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Struggle4Bucks 09-14-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20579552)
look, we get a lot of flack for having bases over there, i'm in the camp that prefers we didn't. by our having bases in euro that allowed euros to cut their own military. so much in fact, that according to some accounts, not being able to run basic military actions. that said, it looks to me and to others that the barbarian hoards coming to euro are not going to be well received, not going to accept western culture and try to inculcate islam into their new area, and also have amongst them, terrorists looking to harm the West, at that point, euros will be grateful for that American military presence.

Most of American presence in Europe is located in Germany... We all know since when and why that happend. The US is slowly retrieving here... because of.... you know... cutting budgets....

Euros are participating in military actions all over the world any day of the year... so saying euros are not able to run basic military operations is just not true...

Thinking that 116.000 american soldiers in Europe are going to make the difference is: or megalomania thinking; or symptoms of the White Knight Syndrome; or the result of Holywood. Europe's soldiers count 1,5 million... More then enough to solve a possible internal turmoil...

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20579552)
you're the gfyer calling America(ns) pussies, etc, blah blah while you were hi-fivin the other guy for USA creating al qaida and isis, based on that, and other comments you've made here makes it clear to me you are not friendly towards the USA.

I don't remember high fivin about that... I'm not sharing that view so i can't imagine that i did that.... If true must have meant something else.... also can't find it... please show me where i did that...

I called Americans pussies because i said that we don't need pussy-bombing with drones???? That's a pretty weird way of drawing conclusions...

Being critical is not the same as being Anti-American... which i am not...

Sly 09-14-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20579575)
Then send the Dutch, French and UK armies, along with any other nation's military forces that volunteer, in on the ground and defeat ISIS your way. Another "committee action" ...

It's your continent of Europe being invaded -- rise and confront the threat. The USA can just walk away and let Europe handle the matter.

The Russians and Iranians may just beat you to it ...

Gates criticizes NATO; How much does U.S. pay? - CBS News

klinton 09-14-2015 09:44 PM

now this is fucking priceless. i rest my case brainiac.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
ever thought who supported and basically created al qaeda in 80s ? just like who supported Saddam in 80s ?
if there would be no external support for mudjahedins/al qaeda in 80s, Ruskies would have have easy helicopter ride over there.
but no...that time these strange mudjaedins were called "freedom fighters" and "people with great spirit, bravery and principles". suddenly, 20 years later they got their transformation into "goat fuckers" "terrorists" and "cruel barbarians"
is this your favorite movie, brainiac ?
The Beast of War (1988) - IMDb

want to share with us the other "amazing" titles that you seem to swallow without any reasoning ?

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20579520)
i'll drop some knowledge on the ruskies here that like to blame America for al qaida-

"Al-Qaeda was created in 1989 as Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden and his colleagues began looking for new jihads.

The organisation grew out of the network of Arab volunteers who had gone to Afghanistan in the 1980s to fight under the banner of Islam against Soviet Communism."


ruskies have yourselves to blame for al qaida.


BBC NEWS | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links


k0nr4d 09-15-2015 12:11 AM

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b9&oe=566F1A83

webgurl 09-15-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20579687)

now that is creepy :disgust

Paul&John 09-15-2015 01:45 AM

wow I didnt know that:
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The rise of Nazism in Germany did not target Muslims. Adolf Hitler had a favorable view of Islam and Muslims. He repeatedly expressed the view that Islam would have been much more compatible to the "Germanic races" than "meek" and "feeble" Christianity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Germany

also:
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According to the German statistical office 9.1% of all newborns in Germany had Muslim parents in 2005.
and that was 10 years ago..

michel 09-15-2015 02:31 AM

War = power oil and $$

Scott McD 09-15-2015 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20579687)

Imagine the amount of farts in a matter of minutes there...Ewww.

Paul Markham 09-15-2015 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20578962)
Exactly why I always thought the EU was odd. Different countries with different cultures and different economies forcing other countries to do what they say.

