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dyna mo 05-24-2016 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20916299)
I think nearly all Presidents go into the situation room not having any real idea of what is going on or how to handle a situation. Can you honestly tell me Obama had a firm grasp of the Jewish / Palestinian situation, and have ideas on how to fix it? Maybe more than you and I, but only barely so.

I think being President of the United States is the most challenging job there is. And just when the President thinks they are doing a good job, something they had no idea existed suddenly pops up and smacks them silly.

Good points rochard.

dyna mo 05-24-2016 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20916428)
It's crystal clear that he will be the catalyst for WWIII were he to be elected.

I don't say that in a partisan way.

I've never researched a candidate and seen so much blantant lying and corruption as I have with Trump. Not paying his bills, having liens put on property & bank accounts frozen is one thing, but saying he supports American workers as he's importing foreign ones for tax breaks, saying he supports American made products while all of his products are made in China.

I know Trumps base is angry and they have every right to be but they aren't stupid and at some point the Trump facade will crumble and they'll see him for the wealthy lowlife he is.

Every election in my life, when the two nominees are chosen, I've felt like either one and things will ultimately be ok. Trump is the first nominee where I see WWIII and America being destroyed. Am I the only one?

I really don't think it would be this drastic blade wire. Especially the ww3 stuff. And certainly not destroying America. A lot of negativity is being bandied about right now but that's not uncommon at this point in the election cycle. I think there's a long time between now and ww3.

Jman 05-24-2016 10:13 AM

What ever happens with your elections please remember Canada SUCKS and it't not a place to move :upsidedow:1orglaugh

Joshua G 05-24-2016 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20916299)
I think nearly all Presidents go into the situation room not having any real idea of what is going on or how to handle a situation. Can you honestly tell me Obama had a firm grasp of the Jewish / Palestinian situation, and have ideas on how to fix it? Maybe more than you and I, but only barely so.

I think being President of the United States is the most challenging job there is. And just when the President thinks they are doing a good job, something they had no idea existed suddenly pops up and smacks them silly.

wise words, from someone who cant distinguish between a gmail & a server. :)

Bladewire 05-24-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20916440)
yes, you & many other 18 year olds with zero life perspective feel the same way. dont let fear prevent you from seeing a republican who built things in super-liberal NY city. he works with wall street & big labor in tandem. both sides.

whats hilarys bernies track record of working with both sides?

This isn't us VS them partisan talk. I hope something huge happens and Romney steps in he'd do for POTUS. Jeb Bush would work, even Rubio. Paul Ryan will be an awesome president when he finally runs & wins.

Trump's a great cheerleader but he's a toxic immoral loose cannon not capable of being POTUS, he's too selfish. Of all the previous candidates Trump is the only one you can define that way based on facts.

Trump isn't running for POTUS to serve the people, he's running for the people to serve him.

Axeman 05-24-2016 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20916467)
This isn't us VS them partisan talk. I hope something huge happens and Romney steps in he'd do for POTUS. Jeb Bush would work, even Rubio. Paul Ryan will be an awesome president when he finally runs & wins.

Trump's a great cheerleader but he's a toxic immoral loose cannon not capable of being POTUS, he's too selfish. Of all the previous candidates Trump is the only one you can define that way based on facts.

Trump isn't running for POTUS to serve the people, he's running for the people to serve him.

They all run to serve themselves, not the people. They could give a rats ass about the people.

bronco67 05-24-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20916299)
I think nearly all Presidents go into the situation room not having any real idea of what is going on or how to handle a situation. Can you honestly tell me Obama had a firm grasp of the Jewish / Palestinian situation, and have ideas on how to fix it? Maybe more than you and I, but only barely so.

I think being President of the United States is the most challenging job there is. And just when the President thinks they are doing a good job, something they had no idea existed suddenly pops up and smacks them silly.

Ok...but Obama is smart and Trump is an idiot. At least he sounds like one when he speaks.

Relentless 05-24-2016 11:46 AM

I despise Trump.

That said... you show me a President who hasn't broken any laws... and you'll be showing the world just how naive you actually are....

Bladewire 05-24-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20916686)
I despise Trump.

That said... you show me a President who hasn't broken any laws... and you'll be showing the world just how naive you actually are....

Has there been a nominee in history where the DOJ has charged them with federal crimes and won, other than Trump?

Rochard 05-24-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20914907)
But..but Hillary lied about emails and also don't for get about Benghazi..

She didn't lie about anything.

