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ilnjscb 06-24-2016 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20985271)
Marine Le Pen hardly represents entire "France". Thats like saying United States wants to wear wigs and fake tan while building a wall with Canada.

Yes, and Nigel Farage hardly represents all of UK - no country is ever unanimous. A person who has the support of 29% of the country, as Marine Le Pen has, is credible to speak for a large part of the population.

redwhiteandblue 06-24-2016 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985268)
I hear that real British people do not want to do those jobs that unskilled people from other countries do.

Well they certainly don't want to do them for peanuts and have to live two or three families in one house just to afford a roof over their heads.

I think importing cheap labour from the East to grow our economy is not really a good long term plan, we need something better.

Horatio Caine 06-24-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20985409)
Yes, and Nigel Farage hardly represents all of UK - no country is ever unanimous. A person who has the support of 29% of the country, as Marine Le Pen has, is credible to speak for a large part of the population.

Save your keystrokes. 29% isn't "France". Thats all I was trying to say. Hi title said "France, Denmark and blah blah blah"...

SekobA 06-24-2016 08:46 AM

if i was a Britain i would certainly vote the same

mineistaken 06-24-2016 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 20985424)
Well they certainly don't want to do them for peanuts and have to live two or three families in one house just to afford a roof over their heads.

So this is the issue of raising minimal wage because it is too low to even afford your own single family place? Or is it just an excuse for those who live in estates and get benefits? :)

Scott McD 06-24-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20985409)
Yes, and Nigel Farage hardly represents all of UK - no country is ever unanimous.

The media here tried to paint all 'leave' voters with the same brush as Farage the past few days and weeks.

No surprise there...

nico-t 06-24-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985340)
The No was huge but the stakes weren't... I mean... come on... a vote about a country most of us never visit or know anything about... Yeah... the Dutch have no problem to vote about others... When they need to vote for Nexit they will piss their pants...


Yes 2005...Huge mistake...You can't do a project halfway...
The reason why Dutch peolpe are Euroskeptic is because they lack a vision.
Just because it feels good doesn't make it right.

All signs are clear that people would be better off with some form of dictatorship.

Europe is fucked up too much allready... Better to just dismantle the whole operation...
with all consequences...

In other words, just throw in the towel, don't resist, take it up the ass without a peep.

You gave up, luckily alot of people didn't.

CurrentlySober 06-24-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985307)
I am anti globalist...

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985373)
I'm a rationalist...

I'm a Copropheliac... :2 cents:

Struggle4Bucks 06-24-2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20985586)
In other words, just throw in the towel, don't resist, take it up the ass without a peep.

You gave up, luckily alot of people didn't.

Resist? Instead of resisting people should have voted for more integration!
If you didn't get what I was saying I will say it again: Done properly and not half way the EU would have been a huge power factor in this world that would have benefited all Europeans.

I don't resist governments... simply because it's a waste of time... You got to take care of yourself... Fuck em and don't place yourself in the position where they effect your life and income.

Oh I gave up?:1orglaugh

Please wake up... You clearly don't like it up your ass... but... if it isn't the EU it will be your own government sticking it up your ass...
Dutch are complaining about their government 24/7/365. After each election they cry about how politicians don't keep their words and betrayed the people:1orglaugh
I hear this shit since the 90's... remember? Wim Kok... Purple Kabinet...
And still they go out to vote every 4 years like they all suffer from long- and short-term amnesia. I don't know any other nation that likes it up the ass as much the Dutch like it...

mineistaken 06-24-2016 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985958)
If you didn't get what I was saying I will say it again: Done properly and not half way the EU would have been a huge power factor in this world that would have benefited all Europeans.

That is where you do not get the point of non turncoats like yourself: for patriots their nation's sovereignty is worth MUCH MUCH more than an extra economical boost of EU federation.

Normal people do not sell that cheaply, you may take your 30 silvers...

Paul&John 06-24-2016 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20985958)
And still they go out to vote every 4 years like they all suffer from long- and short-term amnesia. I don't know any other nation that likes it up the ass as much the Dutch like it...

no worries, its the same everywhere :D

Struggle4Bucks 06-24-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20986051)
That is where you do not get the point of non turncoats like yourself: for patriots their nation's sovereignty is worth MUCH MUCH more than an extra economical boost of EU federation.

