Man made or Nature. It kills. Air pollution illnesses.

Ignore that though. What is your Government doing to protect you from rising seas, food scarcity, etc?

NASA, NOAA Analyses Reveal Record-Shattering Global Temperatures | NASA

The polar caps will melt at a 3 degree rise. We have been there. No people existed but we were there.

I am constantly amazed that you think it is fake since the govt isn't stopping it. From your stance on other stuff I always find this bit more then odd.

poor ********** soiling himself with another liberal whining thread about global warming caused by el nino.

regardless that nobody has any idea how or why el ninos form. Its just this giant input of heat that causes dumb liberals to blame people for the hot air. didnt markprice say we are making the el nino warming worse in this thread? no proof at all of this. nothing from NASA. just **********, winging it.

doesnt matter. Mankind follows the laws of darwin. & when hurricane katrina happened, it shows a microcosm of how life evolves. dumb people live where its not viable. they die, or move. Now the residents left in New Orleans are stronger. Next round, the weakest will get pared again.

this process is what makes the human race gradually stronger. the smart ones survive, the dumbasses die. & this is why global warming FEARS are the hoax, not the man-made warming part.

we will warm the earth, & everything will be fine. The liberal urban hipster **********s will get slaughtered one day when their city is shut down by floods. But the strong will survive.

:)

You are deluded, misinformed and gullible. Do you write for the Guardian?

Poor manty. We never even knew ye.


Maybe when reality starts to match their scary projections. The fact is their projections and predictions have all been wrong. How much snake oil do you want to buy before you catch on?


Go for it. You start.


Not sure what it is that you are "just sayin".


Please supply exact figures on how many people die each year directly from increased CO2 and/or temperature.

You sound overly reliant on government. Do you need them to wipe your ass too?

A great leader once said - "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." You are the opposite of that.

Meanwhile, my government is taxing the shit out of everything, increasing the cost of everything, building debt loads that will cripple every future generation and reducing the temperature of the planet by exactly 0 degrees.


3 degrees? Data please. The Eemian interglacial was a couple degrees warmer than now and the ice caps survived just fine.

The rest of what you said makes no sense whatsoever.



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Come on robby, don't pussy-out. We're having a discussion. Please stay on-topic and lets discuss 1 item at a time. I promise we will get to other topics. For now, I am trying to establish a base of things we can agree on.

My last question to you was:


do you agree?

99.99% of people would die if they had to fend for themselves. Even bullets run out and that's assuming there's enough wildlife to keep people fed who are used to eating at a MacBurger's.

Thinking what's coming will be like Katrina shows a lack of knowledge.

Evolution laws cover extinction.

Joshua, what I'm trying to do is talk about the science of it. I know it might be difficult, but lets leave politics out of it for the time being, and concentrate the conversation on the very basics first.


No, El Niño is a naturally occurring event in the equatorial region which causes temporary changes in the world climate. Originally, El Niño was the name used for warmer than normal sea surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of South America. What Is El Niño?



NASA: Worst of El Nino Still to Come. With Climate Change in the Mix, 2015-2016 Event May Equal Most Devastating On Record | robertscribbler

Global Warming May Worsen Effects of El Niño, La Niña Events | Climate Central

News | NASA Studying 2015 El Niño Event As Never Before

https://sealevel.jpl.nasa.gov/scienc...do/latestdata/


Where do you live?


People who sit and wait for things instead of taking action usually die off faster too.

Of course the strong will survive. The only problem with that is that the world we survive it might not be a beautiful. The air and water might not be as clean, and food might not be as abundant. Oh and millions more people may starve to death, not to mention animals and sea life. But hey, as long as you Joshua are alive that's all that matters, right? peace.

Show me facts that show the Earth isn't getting warmer.

It's a slow process.

Your turn to show facts.

Like you I rely on shops having food.

Can you build the necessary dikes and levies to protect your home. Or when food gets short protect you from better-armed gangs?

So all this is about is you getting more money to spend. OK, I see where you're coming from.

I don't think Governments can stop anything. They can't stop air pollution, global warming or any natural disaster. I expect them to have a plan on what happens when the climate changes, as it is. And they don't have a clue.

Show me were I ever said it isn't getting warmer.



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It's been a fairly mild winter here in Winnipeg, a place widely known for it's often brutal winters.

Score one for El Niño!

Yes, so slow that they can over-hype it for decades before being proven wrong about it.


None of that has to do with CO2 or temperature. CO2 is not air pollution in the sense you are thinking. It is not air pollution at all. It is a life giving gas that is necessary and vital to life on earth.


People don't have to live on flood plains anymore.

Better armed gangs? What is this the Walking Dead? If you think a degree or two of warming is the apocalypse then I want some of what you are smoking.


Typical attitude of a leftist. Is it too much too ask for a fiscally responsible government?

The armed gangs you fear will come when society financially collapses because of misguided, bankrupt and corrupt governments. And chances are that the armed gangs will be the government you love so dearly.


