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2MuchMark 01-06-2016 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20691151)
OK, so your truly are that stupid. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

An NFA Trust DOES NOT allow a prohibited person to legally own or possess a firearm. Only an ignorant fuck would think that.

Why so upset? Did I strike a nerve?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/us...-firearms.html

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A growing number of shooting enthusiasts are creating legal trusts to acquire machine guns, silencers or other items whose sale is restricted by federal law — a mechanism that bypasses the need to obtain law enforcement approval or even undergo criminal background checks.

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20691151)
FYI idiot...I own a website that sells NFA Trusts through a partnership with an attorney. I have also written multiple articles about them.

The Trust is ONE of the Loopholes.

I would like to read some of your articles - please post links.

L-Pink 01-06-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20691378)
Why so upset? Did I strike a nerve?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/us...-firearms.html






The Trust is ONE of the Loopholes.

I would like to read some of your articles - please post links.


A loophole? ... How about a way for law abiding citizens to comply with existing laws.


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2MuchMark 01-06-2016 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 20691374)
Robbie clearly gets it. If you disagree with him then you're either not an American or you're a traitor. There is no in-between.

WOW.

You know what? Ignore my last post good buddy. I am definitely not an American, but I'm no traitor either. Regardless, I'm pretty sure you want nothing at all to do with me or at the very least, will ignore any idea on the subject, so just forget I even exist please. Better yet, just add me to your ignore list.

Peace.

2MuchMark 01-06-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20691381)
A loophole? ... How about a way for law abiding citizens to comply with existing laws.


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But of course.. ! Can't law abiding citizens do this already?

dyna mo 01-06-2016 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20691127)
You mean "working" as in not costing a fortune?

Link 'em up bro. I'd like some good news. :)

Robbie, i haven't fully digested these articles, but here are some that suggest Obamacare is working in California.

food for thought.

Obamacare works in California. Here's why. - LA Times

Obamacare is (still) working: California puts the lie to right-wing horror stories - Salon.com

California Obamacare

The Latest From California: Obamacare is Working | Mother Jones

ObamaCare works | TheHill

http://sph.berkeley.edu/obamacare-wo...rnia-heres-why

AaronM 01-06-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20691382)
WOW.

You know what? Ignore my last post good buddy. I am definitely not an American, but I'm no traitor either. Regardless, I'm pretty sure you want nothing at all to do with me or at the very least, will ignore any idea on the subject, so just forget I even exist please. Better yet, just add me to your ignore list.

Peace.


When you become an American Citizen, have 2 Type 7 FFLs, 2 Class II SOTs, are the webmaster for one of the Nations most successful gun lobbies, own an NFA Trust website that has partnered with a firearms attorney, write for multiple gun blogs and have logged over 100 hours sitting in ATF seminars....Let me know. Until then, you have a LONG way to go before you can debate these laws with me.

Wanna get started? I have an extra SHOT Show pass and will be happy to walk you to the ATF's booth (holding your hand so you don't get shot by all the scary guns along the way) where you can ask them if a felon is legally allowed to possess an NFA item through a trust. Feel free to also ask them about all these other so called "loopholes" while you're at it. This is a serious offer. SHOT Show is Jan. 19-22 in Vegas. Put up, or STFU.

Robbie 01-06-2016 04:45 PM

@dynamo

Amid slower growth, California's Obamacare exchange cuts proposed spending - LA Times

I guess that one billion dollars is part of the "not one thin dime" that President Obama claimed that Obamacare wouldn't cost taxpayers :(

dyna mo 01-06-2016 04:47 PM

http://i.imgur.com/k3lB6dw.jpg

dyna mo 01-06-2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20691417)
@dynamo

Amid slower growth, California's Obamacare exchange cuts proposed spending - LA Times

I guess that one billion dollars is part of the "not one thin dime" that President Obama claimed that Obamacare wouldn't cost taxpayers :(

that's not one of the articles i linked! :1orglaugh

either way, not claiming to understand AHA, , just claiming i came across several viewpoints that suggested it's working here, food for thought. again, as i stated, i'm not a fan of the entire AHA, but i'm interested in seeing what parts of it work and which parts do not.

Robbie 01-06-2016 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20691431)
that's not one of the articles i linked! :1orglaugh

either way, not claiming to understand AHA, , just claiming i came across several viewpoints that suggested it's working here, food for thought. again, as i stated, i'm not a fan of the entire AHA, but i'm interested in seeing what parts of it work and which parts do not.

From what I understand the whole thing is financially in trouble.

