Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387675)

You are kidding right.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I know you like to troll, so this is a joke right?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387599)

Oh, so you agree with me then that they have effectively done nothing..

Let's start at the beginning..

First thing they do, is come into their new found power and try to push an anti abortion bill. A bill that 75% of the country would be against. In fact they couldn't even get their bill past the woman in their own party so it died before even being brought up to vote.. Fail.

Now the Republicans have the opportunity to show that they want to lead and work on behalf of the entire country. Yet their opening shot was just like usual narrow minded political games, meant to appease their extreme right wing religious nuts by regulating woman's bodies..

Next they move on to the Keystone pipe line. That big black bad guy in the oval office, told them from the start he will veto any bill that tries to pass the Keystone pipeline.

This gave Republicans 3 choices..

1) Work with Obama to put together something he could support. Failed..

2) Work with Democrats and put together a bill that has a veto proof majority. Once again Failed..

3) Ignore working on a pipe line deal which once again 75% of America does not want and instead show actual leadership skills to do something positive for America. Then go back and try to work with Obama & Democrats to pass a Keystone bill showing they are willing to give & take.. Again Fail..

Simply put Republicans have shown us, that they can not lead and will continue to push legislation that only benefits a very narrow segment of their base. The worst part is they are so arrogant that they pretend to be outraged when it doesn't work..

Next we will see a topic from Venzilla whining about Obama vetoing the Keystone pipeline bill and you guys will circle jerk over it when Obama does exactly what he said he would do..

Meaning Republicans have accomplished absolutely nothing during their first 30 days other than show America how arrogant they are.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387679)

I don't troll jack shit, I have the nutsack to understand a topic and make an opinion on it that's usually not the conventional wisdom that gets fed to people such as yourself. that's why you mistakenly think it's trolling.




If you can't grasp the FACT stated, then prove it wrong. this one would be very super easy for you to prove wrong.

but you can't, because it is a fact. that's why you decided to go with the trolling angle.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20387336)

In high school my "Don't switch dick's in the middle of a screw, vote for Nixon in '72" t-shirt caused endless friction in our family and pretty much ended their offer to pay for my college.




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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387699)

~80 republican sponsored bills already introduced into the 114th congress while only ~25 democratic sponsored bills have been introduced

http://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/4f/c2...-1-graphic.png

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387290)

But they promised to do away with it. They even claimed their winning both the house and senate majority was proof that Americans voted to do away with ACA. Are you saying they were lying this whole time?

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387883)

How many of those have been passed? How many have been signed into law? Care to name a single one? :1orglaugh


You can try to cherry coat it all you want, but the "facts" are they have not passed a single bill that has any chance of being signed into law. They have accomplished nothing but play political games.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20387883)

They have accomplished nothing but play political games.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20387887)

I've always said that Obamacare and Romneycare are the same thing. People uninterested in real social change tend to end any critique of the Obama administration by asking whether Romney would have been better, like there are no other options.

ACA is egregious corporate welfare and most Democrats and Republicans in 2015 serve their corporate sponsors.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387949)

I agree that democrats have done nothing in the 114th congress other than obstruct progress

Democrats filibuster DHS spending bill, block GOP on amnesty debate.
Democrats filibuster DHS spending bill, block GOP on amnesty debate - Washington Times


filibuster the DHS budget bill 3x in a row? all while BO complains:

The way the filibuster is used ?almost ensures greater gridlock and less clarity in terms of the positions of the parties. There?s nothing in the Constitution that requires it,? Obama said in the interview published Monday



Read more: Barack Obama: Get rid of routine use of legislative filibuster - POLITICO

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388024)

50 people wanking about partisanship when they should be discussing solutions to actual societal issues.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20387699)

~80 republican sponsored bills already introduced into the 114th congress while only ~25 democratic sponsored bills have been introduced

http://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/4f/c2...-1-graphic.png

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388175)

not sure when and where you went to school, but it was weak in maths ...

