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marc22 11-14-2015 01:17 PM

An Eye For And Eye. Excellent video.

The American Military Empire is 100% to blame.

Of course the migrants want to leave their country. The Americans and allied countries went in there and destroyed their country to steal their resources.

What else are the migrants supposed to do? They have no choice but to go to France and surrounding countries.

What's worse, For some stupid reason the French Government and other countries keeps letting migrants in.

Its pretty obvious this was bound to happen. Arabs will never get along. They don't belong in France, they will never integrate into the French society or other societies.

They belong in a Arab country around their own people.

Not only that, but many will always have hatred for the countries that destroyed their country.


I strongly believe someday humans can live without in a borderless earth. But not in 2015. It's too early.


The only reason they are not flooding to the U.S.A. or Canada is because it's not in walking distance and there is no easy way to get there because of the ocean.

Instead of putting billions of money in war put it in education & science.

Governments and Citizens need to stand up to the U.S.A. and them to fuck off. Stop bombing countries and stop sending their troops to other countries.

Joshua G 11-14-2015 01:25 PM

nice job gentlemen. you confirm that USA & russia are worlds 2 biggest gun sellers.

:thumbsup

dyna mo 11-14-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20635560)
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_or.../2/5891243.jpg

http://abload.de/img/iraq202goj92.jpg

http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_or.../2/5891268.jpg

http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetF...teName=Newsmax

:1orglaugh
You lost weapons in Iraq
as say in the Russian army "if the balls were not scrotum you have lost their too" :1orglaugh

Ruskie, I didn't claim USA shit hasn't fallen into ISIS hands. However, I am the one that understands how shit does fall into enemy hands. But I'm not the one pointing a hypocritical finger. That's you.

dyna mo 11-14-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20635573)
nice job gentlemen. you confirm that USA & russia are worlds 2 biggest gun sellers.

:thumbsup

ISIS victories in Iraq and elsewhere are how USA materials fall into ISIS control. You certainly don't think USA is selling weapons to ISIS.

Mutt 11-14-2015 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marc22 (Post 20635565)

Of course the migrants want to leave their country. The Americans and allied countries went in there and destroyed their country to steal their resources.

Yes we are after Syria's dried apricots and prunes LOL Syria has dick all for resources, for the Middle East they are oil poor, a fraction of 1% of the world's oil comes from Syria.

Paul Markham 11-14-2015 02:15 PM

The West has to wake up to the facts. A lot of the is ruled by absolute ruthless bastards, because they're the only ones who can can control absolute ruthless bastards.

It's time to realise Assad is part of the solution, along with boots on the ground.

Va2k 11-14-2015 02:20 PM

WOW I really hope you're just trolling and don't really believe this bullshit! God I hate when idiots blame everything on the USA! If were so fucking bad then why is it other countries beg for our help with shit hits the fan? When weather causes mass chaos who is it that comes to the rescue?

Tom

Sarn 11-14-2015 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20635573)
nice job gentlemen. you confirm that USA & russia are worlds 2 biggest gun sellers.
:thumbsup

ammo cheap :2 cents:
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635603)
Ruskie, I didn't claim USA shit hasn't fallen into ISIS hands. However, I am the one that understands how shit does fall into enemy hands. But I'm not the one pointing a hypocritical finger. That's you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635605)
ISIS victories in Iraq and elsewhere are how USA materials fall into ISIS control. You certainly don't think USA is selling weapons to ISIS.

Yes it is clear that you dumped Abdulla weapons in Iraq and he sold it.
also spent $ 500 million to prepare the moderate opposition who were isis.

crockett 11-14-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635438)
why wasn't this attack in the USA then? because our border security is so tight? because we have our shit on lock? right. there was absolutely nothing in place to stop the same sort of attack in the USA yesterday.

You want to know why? Because in the US Muslims and anyone else can come here bust their ass and have opportunity. They don't have the same opportunities in Europe, so it's much easier to brainwash extremist there than here.

It also helps they can't just walk here...

crockett 11-14-2015 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20635630)
ammo cheap :2 cents:


Yes it is clear that you dumped Abdulla weapons in Iraq and he sold it.
also spent $ 500 million to prepare the moderate opposition who were isis.

Yet you mention nothing of all the Soviet Era and modern Russian arms every terrorist in the world uses..

You sure don't see many tangos with m16s.. With out Russian weapons they would still be using bolt action rifles over there. The ex Soviet union countries have dumped weapons all over the globe but yea blame the U.S.

dyna mo 11-14-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20635680)
You want to know why? Because in the US Muslims and anyone else can come here bust their ass and have opportunity. They don't have the same opportunities in Europe, so it's much easier to brainwash extremist there than here.

It also helps they can't just walk here...

i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.

