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It doesn't matter if I state it once or a million times- you are free to blame America. You're free to flipflop and you are free to call me names while you exclaim I'm going ape shit and being disrespectful.
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And in the end, in spite of my sarcasm; None of us can offer a realistic solution. I have to conclude that the only reasonable act is to try to turn back this immigrant flood and return them ''home (to the region)" to straighten their own problem out -- we have no place for these people. The consequences of US, NATO, Russian, Arab and Iranian interference in the region is only in the respective interfering countries' interests. These people that are trying to escape just want that -- to get the fuck out of their bad situation. When you hate you just get your own hate mirrored back -- we are all victims of someone. |
How many isis terrorists have infiltrated the refugee wave into the west? Hijrah.
Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is a form of stealth jihad. |
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Ideally, the Middle East's inhabitants should seek some common ground and stop killing each other. With a 3,000 year* (about) history of regional warfare this may never happen. There may be a few stealthy ISIS or other Muslim extremist terrorists mixed in. So, damn them all to hell then? That is the sure way for ISIS to get new recruits -- that thinking is self defeating. Vet them all out, if necessary in refugee camps when they reach land. All of Europe is affected and all of Europe should react in unity and address this problem together. Instead, all the individual EU nation-states bicker and play the pass-the-trash immigrants to your neighbor game. That is no solution ... |
Yeah a few isis guys is ok.
And They can't vet them out Barry, they can't ask questions related to religion and such without being labeled an islamaphobe. |
Then if they don't roll over they all go back on the next return ship.
If that is the case then they all go back -- word gets out; if you don't roll over you go back ... ... maybe they won't leave? We (NATO?) could just cut off the Middle East until they sued for peace. No oil from the region but none, or few, immigrants. Who do you think would fold first? |
YES it's a fucking tragedy what's going on in the middle east and all immigrants dying on their way to europe but c'mon this so called solution of weak european politican leadership is just as idiotic as me shooting myself in the foot.
Here's a temporary solution that some of you might have previously heard about. Close the fucking border to middle east and africa. Set up refugee camps to house all immigrants. Yes it will take some management and partnership with a few countries in that area. European countries throw money in a pool so that the immigrants can have a "decent" life at the camps and install troops to protect them from islamic state etc. Then when things settle down there whenever that happens (first and foremost get rid of Islamic state) they can build up their own countries. This is a complex situation but this solution to give asylum to those that can PAY ?4000-?8000 to go from northern africa to southern europe by paying organized smugglers is INSANE A majority of these so called immigrants don't give a fuck about greece, hungary, italy, spain etc, no they want to northern europe where they can be feed generously by the different states (economic immigrants). This shit don't go hand in hand with some of the images of people in the direct conflict area in africa/middle east. This will have a major impact on the future of europe. If David Cameron can't play the british people, they will leave the EU as it looks now. If they do but I think the british politicians will do anything to avoid that, it may set in motion the fall of the EU as we know it. PS: Angela Merkel you are a fucking dumb cow! Quote:
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LiveLeak.com - Immigrants throw away the food and the water what they get What do you think when you watch the video? Quote:
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Which syrian refugee would you take? Can you see the difference between a good or bad one or you don't care? How about some from eritrea? Swedes Are Reacting to the IKEA Murders, And They Aren't Happy Quote:
I wonder how many people in a refugee camp can be helped for the same cost to feed a family in germany 2 parents 3 kids. It adds up to a lot. Quote:
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Just wish I could flee somewhere, away from europe. Australia and canada is obviously high up on the list. Any good south american countries you would consider ? Any other suggestions ? |
Nobody celebrates dead children. It is more that they think in europe that people make 2 choices, or welcome the refugees, or see them dead. But people that are against immigration also don't like to see the death wash ashore and people that realy needs help going to die. But the people that are against immigration are willing to help also, but in another way, not by giving everybody asylum but help them local and support countries that do help. But that is the right/left poltitics in Europe. If you are not willing tio give all people asylum you are the bad guy that also don't care people are drowning. But everybody hates to see people drowning. But one group says, take them in and sent ships, while the other group says, help them there and don't allow them to make the dangerous route with smugglers on their ships and help them there.