What Merkel isn't figuring in a lot is the long term effects.

Europeans are getting very annoyed with the way politicians are dealing with this crisis. Europe cannot take 1,000,000 plus low skilled or non working migrants every year. From anywhere, of any colour of race. It's purely an issue of costs.

Housing them in wooden sheds insulated against the cold will cost, this is what you get for $3,000

http://www.northstreetsheds.co.uk/co...0-x-10_300.png

Add insulating, land, toilets, paths, roads, food, healthcare, clothing, education, policing, fencing, etc. and before it's finished toh cost is spiraling.

And this is the only solution. The good thing about this solution is it removes the economic migrant from the equation.

Do anything else and the people who pay the bills, taxpayers, will vote out the liberals and the response Hungary has shown. Will seem soft and lenient.

j3rkules 09-15-2015 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20579687)

That is what politics want and still many people.

CAHEK 09-15-2015 07:37 AM

Small imigrant already know, what he will do, with europeans.


GAH 09-15-2015 08:26 AM

This has now become a farce, with the news that the father of the dead three-year-old infant, Aylan Kurdi, is named as the pilot of the boat that sank, and was due to get a cut of the people smuggling payment. That dilutes the sympathy anyone should have for that person. If anything, he should be charged with murdering his family.

I applaud Hungary closing its border with Serbia today, saying those wanting to cross have to register in that country they are in, that they have reached safety and should settle there. It's all very well Merkel saying she will take them all, 800,000 of them, and starting this sudden mass exodus from so many countries, whether they are refugees or not, because Germany want to hand-pick those because of their ageing population, the crisis they face soon of not enough future tax payers in the country. Instead of making out Germany are the saviours in this crisis, they should have come clean and told them they only want the young men and women who can work and fit in with their plans. What she said has multiplied the problem to eppic proportions and can now never be undone.

Thanks again Germany.

Sly 09-15-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GAH (Post 20580068)
This has now become a farce, with the news that the father of the dead three-year-old infant, Aylan Kurdi, is named as the pilot of the boat that sank, and was due to get a cut of the people smuggling payment. That dilutes the sympathy anyone should have for that person. If anything, he should be charged with murdering his family.

I applaud Hungary closing its border with Serbia today, saying those wanting to cross have to register in that country they are in, that they have reached safety and should settle there. It's all very well Merkel saying she will take them all, 800,000 of them, and starting this sudden mass exodus from so many countries, whether they are refugees or not, because Germany want to hand-pick those because of their ageing population, the crisis they face soon of not enough future tax payers in the country. Instead of making out Germany are the saviours in this crisis, they should have come clean and told them they only want the young men and women who can work and fit in with their plans. What she said has multiplied the problem to eppic proportions and can now never be undone.

Thanks again Germany.

I have been wondering how much responsibility she should be taking on this. She said "come one, come all" and the exodus got bigger, and bigger, and bigger.

j3rkules 09-15-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20580010)
Small imigrant already know, what he will do, with europeans.


People of peace.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 09-15-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20580010)
Small imigrant already know, what he will do, with europeans.


muslim kids blow up so fast these days.

http://i.imgur.com/iao6ZEA.jpg

Struggle4Bucks 09-15-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20580010)
Small imigrant already know, what he will do, with europeans.


Someone should calculate how many European houses we can warm with them... you now... thinking green... from waste to energy...

EonBlue 09-15-2015 09:39 AM

A good read which pretty much sums up the bleak future of the West whether people want o believe it or not.

Immigration, Altruism and National Suicide

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The liberal establishment in the West seems intent on national suicide. Just as they deem George Orwell?s Nineteen Eighty-Four to be a blueprint on how to run a country rather than a brutal warning about life under the Socialist jackboot, so they deem Jean Raspail?s novel The Camp of the Saints to be a blueprint on importing the third-world in their millions and bringing Western Civilisation to a close.