Sarn 11-14-2015 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20635619)
The West has to wake up to the facts. A lot of the is ruled by absolute ruthless bastards, because they're the only ones who can can control absolute ruthless bastards.

It's time to realise Assad is part of the solution, along with boots on the ground.

who doesn't obey will be killed (if they can) - everything else is of little concern to the United States.
PS: Welcome to the real world :1orglaugh
PSS: "Obama must go"

dyna mo 11-14-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20635697)
who doesn't obey will be killed (if they can) - everything else is of little concern to the United States.
PS: Welcome to the real world :1orglaugh
PSS: "Obama must go"

bow down ruskie.

adultchatpay 11-14-2015 04:09 PM

Now they are turning their guns to whoever they feel.

This time it's Paris... who's next?

Sarn 11-14-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20635685)
Yet you mention nothing of all the Soviet Era and modern Russian arms every terrorist in the world uses..

You sure don't see many tangos with m16s.. With out Russian weapons they would still be using bolt action rifles over there. The ex Soviet union countries have dumped weapons all over the globe but yea blame the U.S.

you want to repeat our mistakes?
we did a world revolution - Now you decide to do it? but why do you use radical Islamism as an ideology?

Sarn 11-14-2015 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635687)
i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.

surprise! they are not afraid to die ...
acts of terrorism are made by suicide bombers...
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635705)
bow down ruskie.

I lie?
Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 20635712)
Now they are turning their guns to whoever they feel.
This time it's Paris... who's next?

all have risk

j3rkules 11-14-2015 07:32 PM

Its the failure of the multiculturalism experiment.

Joshua G 11-14-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635605)
ISIS victories in Iraq and elsewhere are how USA materials fall into ISIS control. You certainly don't think USA is selling weapons to ISIS.

no no of course, our gun sellers did a hellavajob working with cheney to sell the Iraq war. thats why they sent in donkeys in tora bora. cant sell guns in Iraq if osama went down in 01.

just gotta ignore the blame-the-usa crowd cause the USA is so big it is blamed for not-doing stuff as much as for doing stuff. So its pointless to even address it. Lefties are always looking to blame-shift to anyone other than the actual crime committers. usually whites, males, & rich people are to blame.

:2 cents:

RandyRandy 11-14-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635474)
closing your eyes and pulling the sheet over your head doesn't make the boogie man go away.

If you're talking about Saddam Hussein, there's a lot of people who now wish that boogie man never went away. Same with Gadaffi. Of course hindsite is 20/20.

BTW, I thought the UN was the World's Policemen (Not that I think they are capable of doing anything other than wracking up parking tickets in NYC). Where does it say in our Constitution that spreading "Democracy" and righting the world's wrongs is our job?

EddyTheDog 11-14-2015 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 20635887)
If you're talking about Saddam Hussein, there's a lot of people who now wish that boogie man never went away. Same with Gadaffi. Of course hindsite is 20/20.

BTW, I thought the UN was the World's Policemen (Not that I think they are capable of doing anything other than wracking up parking tickets in NYC). Where does it say in our Constitution that spreading "Democracy" and righting the world's wrongs is our job?

Do you only do what you are told?..

crockett 11-14-2015 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20635687)
i'm sure they're also very afraid of our gun culture.

I don't think people who are willing to die to kill others give a shit about our gun culture. They don't have much of a recruitment pool in this country, because the people they would normally recruit actually have the ability to live decent lives in the U.S.

RandyRandy 11-14-2015 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20635902)
Do you only do what you are told?..


Not for a very long time. But when I stick my nose where it doesn't belong, I don't always enjoy the consequences.

Barry-xlovecam 11-15-2015 10:25 AM

It will be interesting to see what the French actually do militarily.
The French Air Force has been flying airstrikes for some time now mainly in Iraq.

Paris was chosen as a soft target: An unarmed population and large Muslim immigrant population.

If you knew Paris, you would know that the area of the attacks were in Parisian neighborhoods that were not in the tourist or better ''well-heeled'' parts of Paris. They were in locations to terrorize the people of Paris and where the terrorist enemy might find sympathetic hosts to harbor them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_a...cal_population

If you blame the USA you might as well blame the Russians too -- both are dropping most of the bombs ... The French Air Force is active in the theatre of operations also.

pimpmaster9000 11-15-2015 11:39 AM

the USA to blame? DINDU! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the USA is never to blame because: DINDU!!!!

the USA is CANDU! it can never du nuffin'!

ISIS popped out by itself just out of the blue for no reason at all, they had nothing better to do than to turn extremist and the decades of US foreign policy had nothing to do with it, they were just SHIT bored and formed for no reason at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

USA=DINDU! :thumbsup

dyna mo 11-15-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20635748)
surprise! they are not afraid to die ...
acts of terrorism are made by suicide bombers...