If you add up the numbers from your above graph, you get :

Republicans : 74 ( you say ~80 )
Democrats : 56 ( you say ~25 )

Curious on your method to round up figures .... :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388157)

Democrats are the minority, you claimed in the past, that the minorities job was to obstruct. Is that now different? Are you wearing flip flops or something or do you just make stuff up to support your team?

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388175)

not sure when and where you went to school, but it was weak in maths ...

If you add up the numbers from your above graph, you get :

Republicans : 74 ( you say ~80 )
Democrats : 56 ( you say ~25 )

Curious on your method to round up figures .... :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388182)

here, try and learn something for once instead of just your usual mean-spirited drive-by dickhead shit



miserable dumbfuck.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388192)

FACT : you are so dumb .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just a glance at your graph and I saw that you were out completely .

So your ~ goes like this :

for democrats , ~ equals minus 53 %
for republicans, ~ equals plus 10 %

That gives a gap of 63 % ...

gotta love the educational system... or is it all the shit drugs your brain marinated in ?

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388280)

again, for the dumbfuck that can't read good:

"whereas ~ is usually used to indicate a larger, possibly significant, degree of error."

the fact you are trying to assail the US education system based on my gfy post where a ~ confused you is fucking hilarious though.

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20388306)

I never mentioned US education system ... but you just did.

I just mentionned ~ education which could be US as well as China, taking in consideration the " significant, degree of error." :1orglaugh

So, your '"significant, degree of error." fluctuated widely ( + 53% to - 10% ) , depending on the political party .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What makes you the most stupid poster in this thread if not in ~ the whole board, is your name calling when showed wrong and your persistence in spining the unspinnable ...

Have other things to do ... you win , you are the ~ most intelligent dumbfuck here .... :1orglaugh:pimp:)

Now go lube yourself for the next anal fuck...

PS: keep away from the drugs ... oups, I forgot, that is too late :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388153)

I would have preferred a single payer solution, that was the best option. Obamacare is a shit compromise which Democrats did in order to appease Republicans. The original plan was a single payer plan and Obama caved to Republicans by trying to compromise and get them on board and we ended up with what we have now.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388159)

You mean like trying ban abortions? Which was the first bill Republicans brought forward after they were elected..

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20388344)

Does it really matter who has sponsored more bills? What matters is that quality bills gets sponsored that can pass the house and senate and get signed by the president and actually do good for the country.

It is a quality over quantity thing.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20388350)

but quantity does matter. [In]effective congress is gauged by how many bills they pass.

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20388355)

Bills = Laws

Don't we have ENOUGH laws already? I'd like to see them all go back home (like our founding fathers intended) and work a real job.
I personally would like to see LESS laws.

Congress should only be convened to pass a budget, necessary legislation, and in times of emergency.

All of this bullshit of passing bill after bill is just attempts to funnel money to their cronies and/or to get face time on cable news networks so they can get re-elected over and over and over.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388341)

I would have preferred single payer as well. Either single payer or free market would have been better than the corporate welfare we got.

As not a single Republican voted for ACA, it is nonsense to say that they are responsible for Democrats not giving us what we wanted.

If you keep voting for people who don't care what you want, you will have the government you deserve.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20388426)

Have you found a doctor yet who is willing to accept your cash payments? Just wondering.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20388458)

What are you talking about? Almost all doctors accept cash patients.

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20388575)

Didn't you once say that your regular doctor quit and that you did not know how to find a new doctor in LA?

I asked you how you plan to pay for your doctor visits, and you said "cash". So then I gave you a link that shows the contact information for available doctors in LA.

So now I am wondering if you ever were able to find a doctor that accepts your method of payment.

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20388153)

I would have preferred a single payer solution, that was the best option. Obamacare is a shit compromise which Democrats did in order to appease Republicans. The original plan was a single payer plan and Obama caved to Republicans by trying to compromise and get them on board and we ended up with what we have now.

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20389090)

While I appreciated the link, there is no need to make it personal. Yes, ACA has sucked for me, but the only interesting and useful discussion is a general one.

You do know that "cash patient" is just medical admin jargon for someone who pays directly, instead of using insurance, right? Nobody is walking into doctors' offices and pulling greenbacks out of a briefcase.