The majority of people in the West suffer from the ?illusion of permanency? ? by which I mean they think tomorrow will be no different to today and that next year will be no different to this year. They are correct that little will change in such a short time span, but the West has set into motion a series of events that will totally transform our society well before 2050, let alone by the end of this century.

[...]

The politically correct West is de-natured, de-Christianised and de-populated. The incoming non-West is nature red in tooth and claw; fanatically religious and fanatically fecund. Tomorrow belongs to them, not us, and to welcome them in in the numbers we are currently allowing is to sign the death sentence for Western Civilisation.

Some European leaders understand this. Interestingly, they tend to be from the countries once controlled by Communism and therefore not swayed by the sixty years of politically correct, subversive indoctrination meted out to the non-Communist countries with regard to feminism, racism, multiculturalism and moral and cultural relativism.
We are simply not having enough kids of our own to stop the inevitable transformation and destruction of our societies. The left somehow celebrates this as progress but it is all of their so-called progress that will be wiped out first.


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j3rkules 09-15-2015 09:50 AM

Apartheid comes to Germany! Medical care, education, housing, jobs – no government has the money to bring these services up to the normal German standard for the refugees, despite the burgeoning of the bureaucracy jobs it will entail. Who will pay for that? Therefore the invaders will be going to Muslim schools and mosques paid for by Saudi Arabia. They will be a state within a state. Well said.

j3rkules 09-16-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20580140)
Someone should calculate how many European houses we can warm with them... you now... thinking green... from waste to energy...

Economic run away migrants like those featured are exactly the problem. Their running away rather than fighting for Syria when drafted is why their self interests should not be accommodated. How would ww2 have turned out if millions of selfish millitary draft age men had just run away? Japan and Germany would be ruling the world.

These economic migrants are just draft dodgers not refugees.

Scott McD 09-16-2015 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20580069)
I have been wondering how much responsibility she should be taking on this. She said "come one, come all" and the exodus got bigger, and bigger, and bigger.

Yer even now she still seems to be getting off very lightly indeed.

Would love to hear the views from typical tax paying Germans right now...

Paul&John 09-16-2015 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20580859)
Yer even now she still seems to be getting off very lightly indeed.

Would love to hear the views from typical tax paying Germans right now...

I've read some comments on spiegel or welt (cant remember) and those guys weren't happy about the whole influx.. of course those were readers of only one newspapers, hard to tell whats the general opinion on this..

MaDalton 09-16-2015 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 20580859)
Yer even now she still seems to be getting off very lightly indeed.

Would love to hear the views from typical tax paying Germans right now...

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Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20580905)
I've read some comments on spiegel or welt (cant remember) and those guys weren't happy about the whole influx.. of course those were readers of only one newspapers, hard to tell whats the general opinion on this..

Since on GFY only hate posts get you applause nowadays, I have given up trying to be a more reasonable voice.

the only thing i will say: comments on FB or other websites are usually by a large % of people that are frustrated with their lives and have too much time - just like on GFY

MetaMan 09-16-2015 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20580914)
the only thing i will say: comments on FB or other websites are usually by a large % of people that are frustrated with their lives and have too much time - just like on GFY

You described yourself perfectly! I couldn't have said it better myself.

MaDalton 09-16-2015 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20580927)
You described yourself perfectly! I couldn't have said it better myself.

<yaaawwwnnn>

MetaMan 09-16-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20580935)
<yaaawwwnnn>

So you admit to wasting your time reading other peoples comments on facebook/websites/GFY and somehow you don't have too much free time!? :1orglaugh

What a little sad blob of human you are.

MaDalton 09-16-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20580942)
So you admit to wasting your time reading other peoples comments on facebook/websites/GFY and somehow you don't have too much free time!? :1orglaugh

What a little sad blob of human you are.

you seem like a very angry person, i dont think you have much friends in real life

MetaMan 09-16-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20580951)
you seem like a very angry person, i dont think you have much friends in real life

LOL save it asshole. You run around calling people racists, disrespect anyone with an opinion different than your own, judge your friends on facebook, post comments that they have "too much time on their hands".

