Robbie.. That is the state fucking govt.. It's not a lie, unless you are saying the state is fucking lying. Jesus dude put down the fucking crack pipe. If they had a billion dollar surplus they wouldn't be cutting 300 million from the school's budget.

Seriously use your brain for two fucking seconds.. :Oh crap

The last link on the budget was posted on Jan 23rd.. That's less than 10 days ago.. There is no surprise billion dollars that you are creaming your pants over.. He claimed at the start of the year there would be a surplus but it didn't happen.. He was "WRONG".

The links you posted were from January 2014 This is January 2015 His billion dollar excess "DID NOT" happen.. They collected much "LESS" than he projected after his tax cuts..

Why is it so hard to get that through your head? Should I now call you a liar as you keep trying to call me?

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20377220)

Let him stick up for his party.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20377270)

crockett, I'm only telling you what has been known for a few years now.
Since Walker has been governor there has been a surplus. The DEFICITS that the previous governors were running (your "team") were reversed.

The report you are babbling about is an ESTIMATE. It hasn't happened yet.
I'm talking about what HAS happened.

The title of your thread is "Scott Walkers tax cut a bust for Wisconsin".
That is a lie.

The state has had it's first years of budget surpluses.

The DEFICITS happened under high taxes from Democrat leaders.

That's easy for you to see. But you won't.

As for bronco67...man, you are a weak troll. You aren't even trying to discuss the issue. You're just trying to label me because you yourself are labeled.
Give it a rest. It won't work. I KNOW who I am and what I believe.

YOU on the other hand belong to the Democrat Party. The ones who support drug laws. The ones who support "Obscenity" laws. The ones (just like the Republicans) who only want to control people such as yourself.

I laugh at your pitiful attempts at trolling. Simply pathetic.

At least crockett argues his points. You don't even try. :(

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20377749)

crockett...this is foolish.

Here are the FACTS.

Wisconsin was known for decades as a "high tax" state. The state had deficits.
All under DEMOCRAT rule.

Walker lowered taxes on hard working people. The yearly deficits went away as more people went to work and the tax base broadened.

Is Walker a piece of shit? HELL YES.
Did Walker really do anything to "help" people intentionally. HELL NO.

He should be "one and done" as they all should be. And forced to go back into the economy that he was in charge of and find work himself.

He is a Republican. Which makes him nothing more than a part of the 2 party system which is responsible for EVERYTHING that has happened in our country.

Now...what is your grand scheme?

Let's take a look: You hate Walker. You claim he makes stupid mistakes and can't understand math. We both know he probably bows down to the religious nuts.

Your solution: Raise taxes and give this man even MORE money taken from hard working people for him to funnel to his cronies???????????

WTF crockett? Why on Earth would you want to give a guy that you hate...more money?
And why on Earth wouldn't you want hard working families to be able to keep THEIR money to spend as they choose (freedom)????

I honestly can't comprehend why you espouse taking people's money and giving it to crooks at every turn. The govt. is bringing in RECORD revenues. More money than ever before in history (or the history of any govt.).
Don't you think they need to curb their spending instead of TAKING more from hard working people?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20381108)

The only foolish thing is how you always try to dodge the fact that you are proven wrong by trying to change the subject.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20376159)

I didn't really know the numbers...but I just looked them up.

If these numbers are true...then the OP original post is a complete fucking fabrication (not much surprise there):

Anybody want to look at Wisconsin's debt? ... Bueller? ... Bueller? « Watchdog.org

"After fiscal year 2013, the state’s real deficit, based on Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, is $1.7 billion. That’s down from the $2.9 billion when Gov. Scott Walker took office and is the lowest since 2003. The better-than-expected state revenue, some $760 million that materialized at the end of the past fiscal year, has played a big part in lowering that debt load."
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And here's another one:
Despite $1 billion surplus, group says Scott Walker raising state deficit while borrowing is at record high | PolitiFact Wisconsin

"Walker proposed the cuts after the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau in mid-January 2014 projected that the state will see, mostly as a result of higher-than-expected tax collections, a $977 million surplus by the time the current two-year budget cycle ends in June 2015.

So, how is it that there is talk of a deficit?

When we asked We Are Wisconsin for evidence to back its claim, the group said it was using "deficit" as shorthand for "structural deficit."

But the two are different things.

The structural deficit isn’t a measure of any deficit of funds in the current state budget. Rather, as calculated by the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the structural deficit is a rough estimate of how tax and spending commitments will line up during the next budget period -- in this case, for 2015-’17."
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So it looks like this is more lies and exaggeration by you-know-who to further his team's "side".

Reality Check: Walker is out for himself and his cronies, just like every politician playing the game at that level is. So are all the Democrats. Why the fuck the OP can't just open his eyes and SEE is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20377270)

crockett, I'm only telling you what has been known for a few years now.
Since Walker has been governor there has been a surplus. The DEFICITS that the previous governors were running (your "team") were reversed.

The report you are babbling about is an ESTIMATE. It hasn't happened yet.
I'm talking about what HAS happened.

The title of your thread is "Scott Walkers tax cut a bust for Wisconsin".
That is a lie.

The state has had it's first years of budget surpluses.

The DEFICITS happened under high taxes from Democrat leaders.

That's easy for you to see. But you won't.

As for bronco67...man, you are a weak troll. You aren't even trying to discuss the issue. You're just trying to label me because you yourself are labeled.
Give it a rest. It won't work. I KNOW who I am and what I believe.

YOU on the other hand belong to the Democrat Party. The ones who support drug laws. The ones who support "Obscenity" laws. The ones (just like the Republicans) who only want to control people such as yourself.

I laugh at your pitiful attempts at trolling. Simply pathetic.

At least crockett argues his points. You don't even try. :(

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20534309)

Look dude. You're a republican. If calling things as they are is trolling, then I'm a troll I guess.

I wish no ill will towards you and your Republican ideology. Enjoy it.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20375083)

Speaking of.... Wasn't this Minte's guy? Whatever happened to Minte?