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EddyTheDog 11-25-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20647032)
I was making $4k - $5k a month off of blogs alone. These days.... $300 - $400 a month.

However, honestly I do not spend much time working on my blogs. I did this morning, just updated The Titty Ranch | Women With Huge Beautiful Breasts!.

The JuicyAds ads on the left are fucked - Broken images - Nice looking blog though...

Va2k 11-25-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 20647357)
Bingo! Quoted for truth!



Sean and I started our own affiliate network called RevolutionForce.com. Hit me up and I'll hook you up with our best offers. We've got some good stuff you can promote on your new charlie sheen site (both adult & mainstream).

Hey Meloman I would love to give you all a try..

xxxjay 11-25-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 20647357)
Bingo! Quoted for truth!



Sean and I started our own affiliate network called RevolutionForce.com. Hit me up and I'll hook you up with our best offers. We've got some good stuff you can promote on your new charlie sheen site (both adult & mainstream).

Is that traffic network thing?

clickity click 11-25-2015 03:54 PM

I earn REAL MONEY but it's stuck in my Paxum account and I don't know how to draw it.

I will sell said Paxum account for £500 Bitcoin.

Think there is about £330 in it at the moment. Obviously you would also get all future payments.

BlackCrayon 11-25-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20647232)
I know a dozen or so affiliates making 100k+ a month (profit) A few much more. There are obviously a lot more than that (plus TONS making a decent living but not at that level) thats just the ones I know / work with etc who's revenue I can confirm.

More money is being made now than ever before. Just in different ways, by a smaller number of people. In 97-2003 I knew a bunch of people making really good money with little effort (most were lucky, a few were smart and good at what they did) Times have changed and the the game has thinned out and left the best marketeers still around and doing well. I think a lot of the ones who saw their $$ dry up and just can't believe anyone is making money anymore are part of that group who were more luck than skill. The days of just being able to copy what you saw someone else do and being able to make that work are, for the most part, gone. There is a shit ton of $$$ being made by affiliates , but definitely LESS affiliates out there.

My experience and opinion anyway

i'm sure there are but if i was an affiliate making that much i wouldn't stick to promoting someone elses program making them rich, i'd make my own program. how many years did it take these people to get the level of making 100k a month? perhaps im cynical but judging from sites out there these days you either have to deceive people, install things on their computer, do mailing etc to make that kind of money.

Nicky 11-25-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20647446)
I earn REAL MONEY but it's stuck in my Paxum account and I don't know how to draw it.

I will sell said Paxum account for £500 Bitcoin.

Think there is about £330 in it at the moment. Obviously you would also get all future payments.

Just get someone to trade it to paypal for you...

Meloman 11-25-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20647438)
Is that traffic network thing?

Nope. we're an Affiliate Network.

TrafficNetworks / AdNetworks sell traffic. Think TrafficJunky

Affiliate Networks are basically an alternate to affiliate programs. Affiliate Networks have offers from multiple affiliate programs under 1 roof with special payouts. For example we have an offer that is $85 PPS but if you were to go direct with the sponsor they start at $55. So without any volume you can start at higher payouts through us rather than direct. Plus we also have a bunch of exclusive brands not found elsewhere. Our main focus is Adult Dating PPL offers.

Jay, remember how many dozens of programs you had to login into to check stats on jays-xxx-links. And what a pain it must have been to stay on top receiving payouts. Now imagine if you could promote all that under 1 roof and get 1 check. And only when you can get a better payout rate direct do you go direct. Much easier to test on an affiliate network first and when something works then see if it's worth going direct.

clickity click 11-25-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 20647500)
Just get someone to trade it to paypal for you...

Does anyone want a paxum account with about£300 in it + future revenue? PayPal only
£500.

Proof can be provided.

Meloman 11-25-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20647488)
i'm sure there are but if i was an affiliate making that much i wouldn't stick to promoting someone elses program making them rich, i'd make my own program. how many years did it take these people to get the level of making 100k a month? perhaps im cynical but judging from sites out there these days you either have to deceive people, install things on their computer, do mailing etc to make that kind of money.

I agree that it's good to build your own product but sometimes it's just easier to promote others people's stuff. It's not like anyone can just build an AdultFriendFinder or successfull BangBro's overnight and be guaranteed its converts / earns just as well.

So if you're doing $100K month as an affiliate you're going to have to take a huge hit while you tweak your own product to profitability (if u ever do. the product could flop). Some people say fuck that I'll just keep sending as an affiliate. Less headache.

xxxjay 11-25-2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 20647505)
Nope. we're an Affiliate Network.

