Awww, someone a wittle angry. lol It's ok, we understand when you're a little angry you try to bite back hard.

Who has better healthcare? WHO? Almost every single hard working person I know has had their healthcare fees increased. Many companies have ditched their plans. There are less insured people today than there have been. There are more people on food stamps than before. There are more people out of work and business than ever.

I don't know what you're taking or if your anger management drugs are clouding your mind, but the USA is nothing like you claim it is right now.

It's kind of funny that you claim there is growth right now, when there isn't, and then you want to dump the Republicans in office. See, the Republicans do not have a super majority and everything they tried to push through in the House would be stalled by the Democrats in the Senate - the real ones saying "no." Then when the last election came in, the Republicans didn't quite make it to a super majority so they still can't override a veto from obama. Stalemate. Nothing gets done. No one wants the socialist's agenda because he screwed up enough the first 6 years, but they can't change anything because they don't have enough votes.

I would hope that you know all of this already, but you'll still blame all of the problems on the Republicans because the country is doing broke and terrible and then turn around and claim obama is doing a great job in his "recovery."

it's really pointless. these guys see it through obama zombie glasses. it's the biggest form of denial i've ever seen.

So do white-guilters and overly politically correct numb nuts.

Oddly enough I've seen more fake Politically correct outrage out of Fox and all those angry Republicans than anyone else..

I mean for fucks sake, Republicans have been full of fake outrage for the last 7 years.. Yet suddenly it's a thing you guys can blame liberals for..

Funny how that works..

I've got plenty of Bitcoin now. I'm a rich baller like you.

Politics is always the same. In fact, it's not very different from anything else including our industry. You talk up the good points and try to quickly dismiss the bad things. It's an art form.

We all saw this during the recent Republican debates. The candidate would be asked a question, he would answer with a quick statement quickly dismissing the question while failing to answer it, and then rolling into the good talking points that make them look like the best candidate.

It's just like in our industry. You talk about the best converting site, but rarely discuss the sites that do not convert nearly as well.

Every four years and tive in the UK the candidates promise a change for the better. They never deliver it. Because we are not willing to change.

Want a better economy, less on benefits, less crime, etc?

Pay more at the till so goods are produced in the country of sale, by people on a decent wage.

Want a country in less debt, pay more taxes.

That's because you live in the middle of dumbfuck nowhere Montana. People like you expect jobs dilevered to their door step with out having to lift a finger..

I have news for you.. Jobs have almost always meant relocation at almost every point in history since this country's existence.. People have always packed their shit and headed off to find opportunity in this country.

it's only the current entiltited generations whom thinks everything should be delivered to your doorstep no matter where you choose to live. This country was created by people whom got off their ass and moved to where opportunity was.

If your state, city or county is lacking opportunity, then it's only your fault for not seaking out opportunity else where. You think you are entitled to live where ever you want and have the same opportunity as places with the best jobs.. Sorry it doesn't work that way..

There are jobs all over the fucking place, you just have to get off your ass and go where they are.. If you choose to live in a place with no opportunity or jobs then it's your own dumb fault, not Obama's..

You are too fucking late ...


Outsourcing to China Cost U.S. 3.2 Million Jobs Since 2001 - US News

Now China's business leaders are outsourcing to sub-Saharan Africa.
Chinese manufacturers are now outsourcing to Africa

Stop thinking like it's 1996 ... Trade is global now. The second article says the shoe factory wages in Ethiopia is $30 A MONTH! You want those jobs? You ain't going to get them -- that is a ridiculously low wage.

I bought hiking shoes "Garmont" brand from Amazon. The (now?) marketing brand's corporation is in the UK but the shoes are assembled in China, (maybe made with Ethiopian made components?). They were not cheap by any means and the profits were distributed between the US (Amazon) UK (Garmont) and China (Assembly - Fabrication) for certain.

This "bring back the jobs" is political bullshit. That is why your city's @grapesoda and my own city's local business is falling apart -- the jobs are obsoleted and the workers and the government cannot agree on a course of occupational retraining. The sad fact is: most of these workers are not re-trainable because they do not have the aptitude and wiliness to relearn. So, they are made to sit on their asses and collect meager government stipends and of course, complain a lot and constitute a ''low hanging fruit'' voting block. I don't have an answer -- I am just pointing out the cold facts.

Let's go top war with Ethiopia and slaughter those factory workers that the Chinese are playing against their own workers and ours? That would be a ludicrous platform but that would mobilize all the riff-raff to new easy to understand jobs in the military -- stupid isn't it? So is this 'bring back the jobs' bullshit.

Economists Fact-Check Donald Trump's Plan to Bring Back Millions of American Jobs From China | TheBlaze.com
These are the cold hard facts not the bullshit reality show drama.

The old jobs are gone it's adapt or die time ...

