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CaptainHowdy 03-18-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20421592)
You're a salesman Bako. That's all you are. You don't produce anything on your own. You are not a webmaster. You come out with a new product to pedal about every year or so don't you? You probably have about half the customers you might have if you had the good sense to keep your mouth shut.

But you know who I am don't you Bako? The only way you know anything about me is from my ProAdult days. Isn't that right? We met at the Diplomat shows back in the nineties. You remember that I was one of the top webmasters they had back then don't you? How are all of our Armenian friends doing these days? You wouldn't happen to know what happened to all that cash they stole from me and the other ProAdult webmasters would you? For me it's somewhere in the neighborhood of $30,000+. It's ok if you don't, the statute of limitations has run out on that little scam. You used to run with that crowd so I thought I would ask.

You also know I'm 6' 4" tall right at 250 lbs so I doubt I have much to worry about from the likes of you. I'm sure we'll meet someday. If I remember correctly you're about 5'2" or so. Face to face, you'll probably come up to my zipper. I'll be sure to put a lock on it.

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

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candyflip 03-18-2015 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20421592)

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

ruff 03-18-2015 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20421672)
Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

A bullshit excuse that was proven to be false? By who? I've been sending traffic to his sites and have been getting paid by CCBill for sales. So you are accusing Mr. Porn Nerd of cheating then based on exactly what now?

The Porn Nerd 03-18-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20421672)
Proof was posted and backed up. He gave some bullshit excuse and that excuse was proven to be false.

Proof has been provided, you just choose to ignore it. For the past 8 months or so, he's been cheating anyone sending traffic to his sites.

That wrong file was uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded, over-written, deleted....on and on until I discovered the problem. It was NOT up there constantly. Now the file is completely gone and I have actually fired 5 of my employees. Not over this per se but because things overall have gotten a little sloppy.

I will apologize one last time then not comment anymore because it was an honest mistake and there's nothing I can do about it now except make amends to any affiliate who feels slighted.

BTW: All this is over a site that gets 500 hits a day. Barely any sales whatsoever come from that site, it is simply a central 'hub' to give the Network some shape. Also, surfer behavior does not mean people click that link, by-passing the site they are already on. So any actual overwrites were so tiny I doubt there was any damage to affiliates at all.

BUT if ANY affiliate wants to go over their account, traffic, sales etc contact me via ICQ or email and you will be compensated immediately that day by PayPal.

Honest mistakes do happen people. I am a one-man show not a 'Bro' or a baller or Chris Mallick. ICQ in sig for affiliates to contact me.

newB 03-18-2015 10:52 AM

I did not intend for this to become a witch-hunt. I realize now I should have contacted him privately and given him the chance to fix the issue and failing that brought the issue here. In my defense, though, this was a bit of a hot-button topic for me provided our past history, and I was kind of incensed at the time.

As I said above, I have been in implausible scenarios that were not at all what they appeared, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Intentional or not, I think he knows he's burned through his second chances and he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny from here on out.

Ruff - I assume you're the same Ruff whose program he bought, meaning you aren't all that impartial. Even if it was an honest mistake that doesn't change the fact that the mechanism was in place to shaft referring affiliates - perhaps unknowingly, but there nonetheless. Trying to make this out to be some sort of smear campaign is disingenuous.

Mr. Nerd - I see now that I should have messaged you about this privately and allowed you to rectify the situation without it becoming such a public spectacle. The good news is that if you're too busy, there are now lots of people who will be watching it for you. :1orglaugh Sorry, I thought that was funny.

Sending you a PM with an idea that might help your case (or it might bury you) after I send this.

The Porn Nerd 03-18-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by newB (Post 20421901)
I did not intend for this to become a witch-hunt. I realize now I should have contacted him privately and given him the chance to fix the issue and failing that brought the issue here. In my defense, though, this was a bit of a hot-button topic for me provided our past history, and I was kind of incensed at the time.

As I said above, I have been in implausible scenarios that were not at all what they appeared, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here. Intentional or not, I think he knows he's burned through his second chances and he's going to be under a lot of scrutiny from here on out.