TrafficNetworks / AdNetworks sell traffic. Think TrafficJunky

Affiliate Networks are basically an alternate to affiliate programs. Affiliate Networks have offers from multiple affiliate programs under 1 roof with special payouts. For example we have an offer that is $85 PPS but if you were to go direct with the sponsor they start at $55. So without any volume you can start at higher payouts through us rather than direct. Plus we also have a bunch of exclusive brands not found elsewhere. Our main focus is Adult Dating PPL offers.

Jay, remember how many dozens of programs you had to login into to check stats on jays-xxx-links. And what a pain it must have been to stay on top receiving payouts. Now imagine if you could promote all that under 1 roof and get 1 check. And only when you can get a better payout rate direct do you go direct. Much easier to test on an affiliate network first and when something works then see if it's worth going direct.

I'll sign up.

mechanicvirus 11-25-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20647232)
I know a dozen or so affiliates making 100k+ a month (profit) A few much more. There are obviously a lot more than that (plus TONS making a decent living but not at that level) thats just the ones I know / work with etc who's revenue I can confirm.

More money is being made now than ever before. Just in different ways, by a smaller number of people. In 97-2003 I knew a bunch of people making really good money with little effort (most were lucky, a few were smart and good at what they did) Times have changed and the the game has thinned out and left the best marketeers still around and doing well. I think a lot of the ones who saw their $$ dry up and just can't believe anyone is making money anymore are part of that group who were more luck than skill. The days of just being able to copy what you saw someone else do and being able to make that work are, for the most part, gone. There is a shit ton of $$$ being made by affiliates , but definitely LESS affiliates out there.

My experience and opinion anyway

That's quite impressive that there's still affiliates left doing six figures a month, definitely gives people hope. I agree that it looks like there's much less affiliates these days which means those who stick it out get a bigger piece of the pie if they play their cards right. I noticed paysite sales decline, but things like webcams are on the up and up. Now if only I could send my traffic to better converting sites.

anexsia 11-25-2015 06:08 PM

There's plenty of ways to make money as an affiliate but you have to actually put in work

$5 submissions 11-25-2015 06:21 PM

It depends on your EXIT STRATEGY.

Other webmasters prefer creating sites that make around $250 a month and flip them quickly at Flippa for $2500 to $5000 and rinse and repeat

This used to be a hassle because it had to be done manually to avoid the spammy look of autoblog/autospam curation BS

Now, thanks to current generation content syndication and sniping tools like Sociocaster, it's easy to crank these out.

Kinda like baking hotcakes lol

So, is there money in affiliate marketing? Yes, it depends on your exit strategy.

Barefootsies 11-25-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20646520)
I've been getting my feet wet again and it's been frustrating. When being an affiliate wasn't worth it to me anymore I was still making about $1000 a day (2008'ish) - I miss the heyday 2001-2008 $2.5-5k a day.

You can still do decent numbers ($500/day+) as an affiliate......... mainstream + mailing. I doubt you can in adult.

:2 cents:

mechanicvirus 11-25-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20647605)
You can still do decent numbers ($500/day+) as an affiliate......... mainstream + mailing. I doubt you can in adult.

:2 cents:

Do you suggest people get into mailing if they have large free sites, for extra sales?

The Porn Nerd 11-25-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 20647586)
It depends on your EXIT STRATEGY.

Other webmasters prefer creating sites that make around $250 a month and flip them quickly at Flippa for $2500 to $5000 and rinse and repeat

This used to be a hassle because it had to be done manually to avoid the spammy look of autoblog/autospam curation BS

Now, thanks to current generation content syndication and sniping tools like Sociocaster, it's easy to crank these out.

Kinda like baking hotcakes lol

So, is there money in affiliate marketing? Yes, it depends on your exit strategy.

But how does the site go from $250 to 10x-20x that so it can be flipped?

SIK 11-25-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20647620)
But how does the site go from $250 to 10x-20x that so it can be flipped?

I suppose he means the custom of selling sites for 10x monthly revenue

SIK 11-25-2015 08:11 PM

btw only successful affiliates I know of are doing five figures monthly on cams, pretty sure I don't know ANY affiliate doing that much with paysite sales

mechanicvirus 11-25-2015 09:33 PM

There's quite a few still left but I don't really think they openly admit it.

plaster 11-25-2015 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20647605)
You can still do decent numbers ($500/day+) as an affiliate......... mainstream + mailing. I doubt you can in adult.

:2 cents:

Can you post your own numbers of doing +500 with emails and mainstream?