Trust me I have plenty of friends. Just not knit picky little whiners who are full of themselves like you.

MaDalton 09-16-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20580961)
LOL save it asshole. You run around calling people racists, disrespect anyone with an opinion different than your own, judge your friends on facebook, post comments that they have "too much time on their hands".

Trust me I have plenty of friends. Just not knit picky little whiners who are full of themselves like you.

ok then.

:thumbsup

adultwebmestar 09-16-2015 07:40 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfrpwAEMe0c
refugees... go orban

dyna mo 09-16-2015 08:02 AM

ftr, i am not MetaMan.

Paul&John 09-16-2015 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by adultwebmestar (Post 20580973)


k0nr4d 09-16-2015 08:30 AM

Live stream of muslim invasion
Refugees, police clash at Hungarian-Serbian border On Air — RT

Already heard a few allaha akbars...and fuck these people litter so fucking much.

Jel 09-16-2015 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GAH (Post 20580068)
This has now become a farce, with the news that the father of the dead three-year-old infant, Aylan Kurdi, is named as the pilot of the boat that sank, and was due to get a cut of the people smuggling payment.

confirmed? source?

Paul&John 09-16-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20581020)
confirmed? source?

word against word..

Claims Aylan Kurdi's father 'people smuggler'

Father of Drowned Syrian Boy Alan Kurdi Denies Being a 'People Smuggler'

RazorSharpe 09-16-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20581017)
Live stream of muslim invasion
Refugees, police clash at Hungarian-Serbian border On Air — RT

Already heard a few allaha akbars...and fuck these people litter so fucking much.

What I find funny Konrad is that you and your Prime Minister are possibly the only two Polish people left in Poland coz the rest of them left to get better handouts in other member states. UK people complained a LOT when this happened. They complained when Poles took jobs at lower wages, they complained when Poles got child benefits for children not even in the UK and they complained when Poles started getting their own grocery aisles in supermarkets.

Forget everything you THINK you know about Middle Eastern people or everything you've heard about Middle Eastern people. You and I have spoken numerous times - did you ever get anything less than total respect from me?

I'm not an anomaly - there are Middle Eastern people who can be respectful and that do in fact assimilate to their environment. Sure, they may still pray and eat Halal or even wear a hijab - I hope you're not suggesting that they need to give up their civil liberties because that would go against everything Europe currently stands for.

EonBlue 09-16-2015 09:14 AM

Welcome to the new Europe. A banner in Germany reads:

"euer kinder werden allah beten oder sterben"

Translation:

"your children will worship Allah or die"

http://i.imgur.com/rKSM5oo.jpg

Sad thing is that it is likely true.



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aka123 09-16-2015 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20581044)
Sad thing is that it is likely true.
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MaDalton will be pissed off, but come on.. we are talking about the people those killed 6 million jews + millions of other casualties.

The worst case scenario is civil war and I don't think that the Muslims would win it. At most they get gassed.

femdomdestiny 09-16-2015 09:26 AM

Poor "refugees"... just did print screen form live stream on Hungarian border where these poor people are attacking police and trying to enter country by force

http://s5.postimg.org/b659yw4tz/animal.png

Live: Refugees, police clash at Hungarian-Serbian border On Air ? RT

EonBlue 09-16-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20581055)
MaDalton will be pissed off, but come on.. we are talking about the people those killed 6 million jews + millions of other casualties.

The worst case scenario is civil war and I don't think that the Muslims would win it. At most they get gassed.

No they probably wouldn't win a civil war...yet. But they will win they demographic war and when they do Germany and the rest of Europe is theirs. At at that point any remaining native Europeans will be at their mercy.