The same people whom support Trump, supported Palin/McCain.. They don't have a lot of forward thought..

here are some more cold hard facts, not bullshit reality show drama

Made in the U.S.A. is hot again, and the number of manufacturing jobs that are returning to the U.S. ? or coming to the U.S. for the first time ? from overseas has hit a record level.

Sixty thousand manufacturing jobs were added in the U.S. in 2014, versus 12,000 in 2003, either through so-called reshoring, in which American companies bring jobs back to the U.S., or foreign direct investment, in which foreign companies move production to the U.S., according to a study from the Reshoring Initiative. In contrast, as many as 50,000 jobs were ?offshored? last year, a decline from about 150,000 in 2003.

Record number of manufacturing jobs returning to America - MarketWatch

http://ei.marketwatch.com//Multimedi...f-9b20ed70af1b

Try selling membership to porn sites to people in Ethiopia earning $30 A MONTH!

Outsourcing, has led to a huge loss of money swirling around the West's economies. The loss of jobs has hit the working class, the middle class will be next. Those entrepreneurs running businesses that require clients in the West who will buy their goods.

The bosses of Nike, don't care and their buying isn't going to make a huge amount of difference?

Is it too late? Of course not. Elect Governments that don't feed off the corporate nipple. That will impose import taxes that will fund jobs in the West. So those entrepreneurs running businesses that require clients in the West who will buy their goods. Still have customers to sell to.

All it takes is for people to change first, then the politicians will be forced to change.

And if you think "Those jobs are gone". Then ask why, the only answer is we're happy to buy cheap stuff we don't need.

In fact, among the world’s top 10 export economies, the U.S. last year ranked No. 2 — behind only China — for cost competitiveness, according to the Boston Consulting Group, with real estate and natural gas and other energy prices tending to apply downward cost pressure in the U.S.

A country taking so few goods from the US, and selling a lot. So the trade balance is one way. Isn't going to have a plausible threat of blocking imports. Still the problem remains.

June exports were $188.6 billion
June imports were $232.4 billion
Gap $43.8 billion

20% Gap approx.

OK let's say Nike, Apple and more aren't going to suddenly open new factories in the US. The US has a lot of goods it can sell it's suppliers. Petroleum, financial services, steel, motor vehicles, aerospace, telecommunication, chemicals, arms industry, electronics, food processing, consumer goods, lumber, mining. Just a suggestion.

It only needs to say, "We will buy the same amount of goods you buy from us. The rest we will tax 25% at the portside."

Then watch exports soar.

The alternative is carrying on as we are and watching our sales, to our customers drop.

In the beginning I believed the Common Market was about giving European companies the edge to sell to one another. It opened it's doors to the Third world. However the US is strong arming the EU to allow American Healthcare companies to compete in the EU market.

Why? The EU needs to keep the US as a customer.

Does Trump have the will, can he force the Senate and Congress to go with him?

exports are slightly down over the 3 month short term because of the strong dollar and weak global growth. heads-up.

Adding 60,000 new jobs in US manufacturing is great but how many of the are the jobs gone of 2 million +?

I guess you just don't get it -- the low skilled worker is permanently displaced. Jobs assembling global outsourced parts for durable goods domestically can work. The auto or large home appliance manufactures in the USA are a prime example.

Cheap electronic consumer goods are now relegated to low wage market because they now produce acceptable quality products. I have 8 computers in my office 2 have Antec cases made in the USA another an NZXT gaming case all made in the USA the rest of their parts, to the best of my knowledge -- I custom built them myself) are of foreign origin -- I think (maybe) that the AMD CPUs may not be of foreign origin sold by a USA technology innovator.

People that make less than $30K don't spend (much) money on porn -- why do you think tube websites took over? Get a fucking clue. You sound like the Trumpster ...

Time waits for no man ...

And that should effect net imports -- has it?

*NVM

The U.S. Census Bureau and the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, through the Department of
Commerce, announced today that the goods and services deficit was $43.8 billion in June, up
$2.9 billion from $40.9 billion in May, revised. June exports were $188.6 billion, $0.1 billion
less than May exports. June imports were $232.4 billion, $2.8 billion more than May imports.

News Release: U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services

no, i very much do get it Barry. if you want to get into a who doesn't get shit tangent, barry, keep going.

That was directed at Paul not you ... I have no interest in board name calling drama don't even threaten it ...

it wasn't a threat barry. i don't start shit here and have no desire to. i do finish shit.

imports are up over the same period. what's your point about it effecting net imports when the issue being discussed was jobs that left are not returning and according to the conjecture you posted, they will never return, when in very much fact, they are.

I am just pointing out the idiocy of the "bring back the jobs" bullshit political spin.

It is not productive only decisive. I really which that there was a real plan for re-education and new occupational training.

