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Barry-xlovecam 07-29-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21068062)
Barry seems to think he has to stay poorer to keep affiliates earning a living. While affiliates can jump boat at any time. ...
What goes around comes around.

Fuck you Paul.
You show your true colors here.

This is why you are out of business.
Real reason.

Barry-xlovecam 07-29-2016 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 21068074)
So traffic is king?

No Paul is KING. King of the castle in is mind.

nico-t 07-29-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 21065533)

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mamaliga 07-31-2016 06:24 AM

fuck webcams.com

EddyTheDog 07-31-2016 09:30 AM

Paul - You really don't get the affiliate/program relationship at all - Affiliates are doing them a favor by bringing in sales - They are not doing me a favor by letting me make them money - That's why they provide tools and incentives - Affiliates can pick and choose - For now anyway...

When someone pulls shit like this it reflects badly on the company - Although Mindgeeks reputation is so bad already you have to question the sanity of anyone still promoting them.....

Paul Markham 08-01-2016 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster (Post 21068074)
So traffic is king?

No content is king. The company with the content sets the rules it wants to live by.

My point is most here think the company with the content has to keep to the rules the affiliates don't keep to. And so far no one has addressed my point.

Paul Markham 08-01-2016 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21068491)
Fuck you Paul.
You show your true colors here.

This is why you are out of business.
Real reason.

Yes, my true colours are both parties need to accept the same rules. You seem to think that's not right.

That's why I was able to retire on a pension plan that will keep me warm for my lifetime and Eva's after I'm gone.

Paul Markham 08-01-2016 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21072439)
Paul - You really don't get the affiliate/program relationship at all - Affiliates are doing them a favor by bringing in sales - They are not doing me a favor by letting me make them money - That's why they provide tools and incentives - Affiliates can pick and choose - For now anyway...

When someone pulls shit like this it reflects badly on the company - Although Mindgeeks reputation is so bad already you have to question the sanity of anyone still promoting them.....

No one is doing anyone a favour in business. It's about making money.

The business is changing rapidly and most affiliates have gone or going. Should a company hold onto yesterday's model or go to tomorrow's model?

And as I repeatedly point out, affiliates demand the right to change who they promote at any time. Here we see them demanding a Sponsor doesn't change. Can yousay why it's right that one can change and the other can't>

As for Mindgeek, they are part of tomorrow reputation doesn't mean $$$$

Your argument and others here are like those working in Detroit building cars 20 years ago. Or

http://ludditelink.org.uk/perch/reso...over2-h500.jpg

Barry-xlovecam 08-01-2016 12:31 PM

Paul has 2 affiliates lefty and righty -- his affiliate program is his dick.

rowan 08-02-2016 02:49 AM

I'm owed nothing and apparently have no remaining links (or any that generate clicks) so I'm all done. Bye bye webcams.com

mineistaken 08-02-2016 04:05 AM

fiddy non working links and lost money for non updaters....

porndumpme 08-13-2016 11:33 PM

Business is business.. this is true.

But i don't see how this will benefit anyone except them, mydirtyhobby isn't even english, it wont convert nearly as well in the US.

I have a feeling they just sold it for alot of money.. and are pocketing it.

Meanwhile thousands of us have links up for them.. and are now not getting paid for it.

Webcams.com was such an awesome and brandable domain.. i had the white label making a few sign ups a week but then they changed the way it works.. and all my traffic disapeared.

Im sick of putting up links for sponsors, especially on my blogs which is very time consuming. Then the sponsor just says hey we changed it all, update your links fuckwits.

Half the time they don't even tell anyone, you just find the tour page has changed and your old links might not even be counting anymore.

Its 100% understandable a sponsor program needs to earn a profit and must do what it needs to survive.. but what about the affiliates?

GFY i guess :)

TheDynasty 08-13-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 21100411)
Business is business.. this is true.

But i don't see how this will benefit anyone except them, mydirtyhobby isn't even english, it wont convert nearly as well in the US.

I have a feeling they just sold it for alot of money.. and are pocketing it.

Meanwhile thousands of us have links up for them.. and are now not getting paid for it.

Webcams.com was such an awesome and brandable domain.. i had the white label making a few sign ups a week but then they changed the way it works.. and all my traffic disapeared.

