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12clicks 05-25-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20916890)
But... There is a catch with this. What charities did he give to?

My kid's sports league is a non profit, which means donations are tax deductible. So any fees I pay to the league are in fact tax deductible. $600 for a new uniform? Sure, "no problem". (Damn kids are expensive.)

My point isn't that Romney did wrong; I am just not caring. Our tax system is so freaking stupid.

And in the case of Trump, you know damn well he was overly aggressive with his taxes and when it comes out it will look bad. And it will come out, a little at a time.

There's no catch except the ones created by the media and eaten up by the rabble.
Romney gave money to his church and other charities everyone else gives to. He just gave considerably more.

which is why Trump would be wise to not release his tax returns. Every one of his deductions will be called a loophole and the rabble will eat it up.

Rochard 05-25-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20918411)
he stated he never received inheritance from his parents, but he did, and donated the money to a school that had his fathers name.. and either clarified about not using money from his parents etc

Romney is a strange part of american politics.. for example, obamacare is basically the same thing that Romney suggested.. what was called 'Romney Care' at the time

Trump not only got an inheritance, he also got entire projects funded by his parents. If I recall correctly there was multiple real estate investments while he was still in college. They were apartment complexes or condo units; His parents bought them for him, paid for the repairs and upgrades, and he sold them and made a nice profit.

You can't say he is a good business man. His parents helped him make hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions before he was legal drinking age - and that was back in the late 1970s. His parents gave him the initial investments, helped him make tons of money, and gave him the contacts to do more of the same. Then with the inheritance he was set for life. He couldn't really fail, yet he did - multiple times. Trump has been through bankruptcies four times. With other projects when he fails, he doesn't lose money - his investors do.

Joshua G 05-25-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20918861)
You can't say he is a good business man. His parents helped him make hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions before he was legal drinking age - and that was back in the late 1970s. His parents gave him the initial investments, helped him make tons of money, and gave him the contacts to do more of the same. Then with the inheritance he was set for life. He couldn't really fail, yet he did - multiple times. Trump has been through bankruptcies four times. With other projects when he fails, he doesn't lose money - his investors do.

so according to rochard science, tiger woods was never a good golfer. his dad set him up with everything. money to pay for clubs membership fees, gave his son lessons, guidance...what a terrible thing that parents help their kid get a step up in life.

your so stupid. why do i bother with you. :mad:

Rochard 05-25-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20918573)
There's no catch except the ones created by the media and eaten up by the rabble.
Romney gave money to his church and other charities everyone else gives to. He just gave considerably more.

which is why Trump would be wise to not release his tax returns. Every one of his deductions will be called a loophole and the rabble will eat it up.

If I recall correctly (and I say this a lot on GFY)... Romney gave A LOT of money to his church and various other charities.

And this is exactly why Trump won't release his tax forms. Most likely he hasn't donated anything.

Trump claims "He supports veterans" but yet.... I don't see this. Ten years ago before he stared running for office, did he attend a single funeral for for a service member that died in combat? Did he donate any money? Hold any charity events? I am guessing no.

On the flip side, did Hillary? I am not saying "Hillary is great" but instead asking a serious question. After leaving the White House and before she became a Senator, did she ever attend a funeral or a charity event for Veterans? I am guessing she didn't either.

Bladewire 05-25-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20918573)
There's no catch except the ones created by the media and eaten up by the rabble.
Romney gave money to his church and other charities everyone else gives to. He just gave considerably more.

which is why Trump would be wise to not release his tax returns. Every one of his deductions will be called a loophole and the rabble will eat it up.

Thankfully Trump isn't wise.

He's backed into a corner.

The common voter relates to taxes & perceived wealth and Trump brags about being rich. Release them, he's bait. Don't release them, he's untrustworthy. Either way his claims of extreme wealth are scrutinized.

Remember that press conference After his Michigan win where he had all the Trump steaks ( defunct - meat was bought from the local butcher ), Trump burgers ( defunct - meat was bought from the local butcher ) , and Trump magazine ( defunct - last issue published in 2009 )? Trump has a serious mental defect and is emotionally unstable.

Every day a new clip is released of Trump the day, year, decade before contradicting himself.

12clicks 05-25-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20919005)
If I recall correctly (and I say this a lot on GFY)... Romney gave A LOT of money to his church and various other charities.

right. making him a very charitable rich guy, not a tax dodger using loop holes as the rabble and press made him out to be.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20919005)
And this is exactly why Trump won't release his tax forms. Most likely he hasn't donated anything.