And after ten investigations into Benghazi, still nothing.

mineistaken 05-24-2016 01:14 PM

fiddy Trump trains.

plaster 05-24-2016 02:39 PM



Embedded for truth :thumbsup

noshit 05-24-2016 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20917187)

Embedded for truth :thumbsup

Unintelligible. Embedded by a Nolt of the same Bolt offspring

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plaster 05-24-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20916428)
It's crystal clear that he will be the catalyst for WWIII were he to be elected.

I don't say that in a partisan way.

I've never researched a candidate and seen so much blantant lying and corruption as I have with Trump. Not paying his bills, having liens put on property & bank accounts frozen is one thing, but saying he supports American workers as he's importing foreign ones for tax breaks, saying he supports American made products while all of his products are made in China.

I know Trumps base is angry and they have every right to be but they aren't stupid and at some point the Trump facade will crumble and they'll see him for the wealthy lowlife he is.

Every election in my life, when the two nominees are chosen, I've felt like either one and things will ultimately be ok. Trump is the first nominee where I see WWIII and America being destroyed. Am I the only one?

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20917187)


Embedded for truth :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 20917583)
Unintelligible. Embedded by a Nolt of the same Bolt offspring

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No shit... heh!? Hitlary 4 life rightie!!

noshit 05-24-2016 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20917592)
No shit... heh!? Hitlary 4 life rightie!!

Hitlary Plaster! That's when BAD things happen..!

http://i.imgur.com/CkK46Dw.gif

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Joshua G 05-24-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20916467)
This isn't us VS them partisan talk. I hope something huge happens and Romney steps in he'd do for POTUS. Jeb Bush would work, even Rubio. Paul Ryan will be an awesome president when he finally runs & wins.

Trump's a great cheerleader but he's a toxic immoral loose cannon not capable of being POTUS, he's too selfish. Of all the previous candidates Trump is the only one you can define that way based on facts.

Trump isn't running for POTUS to serve the people, he's running for the people to serve him.

everything you write is emotional. loose cannon. He talks like a brash new yorker. what actions of his are loose cannon. all he does is work & brag about himself, whats the loose cannon part other than deliberately offending PC people for press? immoral? like the 50% of married people who divorce? :1orglaugh

i guess you like your presidents self serving, just low energy, or little. :)

Bladewire 05-24-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20917655)
everything you write is emotional. loose cannon. He talks like a brash new yorker. what actions of his are loose cannon. all he does is work & brag about himself, whats the loose cannon part other than deliberately offending PC people for press? immoral? like the 50% of married people who divorce? :1orglaugh

i guess you like your presidents self serving, just low energy, or little. :)

Would you be offended if I asked your age?

How young are You?

plaster 05-24-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20917679)
Would you be offended if I asked your age?

How young are You?

You just want to know his penis size. Go ahead... ask him the size of his noodle arm.

Bladewire 05-24-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20917700)
You just want to know his penis size. Go ahead... ask him the size of his noodle arm.

Sn@p me vid of you strokin bro Bladewire is mine, what's yours?

plaster 05-24-2016 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20917712)
Sn@p me vid of you strokin bro Bladewire is mine, what's yours?

I knew it... heroine!

Paul Markham 05-24-2016 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20916440)
yes, you & many other 18 year olds with zero life perspective feel the same way. dont let fear prevent you from seeing a republican who built things in super-liberal NY city. he works with wall street & big labor in tandem. both sides.

whats hilarys bernies track record of working with both sides? how about creating jobs. do you want to put trumps job creation history with hilarys, or bernies???

see how you can choose facts to be afraid, or not afraid, if you want to...

:1orglaugh

Comparing someone who hasn't been in office, where they can commit troops, with someone who has is STUPID.

All we can do is compare the tactics they have used in the past and what they say they will do. Trump will build the Armed Forces to a level that is big everyone will be too scared to stand up to them.

ISIS are armed by Faith, militarily they don't stand a snowballs chance in hell against any decent armed forces. They will tell Trump to fuck off, then what will Trump do?

This goes for the Chinese, who America made into the 2nd largest economy in the World and now threatening other countries in the region.

Also, Russia will tell Trump to :321GFY.

Along with Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Saudis, etc. Have all told the US to :321GFY when they were militarily weaker.

What will Trump do with the biggest Armed Forces the world has ever known? We can only get a clue from what he does in business. He bullies his way through.

