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MaDalton 03-26-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20430140)
90% of your posts are you starting an argument then bailing out. :1orglaugh

that is true - i am working on not even starting an argument

SuckOnThis 03-26-2015 12:26 PM

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woj 03-26-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20430209)

and what's wrong with that? the person on the receiving end should then get a flash in his mind: "maybe I don't have any skills? maybe I should get my shit together and acquire some skills so employers would be willing to pay me more than minimum wage?"

then 2 seconds later: "fuck that, I'll just complain... I will rally politicians to raise the minimum wage to $15 and all my problems will be solved..." :1orglaugh

:2 cents::2 cents:

crockett 03-26-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by woj (Post 20430252)
and what's wrong with that? the person on the receiving end should then get a flash in his mind: "maybe I don't have any skills? maybe I should get my shit together and acquire some skills so employers would be willing to pay me more than minimum wage?"

then 2 seconds later: "fuck that, I'll just complain... I will rally politicians to raise the minimum wage to $15 and all my problems will be solved..." :1orglaugh

:2 cents::2 cents:

You mean like nunchuck or computer hacking skills?


kane 03-26-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20430076)
One could argue it is the government's willingness to hand out these subsidies to employees as being the problem. Allows these people to never work harder to be great employees and increase their worth to their current or next employers who value their skills. Doesn't make them accountable to survive. Lets them get by doing the bare minimum, with the least responsibility.

I would argue the safety net has gotten too big, too vast, and too easy to make people complacent and lazy.

I agree. There are some people who will do the bare minimum so long as they can continue to get their welfare and live their lives.

If there was no welfare or it was very difficult to get on I would bet that wages would increase one way or another. People would either demand higher wages because they can't otherwise survive on them or there would be more unionization and through it an increase in wages.

If people have no safety net then tend to demand more and work a little harder.

RandyRandy 03-26-2015 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20430047)
No restaurant makes a 22% profit margin. Ever.

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kane 03-26-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron (Post 20430168)
You are overlooking that the poverty level is adjusted based on how many individuals are living in a household.

2015 Poverty Guidelines

It would be a different story if everyone was single without kids and could rent a room above a one car garage like Fonzi.

MaDalton is simply saying there would be less welfare if the average employee was better compensated rather than just paying them the bare minimum allowed by law.

Also many programs have different qualifiers. You might be able to be at say 133% of the poverty level and still qualify for the program

kane 03-26-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20430047)
No restaurant makes a 22% profit margin. Ever.

According to Bloomberg Taco Bell sits at about 20%. It's not 22%, but it is pretty close.

Grapesoda 03-26-2015 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20430056)
McDonalds is not far off

McDonald's Profit Margin (Quarterly) (MCD)

they could for sure afford paying their people more

Ma, mc donalds is not a restaurant...don't confuse corporate earnings with individual franchises.... completely different ball games...


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