Normal people do not sell that cheaply, you may take your 30 silvers...

OMG...

Patriots yes... a Patriot is an infantile breeze on low water suffering from severe identity disorder...

They are the link between apes and the Übermensch...

Grow a pair of brains... please...

Struggle4Bucks 06-24-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20986051)
an extra economical boost of EU federation.

Who was talking about an economical boost?
I'm talking about being able to hold on to positions in a rapidly changing world...
Our wealth isn't a givin privilege...
Wars are not about moral issues... wars are about positions...

See how others are taking positions...
In 50 years there will be nothing left to be patriotic about... lol

CaptainHowdy 06-24-2016 03:14 PM

Dont mess with the british ...

Horatio Caine 06-24-2016 03:23 PM

British food is the most disgusting crap in the world. Having said that in 6 days brassmonkey and I are going to get paid.. long azz tyme waiting

redwhiteandblue 06-24-2016 03:27 PM

Say what you like about British food but we weren't the ones who invented this...

http://dev.dovetailpp.com/sites/defa...y%20cheese.jpg

mineistaken 06-24-2016 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks (Post 20986069)
OMG...

Patriots yes... a Patriot is an infantile breeze on low water suffering from severe identity disorder...

They are the link between apes and the Übermensch...

Grow a pair of brains... please...

When I say patriot I do not mean that extreme caricature patriot, I am talking about at least 90 % of the population.
Those that are British/Dutch/etc first and Europeans as distant second.
You know, almost all of the people. Normal people. Country and nationality is great value to them.

Sarn 06-24-2016 03:56 PM

EU 2020 :1orglaugh
https://pp.vk.me/c631331/v631331631/..._plVv_QAsQ.jpg

ilnjscb 06-24-2016 03:57 PM

Look if votes to leave were allowed, the south would have left the north US. The north literally kicked the shit out of the south for voting to leave the union. So probably would Texas have left. There would be like 5 countries by now.

mineistaken 06-24-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20986180)
Look if votes to leave were allowed, the south would have left the north US. The north literally kicked the shit out of the south for voting to leave the union. So probably would Texas have left. There would be like 5 countries by now.

You are comparing states with countries :error:1orglaugh

mineistaken 06-24-2016 04:13 PM

What did this fine Briton vote for?

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...701/144665.jpg

mineistaken 06-24-2016 04:14 PM

Did they check her ID?

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...701/144664.jpg

mineistaken 06-24-2016 04:15 PM

Actual Britons :thumbsup :

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/...701/144663.jpg

NatalieK 06-24-2016 04:22 PM

I've just been watching the news & it seems half the people that voted out are feeling let down & regret their decisions already! Like ffs, stop listening to propaganda & then regretting your mistakes later! Now we've all got to put up with it! :(

mineistaken 06-24-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20986228)
I've just been watching the news & it seems half the people that voted out are feeling let down & regret their decisions already! Like ffs, stop listening to propaganda & then regretting your mistakes later! Now we've all got to put up with it! :(

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
How easy to media manipulate idiots, take few people on camera who are "let down" and here you have it - millions of brexit voters are feeling let down:1orglaugh

oppoten 06-24-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20986231)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
How easy to media manipulate idiots, take few people on camera who are "let down" and here you have it - millions of brexit voters are feeling let down:1orglaugh

They are easily manipulated though. Leeds (where Jo Cox was murdered) voted remain, while most of the surrounding areas voted leave.

While I'm pleased with the result, I do wonder if many of the white working class actually know much about the EU. They simplified it down to immigration, because they know more about it than they do about the economy.

mineistaken 06-24-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20986291)
They are easily manipulated though. Leeds (where Jo Cox was murdered) voted remain, while most of the surrounding areas voted leave.

While I'm pleased with the result, I do wonder if many of the white working class actually know much about the EU. They simplified it down to immigration, because they know more about it than they do about the economy.

So brexit voters were not properly informed, but bremain voters were? :1orglaugh
Come on, why be that subjective...

oppoten 06-24-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20986333)
So brexit voters were not properly informed, but bremain voters were? :1orglaugh
Come on, why be that subjective...