Trump claims "He supports veterans" but yet.... I don't see this. Ten years ago before he stared running for office, did he attend a single funeral for for a service member that died in combat? Did he donate any money? Hold any charity events? I am guessing no.

so? very very few people will base their vote on that.
Again, its a non issue but as soon as he releases his taxes, all of these non-issues will be shouted from the rooftops to rouse the rabble. By not releasing his taxes, he's allowing the rabble to be roused now, well before the election. making the arousal ineffective.

bronco67 05-25-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20919044)
right. making him a very charitable rich guy, not a tax dodger using loop holes as the rabble and press made him out to be.


so? very very few people will base their vote on that.
Again, its a non issue but as soon as he releases his taxes, all of these non-issues will be shouted from the rooftops to rouse the rabble. By not releasing his taxes, he's allowing the rabble to be roused now, well before the election. making the arousal ineffective.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...eterans-group/

He waited until Corey Lewandowski was grilled on a news program about it, then suddenly donated the money finally. And of course, Mr Lewandowski came off like total dick as he lied and said Trump donated $1million -- a day before he actually gave it.

What a fucking sleaze.

12clicks 05-25-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20919230)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...eterans-group/

He waited until Corey Lewandowski was grilled on a news program about it, then suddenly donated the money finally. And of course, Mr Lewandowski came off like total dick as he lied and said Trump donated $1million -- a day before he actually gave it.

What a fucking sleaze.

Non issue

Bladewire 05-25-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20919308)
Non issue

Trump also said he had never actually promised that the fundraiser had raised $6 million. ?I didn?t say six,? he said.

But, in video of the event, Trump tells the crowd, ?We just cracked $6 million! Right? $6 million."

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Next thing we'll here is "I never said I was worth $10 Billion, it's always been (fill in the blank)"

Rochard 05-25-2016 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20919044)

so? very very few people will base their vote on that.
Again, its a non issue but as soon as he releases his taxes, all of these non-issues will be shouted from the rooftops to rouse the rabble. By not releasing his taxes, he's allowing the rabble to be roused now, well before the election. making the arousal ineffective.

I disagree.... At one point Trump made a big point of saying he supported Veterans. He didn't give a rat's ass about supporting Veterans or anyone in the military until AFTER he became a politician. That's going to be a huge issue for a lot of Vets.

Doesn't matter. Seems Trump has pissed off every other group out there, might as well piss off the Veterans too.

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20918411)
he stated he never received inheritance from his parents, but he did, and donated the money to a school that had his fathers name.. and either clarified about not using money from his parents etc

Romney is a strange part of american politics.. for example, obamacare is basically the same thing that Romney suggested.. what was called 'Romney Care' at the time

He's probably like a lot of businessmen, especially those on the Right. Minimises his taxes legally to the extreme. Then bitches about the debt, the over spending, the State of everything and even the fact that not enough people in the US can buy his products. Taxes keep the money in the system, except with expensive wars and giving big business money to rebuild what big business has destroyed with their bombs.

Taxes go to fund al the projects that employ people. Tax Havens are ways to make sure less are employed in the country big business expects to earn a living from.

As for Healthcare. There's a prime example of how big business tears Americans a new ass on an annual basis.

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20918354)
again, idiot, Romney didn't dodge taxes and neither did Trump.

Avoid or evade?

Comes down to the same thing. They make sure they make their money in a country, they do little to pay for.

They rely on dumb fucks like you to pay the taxes and soak up the debt.

12clicks 05-26-2016 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20920214)
Avoid or evade?

Comes down to the same thing. They make sure they make their money in a country, they do little to pay for.

They rely on dumb fucks like you to pay the taxes and soak up the debt.

no halfwit, avoid and evade are not the same thing unless your the penniless bottom trying to sound like you have a clue.

12clicks 05-26-2016 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20919491)
I disagree.... At one point Trump made a big point of saying he supported Veterans. He didn't give a rat's ass about supporting Veterans or anyone in the military until AFTER he became a politician. That's going to be a huge issue for a lot of Vets.

Doesn't matter. Seems Trump has pissed off every other group out there, might as well piss off the Veterans too.

you're free to disagree. I'm right.

Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin

Rochard 05-26-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20920886)

Seems you do not understand the difference between active duty military and Veterans.