As much as I disagree with Bernie Sanders populist agenda he is supporting free (taxpayer paid) higher education. But that is twisted in a way -- we don't need marginally qualified workers with general education BS degrees ... We need graduates of occupational schools and AA grads with technological scientific and engineering schooling.

And @Paul, those are you future porn buyers; not the guy who had a factory job screwing in the left fender on the assembly line that was replaced by a more efficient robotic worker that does not get paid every week, costing benefits and workman's comp insurance premiums or reserves.

Long term that is plain wrong. Look at the figures by the year ... The best thing I ever did was to globalize my income. In my last career, as a contractor locally, I would be dead ass broke by now or living hand to mouth ...

Right now the oil price collapse is affecting a lot more than just the price of fuel. That distorts the picture. As much as I despise Hillary, she has come out for subsidized solar power but the subsidy would be available for foreign made solar panels with USA (vocationally trained) workers installing them. That is basic technological training like I have said above -- the twist is this will support the Chinese economy and forebear the great fear (mostly drama spin) of the cashing in of the USA debt to the Bank of China (and other Chinese debt holders).

This isn't kumbaya or behappy thinking -- this is the new globalist strategy in today's world economy that is needed.

i didn't post anything about long term anything. i posted the statistics that show jobs and manufacturing are in fact returning to the USA and that's the trend. there is nothing to suggest the trend won't continue.

Bottom line is...people are tired of bullshit lying politicians.

Whether any of us on a porn message board think we are economists or not is irrelevant.

What the 2 ruling parties have done together is run up 18 trillion in debt, keep us at perpetual war, and helped usher our economy into a deep hole.

Yes, there are things govt. CAN do to bring those jobs in Barry. I've seen it happen with my own two eyes in the upstate of S.C. when that economy was in shambles because the textile industry left in mass to China. The state govt. created incentives for BMW that made it far more appealing to them to build their car plant in S.C. than in Mexico or anywhere else.

And the salaries were great and far above anything else in that area. Reinvigorated the local economy for a third of the entire state.

But that isn't what Trump REALLY represents.

You keep trying to say this is all "old angry white men". Because young white men are so happy with the way things are? Because women are? Because minorities are?

The only reason Trump is getting big poll numbers is because of the old fashioned ways of "business as usual" of lifetime/career politicians. They promise the world, and then get in office and it's business as usual: empowering themselves and enriching their cronies at the expense of the people.

Everything else you are trying to read into it is fruitless. This country can't continue on it's current course. And that course will be the same one if something doesn't change.

As I said before, my hope is that Trump and Sanders will scare the shit out of their respective party's and cause them to do something positive in response (out of fear of losing their power).

trump's still in the lead, big time.

Donald Trump Still in the Lead After Debates: New NBC News/Survey Monkey Poll - NBC News

Let's discuss the trend 18 months and 36 months down the road from today -- OK? IMO, that time period would be medium term trending. Long term tending is more than 5 years.

I don't get too moved by monthly or quarterly reports and look to annual trends with some skepticism.

Robbie, there is an old Who Song from the late 60's and it's and old song I have heard too many times ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3Fg

Agreed. I've thought about this song many times since the Afghan and Iraq wars. It's hard to believe that we HAVE been fooled again. It's almost like nobody learned anything from Vietnam. :(

well said bro. i been noting this weekend that yahoo seems hell-bent on destroying trump, their feed is saturated with attacks on him disguised as news. & yet, his polling doesnt budge.

i hope he wins just to be a headache to the status quo. i love that he has no shackles to a party base to drag him down. He can talk left or right at his own choosing, nobody can box him into a label. its perfect to take out that entitled feckless snotty wench hillary. i bet even bill would vote trump.

:thumbsup

Really, crock-o-shit?
Maybe Conservatives are angry but the left-wingers are vicious and way over the top.










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The US Government is the most corrupt government in the world and since JFK there has not been a real president. The presidents have been nothing but puppets for the world banks, oil companies and energy companies.

Donald Trump is the only chance the USA has to make a change but will never happen because all the elections are rigged.

Only someone who is raging with over the top anger would take the time to post all the shit you just posted and have no one read it..

you're such a fucking hypocrite. you give your libtard butt buddies, you know the blacks, a free pass for anger, on account they're democrats.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

hahaha... "you have to be really angry to refute the point that i think you're really angry"

makes sense. its just crockett science!

Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.

:1orglaugh it's like these gfyers that exclaim

you argue with everyone all the time in every post in every thread.

no, that's not accurate.

SEE! there you go arguing.

Its like we can just exchange user names with the all GFY angry conservatives and the posts equal the same mindless dribble.

Oh and getting back to the topic when are all you angry conservatives going to do your little revolt?

Can we plan on some good ole fashion dindu nuttins riots in the streets or are you guys just gonna make some stupid signs and stand out side of the post office?