Im sick of putting up links for sponsors, especially on my blogs which is very time consuming. Then the sponsor just says hey we changed it all, update your links fuckwits.

Half the time they don't even tell anyone, you just find the tour page has changed and your old links might not even be counting anymore.

Its 100% understandable a sponsor program needs to earn a profit and must do what it needs to survive.. but what about the affiliates?

GFY i guess :)

MDH Converts :thumbsup

porndumpme 08-13-2016 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21068062)
Barry seems to think he has to stay poorer to keep affiliates earning a living. While affiliates can jump boat at any time.

The future is very big companies taking the traffic, then the need for affiliates who can't work on their own and get the revenue given to them will go.

What I find strange is all the bitching and bleeding hearts. Where were they when they were killing offline porn?

What goes around comes around.

Your right it could become possible for affiliates to become absolete.

If you look at traffic trends across the internet you will see from the 90s its moved from many small sites, to fewer very large sites.

Hand written content sites developed into user generated PHP sites with millions of pages.

All the traffic has moved..

The future for affiliates will be marketing yourself on these larger websites and adding content to those..

And it will probably keep changing rapidly as it has, and people will keep bitching.

I know i am sick of it, totally sick of it, and are now focusing on more real world businesses.

porndumpme 08-13-2016 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 21100417)
MDH Converts :thumbsup

Im sure it will but not nearly as well as webcams.com did. And how about just moving the program and redirecting all the traffic :)

Paul Markham 08-14-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 21100411)
Business is business.. this is true.

But i don't see how this will benefit anyone except them.

Do you drop promoting a non-profitable site or keep sending them traffic?

This is another one of those bitching threads because someone has found something else has a better profit margin.

Paul Markham 08-14-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 21100423)
Your right it could become possible for affiliates to become absolete.

If you look at traffic trends across the internet you will see from the 90s its moved from many small sites, to fewer very large sites.

Hand written content sites developed into user generated PHP sites with millions of pages.

All the traffic has moved..

The future for affiliates will be marketing yourself on these larger websites and adding content to those..

And it will probably keep changing rapidly as it has, and people will keep bitching.

I know i am sick of it, totally sick of it, and are now focusing on more real world businesses.

Why allow affiliates to buy ads and bring in a far lower profit?

Why allow anyone not employed by the company to dictate where you customers come from?

This cuts dramatically into profit margins, less money is spent on the product and has led to the reason a lot of companies can't afford to update or improve their product.

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
Paul has 2 affiliates lefty and righty -- his affiliate program is his dick.

Precisley. You need stats to understand what words. I use what customers use. What are you boss's plans for replacing ads on piracy sites?

Too stupid to troll.

porndumpme 08-17-2016 07:32 PM

All good points.. just feels wrong tho..

A tip for everyone.. in the last year ive started putting redirection links to all my sponsors, so it can be changed from one spot.

Basically i have a little link / banner rotator that also works with hard coded text links.

So any linking codes i put up, work through this system.

This way if they decide to change the program i can simply change the link in my backend, and all the hundreds or thousands of pages i have links up for get redirected to something else that converts with that traffic.

Having built adult sites for 15 years, ive been ripped from sponsors at least 10 times.. and i think this is the solution.

vending_machine 08-17-2016 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 21100411)
Business is business.. this is true.

But i don't see how this will benefit anyone except them, mydirtyhobby isn't even english, it wont convert nearly as well in the US.

I have a feeling they just sold it for alot of money.. and are pocketing it.

Meanwhile thousands of us have links up for them.. and are now not getting paid for it.

Webcams.com was such an awesome and brandable domain.. i had the white label making a few sign ups a week but then they changed the way it works.. and all my traffic disapeared.

Im sick of putting up links for sponsors, especially on my blogs which is very time consuming. Then the sponsor just says hey we changed it all, update your links fuckwits.

Half the time they don't even tell anyone, you just find the tour page has changed and your old links might not even be counting anymore.

Its 100% understandable a sponsor program needs to earn a profit and must do what it needs to survive.. but what about the affiliates?

GFY i guess :)

Domain name may be "awesome" but the product was a tiny little fish in the cam market space. I would think the reasons they shut it down are not close to what you think.

There are programs who in over 10 years of business have never changed their links. (Streamate is one of them, but there are several others)


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