But in europe now people see now you must have both options, help them there and in Europe cause the problem is getting to big. Ps only 25% of the refugees is realy a refugee. Most of them are from other countries to get into Europe saying they are from syria and will sent back soon. At least, if the system works cause that 75% that isn't from Syria start legal actions (free for them) and start proceeding for years and in the end can get into europe cause they are already so long time in europe.. having children there etcetra.... Proceeding cost a lot of time and money for that countries. So in the end more and more people tend to give refugees the finger. |
More cultural enrichment:
Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies | Daily Mail Online Makes you wonder what they would be willing to do with OUR children. We're nearing the end of this years wave anyways, around november... the Mediterranean gets alot choppier in the fall/winter and alot of those migrants have to pass through mountains on the land route. There will be 5x more next year though. |
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By posting this video as a 'proof' that these people are scum, you prove that you know 5% of the story what happened to these ppl in Hungary. They have a reason to act like this, believe me. So posting this video along with the other one w guy going crazy and taking the baby+lady down next to the train: BORING. :2 cents: If you want to scare me you should post videos like this, because - no matter how hippie I am - this scares me for real: |
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To be more exact, the West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey have not exacerbated the Syrian conflict, they have rather fomented it from the beginning by supporting the Wahhabi terrorists of ISIS.
Now unexpected fall-outs and backlashes of this politics of chaos have become a problem for themselves. Recent developments: - the chief of the Wahhabi terrorists and ISIS (the King of Saudi Arabia) is currently in the White House. It seems that they are talking about how to end the Syrian chaos, - US is hinting at probable ground intervention against ISIS in Syria, - UK and France are gesticulating about increasing their engagement, - rumors of Russian direct military intervention in Syria, Hope that they will come to the conclusion that this madness should stop quickly otherwise the whole region of the Middle East including Israel will be burnt in its fire. |
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The thing he's promoting is total crap also. Maybe I should just write a bot to reply to every post he makes to warn people not to buy what is in his sig. :2 cents: |
The is no unity in the Arab world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat ^the 1966 Syrian coup The exception being the current King or strongman that uses the police or military to prop up his regime. How would you like to live that way? The European states now mainly just shout accusations and insults at each other where they shot bullets at each other not that long ago. The USA accepted millions of immigrants. Ellis Island was built to sort out the masses that came to our shores from Europe and other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island Quote:
Sound familiar, as many of the claims of the immigrant nationality being Syrian are false? There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it. Americans were hostile to the Irish that immigrated here during the potato famine ... Ireland's problems were exacerbated by British occupation and rule -- in the end the Irish revolted and ran the British off most of the island. Many Irish were 'economic-refugees' to the USA not unlike the current Muslim refugees reaching Europe's shores today. The predominantly Protestant Christians barely tolerated the hated Irish Catholics. The poorer USA working class screamed; Stop this Irish immigration they are taking our jobs! Sound familiar -- I will build a wall to keep the criminal immigrants out and there will be more jobs for Americans [US citizens](bullshit) What are Latin Americans, men from the moon? This is so arrogant I am embarrassed. Sadly, history repeats itself then repeats itself again. The Sunni and Shiite Muslims have the same animosity and a similar religious schism. Within each subset of coreligionist there are long standing tribal and ethnic frictions dating back over 1,000 years. So, here we are today ... |
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*see above^^^There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it. Quote:
Europe doesn't have to take in these immigrants. The USA took in almost 8 million immigrants from Europe at Ellis Island in New York City until the 1920's then Canada and Latin America took many more. The USA is not welcoming masses of immigrants. So what are you Europeans going to decide to do? Embargo your shores to the immigrant wave -- let them drown or go back. Or, are you just going to have a shouting contest for a year?[do nothing] Again sarcasm ... If Germany agrees to accept up to 800K give the immigrants passage to Germany. When the 800K limit is reached, turn further immigrant waves back if there is no place for them. That is what the USA did with the waves that came from Europe until 1923* Parts of my family ended up in Canada and Argentina. That was still in the Americas and a lot better than Odessa was. Problem is there are 1 or 2 billion people on the planet that it really cannot now support. If there are ever mass migrations from China or India this will get real ugly. It might be better to "help?" these people find a livable solution in the place they live now -- how I have no fuckin' idea ... The Romans sent Legions -- that in the end didn't do much good. This is a long standing cultural conflict -- but it is in Europe's neighborhood. Would you like the USA's drones to sink their ships? (Again sarcasm, as the thought is ludicrous.) |
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Brits go here - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 lets see if the BBC promote this poll in the way they are the pro-immigration one
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Nice one George. You guys have this all figured out... /sarcasm |
I am just looking through my window. I 've heard some strange screaming never heard before ...and there are dozen of those muslim kids kicking ball in the middle of the street with traffic. Screaming in Arab language and playing aggressively. It looks like I am in fucking Kandahar. I forgot to mention that some of them have gold chains around their necks. Small savages. This is sick.
