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Best-In-BC 06-14-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ (Post 20955569)
Yes, I can totally imagine the drunken England fans not talking trash to the kings of drinking and not getting their ass handed to them. Too bad America wasn't there to save them.:thumbsup

and if Canada was there we woulda wrecked them... the drinking part.

just a punk 06-14-2016 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20961866)

Nothing to be proud about :2 cents:

I've never understand those football fans, because they actually don't even care about football, they use it just a reason to fight with other club fans, with police, with everybody. Remember all those "epic" fights between Spartak (Moscow) and Zenit (Saint Petersburg) fans. Crazy people.

just a punk 06-14-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20962679)
Considering that 75% of Russian territory is in Asia and it is descended from the Golden Horde . I would say Russia is in Asia .

It doesn't matter what you say. Russia is the biggest European country ever (look at the map already) and most of Russian population (almost 80% of citizens) live in Europe (Moscow, Spb and other biggest cities of the Western Russia). The Asian part of the country is just unoccupied/empty - you won't find a single person in 1000's kilometers of Siberian Taiga. Personally I live in Europe and all the people I know live here too.

This is how Asian Russia does look like:



Every Russian citizen can officially take a huge part of land there ^^^ for free. But I don't know anybody who did that...

just a punk 06-14-2016 02:49 PM

One more video about Asian Russia:



Nobody lives there, but wild animals.

mineistaken 06-14-2016 03:59 PM

I hear Chinese are invading eastern Russia.

privatesociety 06-15-2016 02:22 AM

Absolute crazy scenes.... Could not believe my eyes.

On a side note those Russian guys are very well trained, stupid as well, but very well trained, inflicting maximum damage and off they go.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 06-15-2016 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by privatesociety (Post 20964227)
Absolute crazy scenes.... Could not believe my eyes.

On a side note those Russian guys are very well trained, stupid as well, but very well trained, inflicting maximum damage and off they go.

what do you think about this fight?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster
was English guys very well traided to kill 39 Italians?

privatesociety 06-15-2016 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20964299)
what do you think about this fight?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster
was English guys very well traided to kill 39 Italians?

It's never good - i'm not taking either side of course, but being killed and fighting at football is crazy, absolute madness.

klinton 06-15-2016 03:50 AM

Graham Philips is a Russian spy and Putin's dog :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

now please do the same thing like he did and ask Russian ultras questions about 90's wars in Chechenya and 80's in Afghanistan.
I wonder if you will be such fine as he was :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 20962604)


britan jurnalist and ukrainian funs ))


klinton 06-15-2016 03:52 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20962679)
Considering that 75% of Russian territory is in Asia and it is descended from the Golden Horde . I would say Russia is in Asia .


klinton 06-15-2016 03:55 AM

some people would say that this is perfect description of Russians........:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20963219)
Nobody lives there, but wild animals.


klinton 06-15-2016 03:57 AM

any contact details for the girl from your avatar ? :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:
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Originally Posted by ZiggiZiggiCrew (Post 20964299)
what do you think about this fight?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heysel_Stadium_disaster
was English guys very well traided to kill 39 Italians?


just a punk 06-15-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20964404)
some people would say that this is perfect description of Russians........:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

For some reason I knew you will say that. It's your level :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20963405)
I hear Chinese are invading eastern Russia.

Not quite true. There is a lot of them in some Eastern Russian cities, as well as there is a lot of Russians in Western Chinese cities. There is something like a visa-free trading/commercial zone between two countries. These are pictures from Chinese cities near the Russian border. Does it means that Russians invade them? No we just trading there.

http://img.macos.ms/2015.01-CN-Signs...N-Signs-19.jpg

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/1548..._c2e59e2f_orig

http://bigpicture.ru/wp-content/uplo...11/03/3025.jpg

http://img.macos.ms/2015.01-CN-Signs...N-Signs-20.jpg

http://bigpicture.ru/wp-content/uplo...11/03/2236.jpg

mineistaken 06-15-2016 01:27 PM

This trade does not threaten China, on the contrary - it is bad for Russia because their money goes out of the country for Chinese made goods.

Now what I am talking about:

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Russia, however, is wary of Chinese (or other) migrants pouring into its sparsely populated Far East. Trutnev noted that his plan was designed to prevent the free land from being sold to foreign companies and individuals. Moscow Times called this ?an important consideration? as ?Chinese, Japanese, and South Korean companies are gradually making inroads? into Russia?s Far East.

Russia?s Federal Migration Service is especially wary of an influx of Chinese migrants across the Russia-China border. It has warned that Chinese could become the largest ethnic group in Russia?s Far East by the 2020s or 2030s; last summer a border official said that 1.5 million Chinese illegally entered Russia?s Far East from January 2013 to June 2014. In part, then, the new ?homestead act? may be designed to prevent Chinese dominance in the region, as Moscow hopes to encourage new migration into the area by Russian citizens.

China Eyes Land Giveaway Program in Russiaâ??s Far East | The Diplomat

RFremont 06-15-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20956955)

So which ones are the bitch ass russians in this video, the ones in the black shirts running like rabbits?

j3rkules 06-15-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 20966002)
So which ones are the bitch ass russians in this video, the ones in the black shirts running like rabbits?

I believe the ones in the black shirts.

just a punk 06-15-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20965975)
This trade does not threaten China, on the contrary - it is bad for Russia because their money goes out of the country for Chinese made goods.