Yes Trump has created real jobs, competing with people who don't do that. Is STUPID.

kane 05-25-2016 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20916299)
I think nearly all Presidents go into the situation room not having any real idea of what is going on or how to handle a situation. Can you honestly tell me Obama had a firm grasp of the Jewish / Palestinian situation, and have ideas on how to fix it? Maybe more than you and I, but only barely so.

I think being President of the United States is the most challenging job there is. And just when the President thinks they are doing a good job, something they had no idea existed suddenly pops up and smacks them silly.

It is one of those rare jobs where nobody is really qualified to do it until they start doing it. So you hope you elect someone who has a good head on their shoulders and will surround themselves with good people who give them good advice and information and they will make good decisions.

You also have to asses their personality and demeanor so you can guess how they will deal with leaders of other countries. With Hillary we know a lot about how she behaves politically, but Trump is a total wild card so we have to dig into his past. See what he has done and who he has associated with in order to hopefully gain some insight into how he might be in office.

_Richard_ 05-25-2016 01:48 AM

seems like a 'cost of doing business' violation.. andfrom what it looks like, they figured out they were in violation about half way through the acquisition process.

i am slightly confused on why the DOJ or whoever waved the waiting period after knowing they were in violation

Paul Markham 05-25-2016 02:01 AM

Would Trump make a better President than Clinton?

Emails & Benghazi can be countered with all the proven illegal, dodgy and mistakes Trump has made.

You can't say he has never gone to war because he has many times in the business world. And often came out on the losing side. He needs to build a wall around his Irish Golf Course because he made a huge mistake. He failed to do due diligence on what was happening to the coastline, the same with his Scottish golf course. And there are many of occasions he has failed to research and plan properly.

Given the power of the Presidency, what chaos and destruction can he cause?

Bladewire 05-25-2016 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20918174)
Would Trump make a better President than Clinton?

Emails & Benghazi can be countered with all the proven illegal, dodgy and mistakes Trump has made.

You can't say he has never gone to war because he has many times in the business world. And often came out on the losing side. He needs to build a wall around his Irish Golf Course because he made a huge mistake. He failed to do due diligence on what was happening to the coastline, the same with his Scottish golf course. And there are many of occasions he has failed to research and plan properly.

Given the power of the Presidency, what chaos and destruction can he cause?

If you set aside all dogma and go purely based on his past business record and current & past actions during the primary, as POTUS he would:

1) Default on national debt

2) Try to build a wall but underestimate the time & cost bankrupting the project

3) Cheat on the first lady & divorce her while in office.

4) Stay up late on Twitter insulting foreign officials and their countries

5) Have daily press conferences turning red while pointing his finger yelling about a reporter that disrespected him saying how ugly she is.

The list goes on . . .

Rochard 05-25-2016 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20918063)
It is one of those rare jobs where nobody is really qualified to do it until they start doing it. So you hope you elect someone who has a good head on their shoulders and will surround themselves with good people who give them good advice and information and they will make good decisions.

You also have to asses their personality and demeanor so you can guess how they will deal with leaders of other countries. With Hillary we know a lot about how she behaves politically, but Trump is a total wild card so we have to dig into his past. See what he has done and who he has associated with in order to hopefully gain some insight into how he might be in office.

It is a job where no one is really qualified until they've done it for a while.

But... When I worked at Playboy they suddenly drop kicked the CEO (or was it the VP) and replaced him with the former CEO of Cox Cable. The guy who runs Cox Cable had no clue of how to run a porn company, no less something like Playboy. That's like taking a farmer and putting him charge of car dealership.

What Trump doesn't get is that something he says now will come to haunt him later on. Let's say Trump wins and he goes to negotiate with a middle eastern country... He'll have to spend two years backpedaling and apologizing before they will even consider talking to him. You think Mexico will want to negotiate with anyone from the potential future Trump administration?

This is where Hillary has at least common sense.

bronco67 05-25-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20918957)
If you set aside all dogma and go purely based on his past business record and current & past actions during the primary, as POTUS he would:

1) Default on national debt

2) Try to build a wall but underestimate the time & cost bankrupting the project

3) Cheat on the first lady & divorce her while in office.

4) Stay up late on Twitter insulting foreign officials and their countries

5) Have daily press conferences turning red while pointing his finger yelling about a reporter that disrespected him saying how ugly she is.

The list goes on . . .

Pretty much it.

dyna mo 05-25-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20918957)
If you set aside all dogma and go purely based on his past business record and current & past actions during the primary, as POTUS he would:

1) Default on national debt

2) Try to build a wall but underestimate the time & cost bankrupting the project

3) Cheat on the first lady & divorce her while in office.