Well you got that right. They are spending billions or trillions of dollars trying to "stop" the warming by reducing CO2. That is all money that could be better spent building dikes around your house, keeping food in your shops, protecting you from armed gangs and stopping real environmental damage and pollution.



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Ya exactly. I am not sure what all of these alarmists and doomsayers have against warmth. Warm = good. Cold = bad.



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It is getting warmer, naturally, as it has on and off for a few billion years without us, and it will continue to do the same over long periods of time with us. Do we have an affect on it? sure some, not enough to break it...

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0.85 degrees warmer since the end of the Little Ice Age as the Earth naturally warms back up slightly.

All the rest of this nonsense is gibberish that has no meaning. CO2 is not pollution. Never has been and never will be.

Mankind has not and can not lower the temperatures by ANY degrees at all.

Show me any proof that we are capable of that.
You can't?

That's right. And we can't raise them either. We can't even make it rain...much less change the entire planet on a global scale.

You Alarmists are the perfect target for scam and con artists. You believe anything. Even when reality is staring you right in the face with FACTS:

The Earth warms and cools and has done so since the beginning of the planet.

The little Ice Age ended in the mid 1800's...the Earth naturally is warming back up to where it was.

The ENTIRE global temperature has risen ONLY 0.85 degree Celsius since 1880

And finally...EVERY prediction made by scientists on the payroll of people who profit from scaring the sheep has been 100% WRONG each and EVERY time.

Unbelievable that anyone could even argue this when everything points the other way. I guess that's how a lot of people get taken advantage of by con artists.

Come on Robby, I'm trying to have a nice, calm, intelligent conversation with you. Here is the 3rd time I'm asking this:

Lots of cars = lots of gasses going into the air, right? Do you agree, or do you disagree? Simple question my friend... Let's work on the basic agreements first and then I promise we can talk about the other points you bring up.

Here's just a few. Simply look it up.

The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

NOAA 'adjusts' global warming data the same way the Fed and BLS 'revise' economic data

NOAA/NASA Dramatically Altered US Temperatures After The Year 2000

Dishonest global warming reports are good, as long as they promote certain agenda, paper says

DOOM & GLOOM CLIMATE FRAUDSTERS EXPOSED


And on and on....

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That kind of stuff gives them a severe case of cognitive dissonance. And then they resort to this:

http://i.imgur.com/B5D6n0h.jpg



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There are no "other points". Cars emissions are the cleanest in history. Our air is cleaner than at any time since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

You are talking nonsense. The military and the Govt. have the biggest "carbon footprint" in the world. Not the people.

WE shouldn't be punished for their made up nonsense while THEY hypocritically do what they say is "bad" in a manner that is exponentially higher than the entire population.

Wake up Mark, you're being suckered.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh where have you been?

100..... That is going to be the average world temp in a few years HAHA

Hey Robbie, good news. I give up. I won't waste your time any more. Peace man..

Good idea on this topic Mark, it's truly a waste of time for you and me.

You can say that again.

I was in Antarctica checking on the ice.

It's still there.



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Oh, oh. Looks like some scientists have decided to go off-script:

Scientists attribute rising methane levels to agriculture

Better send the brown shirts over to get them back in line.



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Every time scientists discover that the Earth is adapting and changing...the Alarmists will quickly pay some new scientists to "debunk" the finding and get back to spouting gloom and doom.

That article is an excellent example of "settled science" NOT being settled.

Reminds me of how science was once "settled" that the Earth was flat and was the center of the universe.

Alarmists are still using the old "Garbage-In-Garbage-Out" computer models from almost 20 years ago.

this year we have El Nino which makes everything warmer. It was expected to have a warm Winter due to El Nino.

If this were true. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html

The Antarctic and Artic, and the Glaciers would all be expanding. Instead of shrinking.

Say "Hi" to Oboma for us!! WB:thumbsup

Ya, you'd think so.

Mass gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet greater than losses, NASA study reports

Why Asia's Glaciers Are Mysteriously Expanding, Not Melting



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do not confuse this with fact, fucks up the whole swing?

You're trying to educate people who are relying on 20 year old computer models that have already been shown to be wrong.

Don't waste your breath. Prince and Markham are 2 of a kind.

True. And I admit it is largely a waste of time. Leftists cannot be reasoned with. That's why when they gather into large groups destruction and violence always follows.

I'll just leave this here for anyone, including the resident alarmists, looking for some weekend reading:

What I Learned about Climate Change: The Science is not Settled



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nothing shows the the world you are free man and free thinker buy regurgitating the talking points of astro turf think tanks and paid off scientists.

damn that is almost up there with socrates and luther.

nothing shows the the[sic] world you are a caged man and group-thinker buy[sic] regurgitating the marching orders and propaganda of leftist NGO's and their bought out governments.

damn that is almost right up there with Goebbels and Stalin.



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