Ruff - I assume you're the same Ruff whose program he bought, meaning you aren't all that impartial. Even if it was an honest mistake that doesn't change the fact that the mechanism was in place to shaft referring affiliates - perhaps unknowingly, but there nonetheless. Trying to make this out to be some sort of smear campaign is disingenuous.

Mr. Nerd - I see now that I should have messaged you about this privately and allowed you to rectify the situation without it becoming such a public spectacle. The good news is that if you're too busy, there are now lots of people who will be watching it for you. :1orglaugh Sorry, I thought that was funny.

Sending you a PM with an idea that might help your case (or it might bury you) after I send this.

No worries man. While a private contact is always better, I am also an emotional fellow at times so I understand. When I thanked you I meant it. I would not have noticed if you did not say something.

The thing about that site is that it's totally 100% automated. The thumbs rotate and update on a script, as does the video previews, and I have it like that so I do NOT have to check it every day. LOL In fact, I think I touch that site 3-4 times a year max (I have updates set for months in advance). That's really how I missed it being refreshed at times. If I checked that site daily I would've caught it.

Anyway, moving forward there should be no issues. Feel free to check as often as possible, I could use the traffic. :)

As for Ruff: he's a good man who also reacted right away. He now knows the full story. His former sites, the Aggressive Network, do not have that updates link, nor does my other AP Erotic Revenue.

mopek1 03-18-2015 11:56 AM

Both OP and PornNerd worked this out in a mature way.

Am I still on GFY?

L-Pink 03-18-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20421978)
Both OP and PornNerd worked this out in a mature way.

Am I still on GFY?


The OP's "calling out" certainly set a new standard in professionalism.

Struggle4Bucks 03-18-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20421714)
That wrong file was uploaded, deleted, re-uploaded, over-written, deleted....on and on until I discovered the problem. It was NOT up there constantly. Now the file is completely gone and I have actually fired 5 of my employees. Not over this per se but because things overall have gotten a little sloppy.

If the problem would have been refreshing templates then the old aff-id 2026216 would be in the links again... because that was the aff-code that was in the links right before you removed those links in september 2013 after this thread:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...erdcash-2.html

But now aff-codes were not being overwritten by: aff-id 2026216 but overwritten by: aff-id 2439259. So... doesn't it seem that this is not an old but a recent problem? (unless you changed aff-id 2026216 into aff-id 2439259 right before the links were removed in sept. 2013... but then again... what would have been the logic of that?)

It doesn't sound logic to now overwrite aff-id's after first affaire in 2013.... every program owner knows he is being watched and tested... especially after a first "affaire"... (but i don't understand why there was a set up which over-wrote aff-id's in the first place...)

Have you thought of the possibility of an employee with server acces that secretly signed up as an affiliate and put that new aff-id in the code?

Jel 03-18-2015 01:41 PM

option A: Hi, I offer a service whereby I check your program and each site within it for possible fuckups, to ensure all is correct. I charge $xx per site, with a discount for a once-monthly check per site.

option B: Attention gfy! blahblah! moreblah! ps, blahfuckingblah!!!

How come I have only ever seen option B? Obviously *some* (few, really) instances programs are going to be shady, but does anyone *really* believe this wasn't just a fuckup, and that it was intentional? Wasn't there a long-ass multi-page thread just a few months ago where affiliates were nigh on salivating with hope that a program was purposely doing something shady, rather than understanding that any medium to large network is likely to hit snags, especially with updating, whether that be tours for a paysite, or 'free' sites? Has nobody here ever came across a site/page where they had the wrong linkcode up, or were linking to a 404 page, or any one of a number of possible mistakes?

Man, does the world love a drama. No wonder there's so much shit on TV.

NatalieK 03-18-2015 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20421993)
The OP's "calling out" certainly set a new standard in professionalism.

Indeed :thumbsup

I'd certainly like my website reviewed by newB. Welcomed to skype or mail me. I can arrange a pass for you :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 03-18-2015 03:01 PM

FIDDY apologies!