The Porn Nerd 11-25-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SIK (Post 20647634)
I suppose he means the custom of selling sites for 10x monthly revenue

Makes sense. Thanks. :)

Not a bad business model if you're willing to bust your ass. It's much easier to get to $250-$500 in revenue than it is to get to $2500-$5000.

Tinara 11-25-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58 (Post 20646530)
If you aren't making money then what the fuck are you even doing here? You are just wasting time. If you spend half the time you do on your websites as you guys do GFY then you might actually be able to answer your own question.

And yes, there is money to be made as an affiliate in 2015 but it doesn't fall off of trees. You have to work for that shit.

THIS ...

EXACTLY!

:banana

$5 submissions 11-26-2015 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20647620)
But how does the site go from $250 to 10x-20x that so it can be flipped?

Well, people will buy a site with a nice income growth rate at the $250 range for $2500 to $5000

This is done through viral content (most ethically with links but I'd be lying to you if I didn't tell you that people who push the envelope don't do freebooting) using social media signals detected by tools like sociocaster.

Think of sites like break.com but taking already viral stuff and re-feeding it to the internet to 'surf' on its viral appeal. Kind of like creating break.com-like sites in batches and reselling them over and over again. Also, there are many different verticals. Troll right wing political blogs are especially susceptible to this business model. Again, it's all about build, grow (off viral appeal), sell. Repeat.

Again, to stay ethical you should only do links (since it produces a win/win situation).

$5 submissions 11-26-2015 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20646537)
I busted my balls back then. In that sense, nothing has changed. I've ran through a couple things...

CrakRevue - still testing, seems ok
CJ = total waste
Clickbank - couple sales, not worth time
Amazon - messing with now
Brandedoffer (CPA) - nothing, but haven't sent much traffic
Stememate - decent if marketed properly

I really have no interest in pre-recorded for...that is selling fire in hell.

Majority of my income is client consulting...i have 2 lawyers, 1 finance and 1 plastic surgeon, I get move ripoff reports here and there (but I hate the work) - I know full well they could bounce and I'd be back at zero, so I'm trying to diversify

If anyone has suggestions I will sign up with you code... (no program owner spam please)

CJ has always been a joke... Even when I was banking a 10 to 15% conversion rate off optin mail traffic in 2000-2002.

JPN 11-26-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 20647134)
Strange, they pay me just fine.

They used to...But not now.
I'll post about this in details.

Black All Through 11-26-2015 06:37 AM

Last I looked the checks I cashed in were real ones (nearly all from Canada), real money because the bank took them :)

bmwracer41 11-26-2015 07:14 AM

Affiliates
 
Guys / Gals

Their is money being an affiliate, yes Traffic is important for that speciific niche. I have Trans500.com obviously a TS Site

I can tell you, I have multi niche sites like PornHub and Xhamster converting around 1:1100 and individual TS Sites run by individuals converting 1:300 - 1:600

Our type in Traffic is around 1:245

Point is, we are cutting monthly checks to some for $ 100 and others $ 500, $ 1000 and more

So yes their is still money to be made

My affiliate program is TransDollars.com , give it a try

Thanks

tossi-c 11-26-2015 07:54 AM

There is no money in adult (c)

JA$ON 11-26-2015 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20647488)
i'm sure there are but if i was an affiliate making that much i wouldn't stick to promoting someone elses program making them rich, i'd make my own program. how many years did it take these people to get the level of making 100k a month? perhaps im cynical but judging from sites out there these days you either have to deceive people, install things on their computer, do mailing etc to make that kind of money.

People always say that when they see a big affiliate. Why not promote your own program! I think in some cases your right, but in most, it just doesnt make sense. First, in cases of Cams / Dating, building a successful program can take millions of dollars, time resources and the chance that you will be able to build one that converts / retains as well as the one you are promoting as an affiliate are slim to none. There are a small hand full of successful cam programs, there is a reason.

Also, as an affiliate doing 100, 200, 500+ joins a day.....you need to have the ability to promote multiple offers. VERY rarely do you see someone at that level sending all their joins to one place (Cams being the exception sometimes) If you started your own and tried to send 100% of the traffic their you loose the edge your competition has.

If you can be an affiliate as a one man show, or a small group and make a few million a year with little to no overhead then dumping millions, hiring people, getting processing etc etc to make an additional 20% (Im ballparking how much more you would make off of a join if you owned the program) is a huge risk. Affiliates get 50%-70% of the join value without having to take on any risk or overhead. And in cases of PPL/PPS, they get it on DAY 1, where the program needs to wait 6-9 months to recover that $ and get into the black.