4) Stay up late on Twitter insulting foreign officials and their countries

5) Have daily press conferences turning red while pointing his finger yelling about a reporter that disrespected him saying how ugly she is.

The list goes on . . .

hill's list is much easier to list

1) more wars

2) free passes to wall street fat cats

Bladewire 05-25-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20919248)
hill's list is much easier to list

1) more wars

2) free passes to wall street fat cats

Better than going into more debt for free college, healthcare, cheetos, etc. Or going bankrupt with Trump and war with weakened relations with our allies.

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20918957)
If you set aside all dogma and go purely based on his past business record and current & past actions during the primary, as POTUS he would:

1) Default on national debt

2) Try to build a wall but underestimate the time & cost bankrupting the project

3) Cheat on the first lady & divorce her while in office.

4) Stay up late on Twitter insulting foreign officials and their countries

5) Have daily press conferences turning red while pointing his finger yelling about a reporter that disrespected him saying how ugly she is.

The list goes on . . .

you missed out one. 6) Go to War.

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20919248)
hill's list is much easier to list

1) more wars

2) free passes to wall street fat cats

How many Wars did the Bushes start?

Trump will have no option but to go to war when people tell him to :321GFY.

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20919443)
Better than going into more debt for free college, healthcare, cheetos, etc. Or going bankrupt with Trump and war with weakened relations with our allies.

Free college for people taking the sciences and unable to afford college is the best way to ensure more climb the laddr and more high skilled people are citizens of te West.

Healthcare could be 2/3s or less than what Americans currently pay. If big business would only allow it.

Trump is more likely to go to war than Hillary. Given the way he works in business.

kane 05-26-2016 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20918984)
It is a job where no one is really qualified until they've done it for a while.

But... When I worked at Playboy they suddenly drop kicked the CEO (or was it the VP) and replaced him with the former CEO of Cox Cable. The guy who runs Cox Cable had no clue of how to run a porn company, no less something like Playboy. That's like taking a farmer and putting him charge of car dealership.

What Trump doesn't get is that something he says now will come to haunt him later on. Let's say Trump wins and he goes to negotiate with a middle eastern country... He'll have to spend two years backpedaling and apologizing before they will even consider talking to him. You think Mexico will want to negotiate with anyone from the potential future Trump administration?

This is where Hillary has at least common sense.

This is my biggest worry with Trump as well. A lot of what he does can be held in check by congress, but he is a loose cannon and could piss off a lot of people. He did it yesterday. While he is on a mission to unite the Republicans he bashed the governor of New Mexico who is a Republican (and was rumored to be one of his VP candidates). She was not amused nor were others in the party. It likely won't hurt him when it comes to the voters, but other world leaders will pay attention to what he says and if he gets pissed or annoyed and just fires off from the hip he could cause damage.

dyna mo 05-26-2016 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20920223)
How many Wars did the Bushes start?

Trump will have no option but to go to war when people tell him to :321GFY.

What the fuck do bushes have to do with Trump or Hillary

?

Not 1 fucking thing.

Jtfc.

plaster 05-26-2016 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20920229)
This is my biggest worry with Trump as well. A lot of what he does can be held in check by congress, but he is a loose cannon and could piss off a lot of people. He did it yesterday. While he is on a mission to unite the Republicans he bashed the governor of New Mexico who is a Republican (and was rumored to be one of his VP candidates). She was not amused nor were others in the party. It likely won't hurt him when it comes to the voters, but other world leaders will pay attention to what he says and if he gets pissed or annoyed and just fires off from the hip he could cause damage.

What the article left out was she openly despised trump (i.e. #nevertrump). Putting that in the article would make too much sense though...

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/Donald-Trump-Hold-Rally-New-Mexico-380185891.html

Bladewire 05-26-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20917724)
I knew it... heroine!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 05-26-2016 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20920391)
What the fuck do bushes have to do with Trump or Hillary

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Not 1 fucking thing.

Jtfc.

http://cp91279.biography.com/BRAND_B...8x432-16x9.jpg


http://www.history.com/s3static/vide...ll_624x352.jpg

My mistake I thought you were bright enough to understand.

Bladewire 06-01-2016 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20920220)
you missed out one. 6) Go to War.

Good point :thumbsup

dyna mo 06-01-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20922116)

i fully understand that you don't make any sense at all.

Bladewire 06-01-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20933972)
i fully understand that you don't make any sense at all.

Snap me bruh, or turn your Skype on :love2suck


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