I lie?

all have risk

right.

that's why you dumbfuck ruskies think an attack on France is actually really an attack on USA.

nevermind the fucking fact that just begs the question- then why the fuck didn't they actually, you know, attack the fucking USA? it's not like that exact same attack could not have happened here Friday.

dyna mo 11-15-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20635909)
I don't think people who are willing to die to kill others give a shit about our gun culture. They don't have much of a recruitment pool in this country, because the people they would normally recruit actually have the ability to live decent lives in the U.S.

yeah, no. you're trying to tell me the terrorists couldn't scrounge up 8 guys in the USA because they're all living it up [at the tiddy bar]? tell that to the 9/11 guys.

there are many factors that play into why that attack was on France and not on AMerica, not the least of which is the fucking terrorists are afraid of the USA.

Sarn 11-15-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20636283)
right.

that's why you dumbfuck ruskies think an attack on France is actually really an attack on USA.

nevermind the fucking fact that just begs the question- then why the fuck didn't they actually, you know, attack the fucking USA? it's not like that exact same attack could not have happened here Friday.

Attack on France is not an attack on the US. I did not say it. France is a country of NATO, and military aggression against France is in fact an aggression against NATO and the United States is the main NATO country. the USA the policy specially creates problems for allies and solves them. if you do not obey the US - you will attack new monster created by the United States)) isis for example.
so when we bomb the monster(ISIS) - Americans talk about the loss of leadership "putin mast stop bomb isis" "no-fly zone over Syria".
why they didn't attack the USA - why to bite a hand which gives food?

Rochard 11-15-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek (Post 20635424)
  1. The US destabalized Iraq in '03 causing a power vacuum.
  2. In '06 a small, shitty militant group called ISIS was formed in Iraq.
  3. They were unsuccessful, and then moved into Syria in 2009.
  4. Fast forward 4 years to 2013, and the US along with a few other countries started sending massive amounts of money, military equipment and training to the "Free Syrian Army".
  5. 1 year later, much of these resources were in the hands of ISIS.
  6. There were intelligence reports that US knew our resources would end up in the hands of ISIS, but we sent them anyways.

This allowed ISIS to become powerful, re-enter Iraq to claim territories and a lot of leftover US military equipment.

A more detailed account of the above information:


So when I get on social media and see so many espousing "#PrayforParis" hashtags, it's discouraging that so few of them truly realize that ISIS's rise to power was only made possible by the government they love so much.

US foreign policy is atrocious. So much of what we do, results in blowback. 9/11 and now Paris.

You are right. The United States should end all of it's activity in the middle east immediately.

I am sure the terrorist attacks will just magically stop.

Bryan G 11-15-2015 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20636288)
yeah, no. you're trying to tell me the terrorists couldn't scrounge up 8 guys in the USA because they're all living it up [at the tiddy bar]? tell that to the 9/11 guys.

there are many factors that play into why that attack was on France and not on AMerica, not the least of which is the fucking terrorists are afraid of the USA.

What? Lol. These mother fuckers are not scared of anyone. They blow themselves up for fuck sake. It's only a matter of time before it happens in America.

dyna mo 11-15-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20636356)
What? Lol. These mother fuckers are not scared of anyone. They blow themselves up for fuck sake. It's only a matter of time before it happens in America.

no. USA has rained down more shit on ME than France by far. combined with the fact terrorists haven't attacked USA when they could have EASILY done so the exact same way as they did Friday.

over-simplifying the reasonS for why didn't they is myopic. some amount of fear exists in all people as an instinctual trait of survival. it's human nature to survive and suicide bombers are trained to fight the natural instinct to survive, and even then, they can withstand that instinct for mere minutes. fear is real and in everyone.

the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.

Sarn 11-16-2015 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20636363)
the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.

jihad is declared by the USA too...
France IMHO it was to stop the flow of refugees and fighters isis to EU.
hatred against Muslims - It allows terrorists to recruit new fighters, and new terrorists.
in the USA small amount Muslims are also not present refugees.

pimpmaster9000 11-16-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20636363)
the simple fact is they haven't attacked here and it's not because it's a matter of time. it's for actual concrete reasons, including fear. and not just suicide fear but absolute destruction fear. imagine the USA reaction. we will rain down great walls of mother fucking shit on every fucking nook and cranny we think a fucking shitbag terrorist may even be thinking of hiding anywhere in the world. we'll turn entire regions into miles of nothing. we will give no fuck at all.

somebody afraid of the USA that has not won a war ever? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

reality: you guys could not beat a handful of tiny dick asian farmers after 20 years of war and more bombs than in ww2 on all sides combined...you ate to much asian cocktail sausage that it encouraged others to take on communism :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and when you do retaliate, like for 9/11 you actually go and bomb the wrong people :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=40595741

why on earth you think somebody is afraid is beyond me LOL

fact is: france was closer...they had guys in the region or whatever...aint nobody afraid of the tiny asian penis taking USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