There is a reason almost every whale (xxx joins a day+) continues to do so as an affiliate and doesnt start a program to send all their traffic to. It might make sense if you do 50 joins a day to a small paysite niche, then I can see it making sense because you could build and run a single site without to much effort or expense.

JA$ON 11-26-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 20647573)
That's quite impressive that there's still affiliates left doing six figures a month, definitely gives people hope. I agree that it looks like there's much less affiliates these days which means those who stick it out get a bigger piece of the pie if they play their cards right. I noticed paysite sales decline, but things like webcams are on the up and up. Now if only I could send my traffic to better converting sites.

There are cams/dating affiliates out there doing 100, 500, 1000+ sales a day. But in my experience, anyone doing REAL volume these days fits into one of 3 categories....

Mailing, Media Buying (a small hand full of guys at that level though) and Chat / SN Spam


Im sure there are others doing thats kind of volume in other ways, just not anyone I know

Shadexpwn 11-26-2015 09:35 AM

Just sitting there won't make you anything unless you know what you're doing.

Automation is key to success, the earlier you do it the faster & easier it gets.

I didn't know fake money existed selling porn.

MrDeiz 11-26-2015 09:48 AM

porn is dead. move on

Ross 11-26-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus (Post 20647573)
That's quite impressive that there's still affiliates left doing six figures a month, definitely gives people hope. I agree that it looks like there's much less affiliates these days which means those who stick it out get a bigger piece of the pie if they play their cards right. I noticed paysite sales decline, but things like webcams are on the up and up. Now if only I could send my traffic to better converting sites.

There aren't much less affiliates, you are just not seeing them because they are not posting on adult forums. The business changed, mainstream affiliates moved into Adult, they do not come here to post, they probably read a lot but never post. There are 2-4 really good private forums where these guys post on and share tips, you have to pay monthly to be a member and in some cases, have references.

These forums are so popular that they even throw their own industry conferences that are attended by 1000+ people.

Look at this thread, Revolution Force have come up this year with their own CPA network because of the demand for systems like this, they are doing great in a short space of time. There are many more CPA networks too, these guys aren't flourishing because their are less affiliates, they are flourishing because the guys making money are used to busting their ass 12 hours a day and not used to the golden days of adult when you worked for 2 hours and made thousands per month very easily.

Modern day affiliates will work 90 hours a week, build teams who think like them, partner up with other successful affiliates to create "masterminds" and attack hard.

SomeCreep 11-26-2015 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DarSco (Post 20646247)
is anyone?

Just the tubes.

SomeCreep 11-26-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20646520)
I've been getting my feet wet again and it's been frustrating. When being an affiliate wasn't worth it to me anymore I was still making about $1000 a day (2008'ish) - I miss the heyday 2001-2008 $2.5-5k a day.

Fucking tubes and shit traffic brokers.

How's your stock portfolio doing?

NickBaer 11-26-2015 10:53 AM

It helps to diversify. Being a studio to earn from content creation and sales, and to earn as an Affiliate of other programs that represent niches I cannot do, due to time, geography, cash. Can't be everything to everyone, at any one moment in time.

As an Affiliate, I like CCBill programs, because earnings are aggregated across all of the programs I sign up for, with $25 threshold for check payment. Maybe there are similar aggregating processors. I really don't like Programs that bill themselves, and individually have $100 thresholds And then don't pay.

As a performer, I like Chaturbate, with its new responsive payout program. Chaturbate Couples, Women, Men.

Best-In-BC 11-26-2015 11:22 AM

You gotta run ton of websites in adult to make money

LotzaDollars 11-26-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 20646537)
I busted my balls back then. In that sense, nothing has changed. I've ran through a couple things...

CrakRevue - still testing, seems ok
CJ = total waste
Clickbank - couple sales, not worth time
Amazon - messing with now
Brandedoffer (CPA) - nothing, but haven't sent much traffic
Stememate - decent if marketed properly

I really have no interest in pre-recorded for...that is selling fire in hell.

Majority of my income is client consulting...i have 2 lawyers, 1 finance and 1 plastic surgeon, I get move ripoff reports here and there (but I hate the work) - I know full well they could bounce and I'd be back at zero, so I'm trying to diversify

If anyone has suggestions I will sign up with you code... (no program owner spam please)

Ok, no spam. Check it out. New all exclusive gay program. go for it! GuyDollars!

beavr 11-26-2015 01:27 PM

Is it like some sort of a spook, some few have seen it while others have to believe?

fuzebox 11-26-2015 02:18 PM

Every time I want to post something in this thread, JA$ON posts exactly what I was going to say.

Truth and knowledge bombs all over this thread :thumbsup


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