ding ding ding. I was a big fan of Elon until I discovered how much they fucking whore from the government.

holy crap.

Take it easy, now... don't get yourself all upset.

You DO have something to prove, thats MY point. :) Not only to me, but to everyone reading this thread. You made a proclamation. You said "heads up: Tesla will fail.". Then you provided 7 reasons why, without any proof whatsoever.

Your "expert" opinion is that Tesla will fail. Shouldn't I or anyone else get to ask what makes you an Expert and why stockholders shouldn't unload right now?

The point of any thread is usually the title. If "Tesla will fail" is not your point, then what is your point?



Your rate of "proof" so far is barely 14.2%. Why not prove the rest and bring this up to 100% ?

Well sorry dude, but yeah of course I want them to succeed. The guy makes killer products that I as a consumer, really want to have but that is beside the point. You made a claim, and I'm asking you for proof. Why are you being so defensive?


Here's your problem Dynamo. You have created an opinion, and then somehow turned your opinion into "fact" in your own mind. Your opinion says they have lots of obstacles to overcome, and you have made up your mind that they are doomed to fail.Right?

Here's an idea for you. You like to quote scientific text here on GFY, and you seem to care enough about clean energy to install solar panels on your roof as you once claimed. So instead of throwing in the towel for Tesla, why not be constructive? Why not start a constructive conversation about what those problems you claim they have might be, and use your scientific noggin to discuss possible solutions?


There's no roundabout. I asked you several times now to post links that prop-up your opinion. So far I've seen only 1.

Okey-dokey?

you seem to think having an opinion on something means having to prove it to you.

that's funny. not funny hahah funny.

what's weird about ********** is he'd rather argue about proving me wrong rather than actually participate in dialogue about those easily googled issues that Tesla must overcome.

it's too bad for him.

yeah, i think Tesla has a long way to go and a short time to get there, for people interested in that journey, i posted 7 angles to discuss about it, mark chooses to try and bicker like a girlfriend upset over my view of a superhero movie.

i've often wondered how Elon Musk manages his time being CEO of Tesla, Product architect of Tesla, CEO of Space X, and CTO of Space X.

maybe MWF at Tesla, mornings do CEO stuff, afternoon product architecting, and TThSa running Space X, afternoon for CEO and morning doing CTO?

Either way, morals aside, he's a genius businessman and marketer.

8 years sounds reasonable. I am on record here as saying Apple would be gone in 5. That was last year.

I've eaten an apple in 5, it's very possible.

Meanwhile, scaling up production on a concept car from 0 to 400000 in 2 years that requires the entire planets lithium supply is an entirely different matter.

They don't even have a working prototype, combined with the issues I listed, combined with a part time ceo/product architect.

So to clarify: Your "heads up: Tesla will fail." OP is your Opinion, not an educated prediction. Got it.

You still have not posted any links to base your opinion on. So with that in mind, I'll stick to my original reply and say I that, in my opinion, that you are wrong on everything. Based on their track record I think the company will continue to do very well and produce more and more amazing products for years to come.

All I did was ask you for links to the source of your information or opinions. I asked you easily 5 times now and you still can't come up with them. Why not?

But dynamo, these are YOUR opinions! :) In post #8 you said you had done your research. Why not share your research with us if it exists to further solidify your opinion?


I'm not bickering with you ol' chum (and I'm not picking on you or calling you names either). I'm only asking, for the 6th time now, to kindly, please, show me links to research articles that backup the claims you are making. How hard can that be?

There are alternatives to Lithium-ion today such as Aluminium-ion, but who says as advancements in technologies come around, that any factory including the gigafactory couldn't adapt?

Regardless, I think its cool that people like Musk are taking such big gambles towards changing how we use energy. In my opinion, the world needs more people like Musk, and less armchair old-farts that do nothing.

Live long and Prosper.

settle down mark. you aren't grasping the point of the thread. i've told you what it is and you're reaction to that was to nitpick the title.

the thread is a thought-provoking topic on the hurdles Tesla needs to overcome to succeed. you want to make it about me needing to prove to you why i have an opinion on something that doesn't match your's. that's silly.

thought-provoking. this isn't about me, or me being wrong, you can try and make it that way, or you can think like elon musk thinks and discuss the issues that stand in the way of success.

"I have OCD on product-related issues, I always see what's ... wrong. Would you want that? When I see a car or a rocket or spacecraft, I only see what's wrong."

I never see what's right."

-elon musk

Take it easy, Dynao. I can see you are getting extremely upset for no reason.

Your OP is thought provoking. My first thought was "where is he getting his info from?".

No links, no proof, no basis.

Have some nice tits - you will feel better.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVMKzByCEAA7H5c.jpg

i feel fine, mark, you're clearly the one disquieted by this thread not coddling you.

you know what would have been cool, mark?

if you had posted *7 reasons why Tesla will succeed* instead of trying to make this a me v you someone's right and someone's wrong arguement while you sit back cross armed and demand i prove to you my opinion to the point where you agree with me, which is entirely beside the point and this is teh GFY, that shit doesn't happen here, GFYers don't change their minds. i certainly didn't start this thread to change anybody's mind, i know better.

Tesla's Model 3 Will Fail In India - Tesla Motors (NASDAQ:TSLA)

At the Model 3 launch, Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced the car will also be sold in India, which will be a huge EV market going forward.

re: EV competition

Tesla Model 3 Faces Tough Competition in These 8 Slick EVs

Tesla production and manufacturing problems:


"The continuing evidence of execution problems has left lingering doubts over the company as it prepares for the all-important introduction of the Model 3, which is due for launch late next year."

https://www.google.com/search?q=tesl...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Chanos got China right. Now he's betting against Elon Musk - Oct. 8, 2015


While he called Musk's Tesla (TSLA) cars a "great product," Chanos worries the electric car maker will always be a boutique car maker and won't be able to transform into a mass market one.
"To sell millions of cars -- which is where the stock is valued -- they've got a long way to go," Chanos said.
He also knocked SolarCity (SCTY), the renewable energy company Musk co-founded.
"It's really nothing more than a consumer finance company -- and it's not a particularly good one," Chanos said.

mark prince puts a lot of effort into being ignorant.

:2 cents:

100 threads that show mark prince judges first, checks facts second...i mean, not at all.

:)

seems.

meanwhile he put a lot of effort into this thread- demanding i provide him links so he can validate my opinion, like 12-15 posts about that, ignoring links provided then disappearing when more links were posted.