No that's not what I meant. The young who voted remain because "peace love and unicorns" were no better informed.

My point is that a lot of people voted on gut instinct rather than information. But maybe that's the way things are going, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.

mineistaken 06-24-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20986351)
No that's not what I meant. The young who voted remain because "peace love and unicorns" were no better informed.

My point is that a lot of people voted on gut instinct rather than information. But maybe that's the way things are going, and it's not necessarily a bad thing.

:thumbsup:2 cents:

oppoten 06-24-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20984083)
Soros just made millions selling the GBP

The golabalists never lose.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/7/5859796_165d8bc078.jpg

mineistaken 06-24-2016 06:30 PM

one fiddy non pussies

Joshua G 06-24-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20985427)
Save your keystrokes. 29% isn't "France". Thats all I was trying to say. Hi title said "France, Denmark and blah blah blah"...

i see your struggling to convey a point in your native language, english. maybe you should try out some ebonics it might take better to your limited mental skills.

i mean, your a liberal, & a flaming racist. usually the liberal racists hate white males. your so dumb you dont even realize your own ideology hates you, honkey.

:1orglaugh

Joshua G 06-24-2016 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20986420)
one fiddy non pussies

a lot of whats happening in 2016 comes back to the USA, & europes, decision to appease evil in the syria civil war 2011. we saw what happened in the 1930s, when european & american democrats appeased evil.

just more of the same. the average joe is going isolationist because the lib-tard globalists fumbled the ball on security. NATO is still amassing troops to hold back the soviet union, for crying out loud. meanwhile innocents all over are getting wantonly murdered while obama & cameron draw peace symbols in the sand.

disgraceful. :2 cents:

Horatio Caine 06-24-2016 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 20986141)
Say what you like about British food but we weren't the ones who invented this...

http://dev.dovetailpp.com/sites/defa...y%20cheese.jpg

I think I used that shit once in my life. Can't remember, ti was at someone else's house party.
But fuck, I never ate anything more disgusting than lamb chop in London. And it was very expensive place not too far from Buckingham palace.

Horatio Caine 06-24-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20986423)
i see your struggling to convey a point in your native language, english. maybe you should try out some ebonics it might take better to your limited mental skills.

i mean, your a liberal, & a flaming racist. usually the liberal racists hate white males. your so dumb you dont even realize your own ideology hates you, honkey.

:1orglaugh

Hang on there my mental patient. Let me get my e-feelings out my flash drive so I can pretend I'm so upset at you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Im what I am. I don't need to fit in.. Im Johny Fucking Cash and you're some Michael W Smith wanna be. :321GFY

Joshua G 06-24-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20986456)
Hang on there my mental patient. Let me get my e-feelings out my flash drive so I can pretend I'm so upset at you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Im what I am. I don't need to fit in.. Im Johny Fucking Cash and you're some Michael W Smith wanna be. :321GFY

more like homie the clown than jon cash.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20141013060305

:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 06-25-2016 01:04 AM

The EU is running scared that more Europeans will demand a vote. So unless the establishment hit the UK hard, which will hit Europeans. The EU is dead.

Then we go back to a trade deals and a few other parts.

Paul Markham 06-25-2016 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985262)
It is not about the exception. Random 10.000 Bulgarians or random 10.000 Africans.
It is obvious that random Bulgarians would be more skillful than random Africans.

Skilled people should always be welcome. The notion of random is the problem.

Paul Markham 06-25-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985268)
I hear that real British people do not want to do those jobs that unskilled people from other countries do.

Can you detail what these jobs are that Brits don't want to do?

Paul Markham 06-25-2016 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20985307)
Lets make it clear - Trump is against ILLEGAL ( = criminals breaking US laws) immigration. Like any sane person would be. If you (like Hitlery) are for illegal immigration, you are a traitor (because by definition you welcome illegal invader who is breaking your country's laws).

As for me - I am anti globalist, I like when people live in their own countries, dislike all migrants, especially the economical types. But that is MY position, not Trump's who is FOR immigration, except ILLEGAL ( = crime) immigration.

The EU took out the illegal part. They made it legal for anyone to move and get the same benefits, as natives.


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