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20422048)
If the problem would have been refreshing templates then the old aff-id 2026216 would be in the links again... because that was the aff-code that was in the links right before you removed those links in september 2013 after this thread:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...erdcash-2.html

But now aff-codes were not being overwritten by: aff-id 2026216 but overwritten by: aff-id 2439259. So... doesn't it seem that this is not an old but a recent problem? (unless you changed aff-id 2026216 into aff-id 2439259 right before the links were removed in sept. 2013... but then again... what would have been the logic of that?)

It doesn't sound logic to now overwrite aff-id's after first affaire in 2013.... every program owner knows he is being watched and tested... especially after a first "affaire"... (but i don't understand why there was a set up which over-wrote aff-id's in the first place...)

Have you thought of the possibility of an employee with server acces that secretly signed up as an affiliate and put that new aff-id in the code?

I had considered that but that's not what happened here. The old ID/file was deleted long ago but this aff ID you see here is the one we use exclusively for The Hun. I buy advertising on that site and submit galleries. The top 10-15 spots are all paid spots. You can go and see my galleries there now, all with that aff ID. Those galleries are hosted on my server, on the Porn Nerd Network site/folders. My designer designs the gals, uploads them with that code, etc. Whenever he did so the correct config file would be overwritten - then again when the server refreshed. So it was back-and-forth without me or him realizing this was the problem. I did not fire him because it was not really his fault and was not done intentionally. He has the correct file now so this won't happen again.

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20422067)
option A: Hi, I offer a service whereby I check your program and each site within it for possible fuckups, to ensure all is correct. I charge $xx per site, with a discount for a once-monthly check per site.

option B: Attention gfy! blahblah! moreblah! ps, blahfuckingblah!!!

How come I have only ever seen option B? Obviously *some* (few, really) instances programs are going to be shady, but does anyone *really* believe this wasn't just a fuckup, and that it was intentional? Wasn't there a long-ass multi-page thread just a few months ago where affiliates were nigh on salivating with hope that a program was purposely doing something shady, rather than understanding that any medium to large network is likely to hit snags, especially with updating, whether that be tours for a paysite, or 'free' sites? Has nobody here ever came across a site/page where they had the wrong linkcode up, or were linking to a 404 page, or any one of a number of possible mistakes?

Man, does the world love a drama. No wonder there's so much shit on TV.

True, but you have much better television in England than we do here. :D

Mediamix 03-18-2015 03:39 PM

I trust The Porn Nerd... :2 cents::thumbsup

BAKO 03-18-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20421592)
You're a salesman Bako. That's all you are. You don't produce anything on your own. You are not a webmaster. You come out with a new product to pedal about every year or so don't you? You probably have about half the customers you might have if you had the good sense to keep your mouth shut.

But you know who I am don't you Bako? The only way you know anything about me is from my ProAdult days. Isn't that right? We met at the Diplomat shows back in the nineties. You remember that I was one of the top webmasters they had back then don't you? How are all of our Armenian friends doing these days? You wouldn't happen to know what happened to all that cash they stole from me and the other ProAdult webmasters would you? For me it's somewhere in the neighborhood of $30,000+. It's ok if you don't, the statute of limitations has run out on that little scam. You used to run with that crowd so I thought I would ask.

You also know I'm 6' 4" tall right at 250 lbs so I doubt I have much to worry about from the likes of you. I'm sure we'll meet someday. If I remember correctly you're about 5'2" or so. Face to face, you'll probably come up to my zipper. I'll be sure to put a lock on it.

And by the way, don't ever call my friend Mr. Porn Nerd a cheater unless you have proof and can back it up. We understand each other now don't we?

First of all my first show was 2005 San Diego when Ynot was doing the shows. I'm 6,1 myself and I have never met you in my life. As far as what happen to your money you can go and ask the owners of proadult.com and for your Info I'am a webmaster. Now get your fact straight before you speak up old fool. I told you this once before you are confusing me with someone else you fucking asshole.

mopek1 03-18-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20421993)
The OP's "calling out" certainly set a new standard in professionalism.

I never see program owners calling out other program owners when they fuck up.

Affiliates on the other hand ... are fair game for some reason.


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