Money is intended to be spend for material goods. So I can't see how is it bad for Russia. As about migrants, so I would be more worried about those hordes of illegals from exUSSR Asian, Caucasian republics and Ukraine. Russia is the #2 country by the number of foreign migrants after the USA, and Moscow is #1 city in the World. So Far East is the last thing I would care about.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20965975)

As far as I know, that program works for Russian citizens only. I have mentioned already that all Russians can get a free land on the East in the same way as they've got free dachas and free apartments. E.g. I can get easily get 2.47 Acres there, my wife can get another 2.47 Acres, my son can do it etc. We can join our lands together if we want it, but what will we do with them? I have no idea, so we haven't used this opportunity. I'm already have a house and a land near the Volga river (bought it as a summer residence for my parents). All the other seasons one only resident there is Mom's tommiecat :)

mineistaken 06-15-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20966041)
Money is intended to be spend for material goods. So I can't see how is it bad for Russia.

Are you for real? You do not know that importing goods are bad and exporting goods are good for countries? Is import/export balance seriously a new thing for you? :1orglaugh
If Chinese come to Russia and buy your goods - it is good for Russia. Opposite - it is good for China. As simple as that.

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20966041)
As about migrants, so I would be more worried about those hordes of illegals from exUSSR Asian, Caucasian republics and Ukraine. Russia is the #2 country by the number of foreign migrants after the USA, and Moscow is #1 city in the World. So Far East is the last thing I would care about.

It is not that much about migrants as about the land. If majority of Chinese in Far east of Russia were Chinese, it is a danger to national security to Russia. China may or might even try to claim the lands. Not now, not in ten years, but maybe in a century or two.

Ps: Something like that was done by Russia already, when they tried to "rescue Russian nationals in Crimea" from evil Ukrainian dictatorship. In a century or so Chinese may try to "rescue" their people in those territories the same way.
That is a big concern for Russia.

just a punk 06-15-2016 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966077)
Are you for real? You do not know that importing goods are bad and exporting goods are good for countries?

Absolutely for real. Russia makes it's wealth by selling gas and oil. I don't like it and think that Putin ruins our economics, but since there are no other major sources of money, the people are using the situation "as is" and there is nothing bad that they can buy the goods in China 10x times cheaper than here.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966077)
If Chinese come to Russia and buy your goods - it is good for Russia.

They do buy our goods too. That's why Chinese come to Siberia. They buy our soy, flour, mineral water, milk powder, chocolate and candies, wheat, barley, rolled steel, pulp, chemical fertilizers, alcohol and many other products.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966077)
It is not that much about migrants as about the land. If majority of Chinese in Far east of Russia were Chinese, it is a danger to national security to Russia.

Actually they are not. Siberia is not good for living. Even for overpopulated people of China. As about who and what might try claim, so that's just assumptions. For example Russia might try to claim Alaska and California, so what? Do you know how some Russians call Alaska? They call it "Ice Cream" which in Russian sounds like "Ice Crimea". So "might try" is not something to talk about.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966077)
Something like that was done by Russia already, when they tried to "rescue Russian nationals in Crimea" from evil Ukrainian dictatorship.

That's a very different thing. Crimea has always been a Russian territory and it's a very important zone for military purposes. Remember that Russian Black Sea Fleet is based there and it was never joined the Ukraine or any other country. Also note the population of Crimea have never wanted to live on the Ukraine. That's why it was annexed so easily w/o a war and human victims - the annexation was supported by locals and nobody was willing to fight back. Even Kosovo was separated through war (even is that war was supported by West - isn't it?), but not Crimea.

Educate yourself:


mineistaken 06-15-2016 02:56 PM

LOL, all the goods you posted are raw materials. It is BAD to export raw materials and GOOD to export made goods. Raw materials have very low additional value that is why you try to limit export of those and try to make something out of them and then export. Example - instead of exporting wood logs, you would rather export furniture. Or something in the middle at least - quality timber etc. That is how you get added value.

I can not believe you have no idea about simple things like that and you are actually proud that most of your export is raw materials. That is VERY VERY BAD.
Banana republics and third world countries export raw materials, top countries export made goods (with huge added value that stays in the country).

As for Alaska and Cali - wrong comparison as majority of the people there are not Russians.
If majority of Alaska people were Russians, even a power like US would be very worried.
That is geopolitics basics...

You have no grasp on both economics and geopolitics basics...
So I will not respond to your next post, which will no doubt will leave you "winning" the discussion in your little brain :)

just a punk 06-15-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966134)
LOL, all the goods you posted are raw materials.

Raw minerals, agricultural products, chemicals, still production etc. That's the products we sell to China. Good it or bad is not something those traders are worried about. You should direct your brilliant ideas to Putin instead.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966134)
Banana republics and third world countries export raw materials, top countries export made goods (with huge added value that stays in the country).

Like you it or not but even American flags are made in China. Not even mention electronics etc. This is the reality we live in.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20966134)
As for Alaska and Cali - wrong comparison as majority of the people there are not Russians.

As well as most of citizens there are not Chinese. And they won't be Chinese for some reason I have explained to you above. Read my posts carefully to avoid stupid assumptions. I live in this country and know the internal situation a bit better.

P.S. If I was you, I would never that sure about Alaska, because US Alaska and Russian Chukotka have a visa-free regime (surprised?) just like some Russian and Chinese border cities. So what's the difference? ;)

just a punk 06-15-2016 03:24 PM

BTW what if Mexico will claim some the US south states in the next 100 or 200 years, ah? ;) Also there are more Chinese people in the USA and Canada than in Russia - yet another reason to think ;)

As we say here: the optimist learns English, the pessimist learns Chinese and the realist learns AK-47 ;)

Sarn 06-16-2016 12:22 AM



againe Lille - ru funs eng funs 5:30 :1orglaugh

privatesociety 06-16-2016 02:22 AM

Caught a bit more of this last night on the news.... fighting the police now!


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