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aka123 09-16-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20581061)
No they probably wouldn't win a civil war...yet. But they will win they demographic war and when they do Germany and the rest of Europe is theirs. At at that point any remaining native Europeans will be at their mercy.
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No, that is when the civil war starts if it hasn't started already. Well, at least it would start around here, I can guarantee that. Though I don't think that it will go that far in here anyways.

Sly 09-16-2015 09:37 AM

At this point, I cannot blame them for being pissed. While I don't suggest or recommend they take any violent action, I can see why they would. Empathy, not sympathy.

Germany and a few others said "hey guys, come on over." If you were them, why would you not take that as a sign? You pack up, get your family ready, maybe just you and your buddies or brothers and you start your journey. You get halfway there and are told "hey wait a minute, I know we told you to come and I know that you risked your life because of it, but now you need to either sit and wait in that field or you need to risk your life again and go home. Sorry guys!"

Leaders fell under pressure from the sentimental voters, made terrible decisions, and now the fallout is going to be much, much worse than it would have been if the migrants were told no from the get-go.

No clue what Serbia is going to do with all of these people that Hungary is not letting through. Think of all of the people that are still on the way that may not know about the closed crossings.

dyna mo 09-16-2015 09:41 AM

hey germany, no quitsies


j3rkules 09-16-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20581044)
Welcome to the new Europe. A banner in Germany reads:

"euer kinder werden allah beten oder sterben"

Translation:

"your children will worship Allah or die"

http://i.imgur.com/rKSM5oo.jpg

Sad thing is that it is likely true.



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Actually, it does not surprise me. Let them to your country and this virus will grow and eat you...

RazorSharpe 09-16-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20581086)
Actually, it does not surprise me. Let them to your country and this virus will grow and eat you...

No ulterior motives but I'm curious - what country are you from?

MaDalton 09-16-2015 10:18 AM

no worries about me, i find these threads actually very helpful

j3rkules 09-16-2015 05:19 PM

Africa’s population, now 1.1 billion, is projected to grow to 2.4 billion by 2050. Pew Research Center estimates that the Muslim population of the Middle East and Africa alone will have grown to 552 million in 2050, from 317 million in 2010. India, whose current population approaches 1.3 billion, recently announced that it will be seeking “to emigrate” 300 million of its own. If you don’t know already where all this Third World surplus will seek to relocate, you are either an important member of the European Commission, an official in the Obama administration, or a do-good Christian, Jew or “humanist” white person, particularly of the female persuasion.

Already, well over 12 million — 20% of France’s population — are the foreign-born and their children, most of them African and Middle-Eastern Muslims. The respective ratios are 22% in Sweden and 16% in Norway. Sweden (population 9.6 million) is the top self-dissolving nation with 33,000 “refugees” granted asylum in 2014, then Germany (pop. 86 million) with 48,000, France and Italy (21,000 each) and the UK (14,000).

You are being redirected...

j3rkules 09-16-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20581075)
hey germany, no quitsies


https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a...b2&ec_rate=230

dalt 09-16-2015 05:36 PM

What crap.
 
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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20569558)
dude. isaac newton invented gravity in 1492. if you dont possess knowledge, thats on you. besides immigration is a fact of civilization. people been moving for a better place since the cave man.

:error:)

You talk about possessing knowledge and you make a ridiculous claim that Isaac Newton invented gravity. Are you for real. Your knowledge is also lacking as gravity has been around since day dot.

aka123 09-16-2015 05:56 PM

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The respective ratios are 22% in Sweden and 16% in Norway. Sweden (population 9.6 million) is the top self-dissolving nation with 33,000 “refugees” granted asylum in 2014,[/url]
Helan går..

aka123 09-16-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20579587)
Europe's soldiers count 1,5 million... More then enough to solve a possible internal turmoil...

Finland has reserve of 900 000 men and the initial size of the actual active battle troops is 230 000 in these days. Was recently cut back from 350 000 men.


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