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The people of poland unite to help the refugees
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Funnily enough, people don't act like this towards foreigners. At least not that I've seen. There's varying degrees of tolerance (and intolerance) in much of the GCC states. In Saudi for example there's no pork, no alcohol and you can't even mention Christianity or any other religion without a very possible chance of going to jail. Just off the cost of Saudi, a tiny island, Bahrain (a GCC country) has pubs galore, supermarkets sell pork products, women can drive ad they cater to all religious denominations with several churches and temples. In much the same way that these countries expect expats to follow the law of the land, anyone not taking their oaths of allegiance to the adopted countries seriously should have their citizenship revoked and be sent packing. |
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Yet speak out against them, you end up with some jail time, and branded a racist... |
A girl from Syria explained who are false refugees
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A girl from Syria explained who are false refugees .......We had a strong national identity. What you ought to know is that people can see today on the streets of Belgrade on the road to Germany or the Netherlands, are not true Syrians. Do not understand me wrong, I love my people, but my people are the ones who fight for Syria, for our homeland. It is true that refugees are suffering, but who have not suffered during this war? Why the rest of Syria remains in the country and continues to fight? If they are refugees, then they would choose to go first to the nearest safe place and not to be beaten by the Hungarian police, because they want to get to Germany. Let me ask the question: does that West does not want refugees or refugee wants or does not want to die at sea? So why not stop their sanctions against the Syrian people? Their sanctions Syria cost 143 billion dollars! Why the West does not help Syrians to stay, why not give support to the Syrian army to get rid of terrorists and Syria to again be a safe place? Why they do not help to rebuild destroyed houses with the money spent on refugees? They take people who can renew this country. They want Syria to break down, as they want to break the Syrian people. They abduct Syrian doctors and the best students, which will cause a brain drain on the one hand, and on the other the benefit of multinational companies, that want Subtle workforce to their salaries were less. Our nation has lost over 100,000 troops in the fight against extremists, so far we have not heard that the West is crying for them, those who gave their souls in defense of the nation, leaving behind a proud family. They deserve help, but, on the other hand, the Western media pity only those who were killed trying to flee and leave their country, including jihadists, and they have the money to pay several thousand euros for such a trip...... FULL ARTICLE WITH VIDEO |
Yes, the West should give Assad money to rebuild the Alawite minority government back and while we are at it -- they would like their chemical weapons back to finish the job on the rebels :upsidedow
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And if what you are saying is true, millions of refugees are having their families slaughtered back in syria for their own travel, then that would explain most all the slaughter in syria. But according to reports, its a civil war. These refugees aren't getting jobs when they get to Germany and sending "$6000" back, if that's the number you want to go with. You think the traffickers are waiting years to get paid back and have GPS trackers on the kids these refugee guys left behind to send a hit squad to settle the bill. |
ULTIMATUM United States require Greece to ban entry to Russia airspace
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The interesting thing to watch will be how the countries receiving a share of the migrants are going to stop them from migrating back to Germany since i doubt these people dream of living in Romania or Hungary , this was never tackled by the smart EU politicians while debating how to divide them.
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And as for Germany of course for them it's a good opportunity to have another million or two potential customers for their exports :D |
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Enough of them will stay in underdeveloped economies because it is much better compare to place where they are coming from. Beside that, muslim fanatics don't care for most of things we care. How they stayed in Bosnia or developing their own shit Vahabi communities in Balkans
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