I was kind of astounded when he made that the first thing on his list when he took office.
The country was on the verge of economic collapse, people had no jobs, homes were being foreclosed on, Social Security isn't exactly financially stable, and he actually campaigned on how "un-American" it was for Bush to run up the national debt!
And then he adds a giant bureaucracy that is in control of 1/3 of the nation's economy and forced people to pay for insurance who didn't even need it (like young and healthy people). :(

Just didn't add up to me how a govt. that is already debt-ridden could spend even more money like this.

But if you recall...he sold us a bill of goods on how it was going to actually DECREASE the Federal deficit and DECREASE every family's insurance bill by $2,500 a year.

Nope...

dyna mo 01-06-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20691456)
From what I understand the whole thing is financially in trouble.

I was kind of astounded when he made that the first thing on his list when he took office.
The country was on the verge of economic collapse, people had no jobs, homes were being foreclosed on, Social Security isn't exactly financially stable, and he actually campaigned on how "un-American" it was for Bush to run up the national debt!
And then he adds a giant bureaucracy that is in control of 1/3 of the nation's economy and forced people to pay for insurance who didn't even need it (like young and healthy people). :(

Just didn't add up to me how a govt. that is already debt-ridden could spend even more money like this.

But if you recall...he sold us a bill of goods on how it was going to actually DECREASE the Federal deficit and DECREASE every family's insurance bill by $2,500 a year.

Nope...

i think he had his mind made up upon entering office that his #1 deal would be healthcare reform, so yes, it was a mistake for him to not back-burner it when 2008 happened. nevertheless, we did and do need reform, certainly he was genuine in wanting and trying to get a better system, but he's really a junior politician when you think about it. well, was then. but if we're going to repeal it change it whatever the next pres says it is, we can glean some things out of it. i want to think single-payer is a better way, but many think that's too socialists, too expensive.

Robbie 01-06-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20691472)
i want to think single-payer is a better way, but many think that's too socialists, too expensive.

One thing is for sure, we need to pay off the national debt ASAP.

Get out of the business of war and military and get people back to work. Once the debt is paid, THEN we can think about taxing ourselves to pay for other people to go to the doctor.

Or maybe, just maybe we could get the economy kicking enough ass that people could take care of themselves again. :)

kane 01-07-2016 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20691047)
Terrible law that was passed through the Senate via a trick of legislation called the "Reconciliation Rule" (they were lacking one vote because of the death of Ted Kennedy),and of course as Nancy Pelosi so famously told the world...nobody had even READ it when they voted it in.

Funny thing is...if THAT is his legacy he is in a lot of trouble.

Number one, it's falling apart financially. Number two, it has driven health care cost up exponentially.
And most importantly...if the next President is a Republican, it will be repealed and thrown on the trash heap of history.

THEN we will see Mr. Obama shed some REAL tears. :1orglaugh

I agree that it a law that has some serious flaws and it has run into some problems, but I'm not so sure a republican president would just repeal it.

A little while back I read an article that talked about how many of he republican leaders feel like they can't just repeal it because there are now several million people who have health insurance that didn't have it before Obamacare and they would lose their coverage. Those people would likely be angry and could show their anger by voting democrat. Most of the republican candidates seem to be saying "repeal and replace" I guess it will all come down to what that replacement is.

ArtificialTraffic 01-07-2016 04:30 AM

Awful acting by this miserable actor.

JJ Gold 01-07-2016 05:34 AM

I was in Whole Foods yesterday talking on the phone. You should have seen the looks of shock and dismay I received.

"Of course he should be impeached. It is a sign of utter weakness. Men do not cry. I guarantee you Trump wouldn't cry. Obama is revealing his true self. He is 2 steps away from swishing around in a dress like that sissy son of the Fresh Prince. Impeach his ass now. That will give him something to cry about".

L-Pink 01-07-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Gold (Post 20692021)
I was in Whole Foods yesterday talking on the phone. You should have seen the looks of shock and dismay I received.

"Of course he should be impeached. It is a sign of utter weakness. Men do not cry. I guarantee you Trump wouldn't cry. Obama is revealing his true self. He is 2 steps away from swishing around in a dress like that sissy son of the Fresh Prince. Impeach his ass now. That will give him something to cry about".


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nico-t 01-07-2016 09:23 AM

i find it funny how you can see the party politics oozing through everyones comments.

Wake up, every president is executing the same agenda no matter what fake party they represent. I don't blame you for not seeing that since the vast majority of people has been brainwashed since birth into believing that it does matter.

nico-t 01-07-2016 09:26 AM

btw does he cry as well because of all the children in the middle east being bombed to tiny bits?


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