Our military has always leaned Republican. I was too when I was in the military; I was a hardcore Republican. "The Gipper was going to beat the Communists" and all that nonsense.

Rochard 05-26-2016 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20920211)
He's probably like a lot of businessmen, especially those on the Right. Minimises his taxes legally to the extreme.

Most people in the United States do this, if they know how.

The problem is when you are making hundreds of millions of dollars (like Trump claims) and making it look like you are making nothing... I think that should be illegal.

Bladewire 06-01-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20918948)
so according to rochard science, tiger woods was never a good golfer. his dad set him up with everything. money to pay for clubs membership fees, gave his son lessons, guidance...what a terrible thing that parents help their kid get a step up in life.

That analogy doesn't rub right :2 cents:

Rochard 06-01-2016 04:19 PM

Thanks for the bump. I figured out why he doesn't want to release his taxes.

It's simple.

Seems at one point Trump received $150k from a fund to "help small businesses recover from 9/11" in NYC.

Utterly fucking amazing.

And you know that is the tip of the iceburg kids.

Bladewire 06-01-2016 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20934119)
Thanks for the bump. I figured out why he doesn't want to release his taxes.

It's simple.

Seems at one point Trump received $150k from a fund to "help small businesses recover from 9/11" in NYC.

Utterly fucking amazing.

And you know that is the tip of the iceburg kids.

Not surprising great find!

Rochard 06-01-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20934629)
Not surprising great find!

Oh, there is more coming. I said it above in this very thread.

I am not a Hillary supporter. Could care less really. For me it's a matter of "anyone other than Trump".

With that said, we've vetted Hillary. We vetted her when she went to work for the State Department, and before then when she ran for President. Because of the questions about her emails, she has released over fifty thousand emails and to date no one has found anything remotely damaging. Combined with the ten Benghazi investigations.... Hillary Clinton is most likely the most vetted candidate in American history.

Trump is a businessman who doesn't seem to understand how politics works. In the past, Trump could go on Howard Stern and say what he wanted, and Trump could care less what Betty Sue Sutton from Clinton, New Jersey thinks about him. Because it didn't matter what Betty Sue Sutton thought. Trump didn't need to win her over, he only needed to win over a handful of people in the boardroom. Now the question is how many times has Trump been on Howard Stern, and what dumb things did he say? It was a huge deal with Bill Clinton said "He never inhaled"; Imagine what Trump is going to face.

Not to mention Trump has been in court over 3500 times; That's potentially 3500 times he is on record of saying something in a legally binding courtroom.

Right now we are finally discussing Trump University. Trump is trying to play this off like it's no big deal but it is; This is going to trail no matter what.

(imagine what happens when he doesn't win the election.... A huge loss followed by a trial.)

JamesAB 06-01-2016 10:00 PM

Honestly, I'm not crazy about any of the candidates.

I don't get it, however Trump has become a rare phenomenon. He said himself he could kill a guy on 5th Ave in NYC...yet he's on top of the ballot.

His supporters don't care about facts or documents (like his taxes) because they are going to continue to support him as long as he keeps up the same tone in his rhetoric. That's his game and so far it's paid off better than creating a tube site 10 years ago.

This is not an endorsement, I'm just giving him credit for tapping into something a lot of voters have been able to relate to.

baddog 06-01-2016 10:24 PM

Rochard, do you think Trump knows everything that is on his tax return? I kind of trust my tax guy to know what he is doing, so I sign it ... and I buy the audit protection plan for $50, just in case.

Paul Markham 06-02-2016 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20920868)
no halfwit, avoid and evade are not the same thing unless your the penniless bottom trying to sound like you have a clue.

Get back to work, that roof won't repair itself. And you have to make more money to pay the taxes the dodgers don't.

How a working class man can defend tax dodgers amazes me. Shows the power of brainwashing dumb asses.

Paul Markham 06-02-2016 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20920886)

Men who like to fight, support Trump. what can go wrong?

Paul Markham 06-02-2016 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20920982)
Most people in the United States do this, if they know how.

The problem is when you are making hundreds of millions of dollars (like Trump claims) and making it look like you are making nothing... I think that should be illegal.

Shaving a few points off by claiming legit costs. Isn't to be compared with moving all the profits to a foreign country to lumber the rest with paying for the debt created.

Still I can see why they get away with it. When working class people like clunks thinks they're clever.

It's like some think being fucked up the ass, without being asked, makes the fucker clever.


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