NatalieK 11-16-2015 12:33 PM

https://www.rt.com/news/322305-isis-...-40-countries/

40 countries financed ISIS :(

dyna mo 11-16-2015 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20637064)
somebody afraid of the USA that has not won a war ever? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

reality: you guys could not beat a handful of tiny dick asian farmers after 20 years of war and more bombs than in ww2 on all sides combined...you ate to much asian cocktail sausage that it encouraged others to take on communism :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and when you do retaliate, like for 9/11 you actually go and bomb the wrong people :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=40595741

why on earth you think somebody is afraid is beyond me LOL

fact is: france was closer...they had guys in the region or whatever...aint nobody afraid of the tiny asian penis taking USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you're too fucking shell-shocked to realize the damage USA inflicts, we may not "win" but we certainly fuck your shit up royally and continue to be the leaders of the [free] world while we leave your fuckwad country a steaming pile of shit.

and you're too fucking stupid to understand human nature and that everyone has fear of dying.
anyone that thinks the terrorists are fearless courageous people is too fucking stupid to participate in this dialogue.

EonBlue 11-16-2015 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20637401)

Not 40 countries, as in governments, but money from people in 40 countries:

Quote:

During the summit, ?I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them,? Putin told the journalists.

.

PR_Glen 11-16-2015 12:59 PM

when did this place become an all out usa hate forum? time to flush the trash out now... it's not welcome

pimpmaster9000 11-16-2015 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20637415)
you're too fucking shell-shocked to realize the damage USA inflicts, we may not "win" but we certainly fuck your shit up royally and continue to be the leaders of the [free] world while we leave your fuckwad country a steaming pile of shit.

not saying that you do not fuck shit up royally...you are the fuck up masters of the world...its just that we do not give a shit...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20637415)
and you're too fucking stupid to understand human nature and that everyone has fear of dying.
anyone that thinks the terrorists are fearless courageous people is too fucking stupid to participate in this dialogue.

not really...I am not calling terrorists brave, because bravery does not involve killing unarmed people whilst being armed to the tooth yourself...so bravery and courage are not a terrorist trait in any way shape or form...

but fear from dying is another thing completely...I watched your bombs fall and found it amusing...most of us were on the roof tops watching your cruise missiles and bombs destroy shit and we viewed upon this as entertainment...

they are not afraid of dying because the USA has taken away their future, the end...you can not understand this an an american before somebody does it to you...only then can you understand...its like breaking bad...once you lose all hopes of a normal future you lose your fear as well...

nobody is afraid of the USA...france was just closer, and they probably had enough guys in the region :2 cents:

dyna mo 11-16-2015 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20637429)
not saying that you do not fuck shit up royally...you are the fuck up masters of the world...its just that we do not give a shit...



not really...I am not calling terrorists brave, because bravery does not involve killing unarmed people whilst being armed to the tooth yourself...so bravery and courage are not a terrorist trait in any way shape or form...

but fear from dying is another thing completely...I watched your bombs fall and found it amusing...most of us were on the roof tops watching your cruise missiles and bombs destroy shit and we viewed upon this as entertainment...

they are not afraid of dying because the USA has taken away their future, the end...you can not understand this an an american before somebody does it to you...only then can you understand...its like breaking bad...once you lose all hopes of a normal future you lose your fear as well...

nobody is afraid of the USA...france was just closer, and they probably had enough guys in the region :2 cents:

again, this would all make sense if the attack Friday was on USA. it wasn't and there's many reasons for that, not the least of which is fear of USA reprisal. we simply do not give 1 single fuck about what we fuck up in retaliation. ISIS would be dead and gone in 30 days when the fucking USA decides so and strikes accordingly. and the fucking day we get attacked like France did is the fucking day we'd decide to do that.

IS knows that.

pimpmaster9000 11-16-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20637440)
ISIS would be dead and gone in 30 days when the fucking USA decides so and strikes accordingly.

yet 20 years of bombs in vietnam and more bombs and agent orange than ww2 combined, and you got your asses handed to you...reality is a bitch...


Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20637440)

and the fucking day we get attacked like France did is the fucking day we'd decide to do that.

9/11? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

who did you attack? IRAQ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


oh fuck LOL

dyna mo 11-16-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20637498)
yet 20 years of bombs in vietnam and more bombs and agent orange than ww2 combined, and you got your asses handed to you...reality is a bitch...




9/11? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

who did you attack? IRAQ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


oh fuck LOL

dumbfuck, USA is #1. viet nam is #143. it's pretty clear who won.

and dumbfuck, iraq is a shithole now, and al quaeda is a mere shadow of its former self.


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