is that a 10ml bottle of cyp or are we talking 1ml?

1ml in my country is around 1$ we dont have cyp we have enanthate...

Nothing has changed Tony.

As an employer, I could give a rat's ass if a guy walks to work, takes the bus, arrives in a limousine, or crawls in.

What on Earth does that have to do with anything?

The salary shouldn't be based on how "hard" they work, or what their transportation situation is (hell, the guy was lucky they GAVE him a job knowing that he might not be dependable to get to work). Most people aren't digging freakin' ditches in the hot sun. They are working in air conditioned work environments. And the majority of them are "working for the weekend".

No Tony, walking to work doesn't mean jack shit.
What gets you a RAISE at work is going in and being VALUABLE above and beyond the current shit grunt work that a person may be doing.

Taking classes after work to educate yourself, being THE guy at work who doesn't fuck off half the day, etc.

THAT is called motivation. Walking 5 miles uphill both ways to work doesn't make you worthy of making more money. It just means that you don't have the intelligence to work your way up the ladder and buy a car.

yes 10ml, 200mg per

Do you seriously not understand the difference between universal healthcare, where everyone gets access to the same socialized thing, and people being forced to buy ...

Actually, remind me what you do in this industry? Besides trolling a thread like this by pretending to not understand the simplest things.

I know your dad made lots of money from insurance, but I have no idea what you do.

What are you thinking of as preventative healthcare?

If you mean people who couldn't afford a doctor visit at all, there was already Medi-Cal and similar.

If you mean people making $30 k to $60 k pet year, average Americans, then coming up with $50 to $150 for a doctor visit is totally within their means.

Take the $5 k to $15 k a family would spend yearly on insurance and spend it on better food and a gym membership and everyone wins with real preventative care.

My father didn't make a lots of money. He worked for an insurance company. Disagreeing with you trolling? I didn't get personal or nasty with you. My wife and have had bbw sites over 14 years.

I know ive said this before but Im done with political arguments. It gets too personal and its not worth it when it means nothing in the end. I wish everyone a good night.

well 20$/10ml was surprisingly cheap for the USA even when its with health insurance...it was only 2x more expensive than in my country I guess that was a fair price...

erythromicin on the other hand is only 2$ in my country...your starting price before obamacare was 20$ this is a rip off before as well...220$ for it is medical terrorism :1orglaugh


man you guys have a cruel and evil government :1orglaugh

Sure let's change the mandate to a requirement to eat healthy and go to the gym

Obviously I don't think that should be mandated.

I'm just saying that is what I think of as preventative care.

What do you think of as preventative care? You mention it in the context of ACA, but I assume insurance doesn't generally cover good groceries or gym memberships.

if the government is going to get into the business of healthcare they need to regulate how much can be charged for what services otherwise, it just doesn't work when the insurance companies can just bump up prices for everyone when changes happen that they don't like.

One step at a time, I'm sure that since the mandate hasn't caused an outright rebellion (as it should have) with the citizenry, the liberals in government have probably already floated that idea amongst themselves, by their philosophy it's the next logical step :thumbsup

REGULATE EVERYTHING :helpme

All I know is my insurance premium has more than doubled over the last 3 yrs for less coverage. I am paying over $1200/mth for a family of 4 not to mention went from a $500 deductible to $5000. I have bad knees but now have to pay for most of it out of pocket because of the deductible.

I am sure it helped some people that could not get coverage from existing conditions OR were not paying for insurance in the first place but I feel overall the people who were paying and carried coverage on a family it hurt more than it ever helped. With more and more people being allowed to come over, I am sure it is only going to get worse as more people get it subsidized. Someone has to pay for the people who cannot afford it or unwilling to pay for it.

That is what Obama is about, helping the poor not the majority. Got get those votes somehow.

Nope.

You got Private Industry'ed.

We got "Middle Manned" (the Insurance Companies)

That's why a lot of Democrat Party economic policies are designed to increase the amount of "poor" (by U.S. definitions) people.
It increases their voter base.

There were already programs in place to help the poor. ACA is about robbing the middle class to make wealthy insurance companies and Big Pharma richer. And, as Robbie pointed out, to expand the voter base of people forced into being dependent on welfare.