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AllAboutCams 11-13-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21297352)
You don't need ads. I run blogs and still make money. It costs me pretty much nothing.

And you can promote anything. I got a sign up to Lightspeed Cash last night:

http://content.screencast.com/users/...11-13_0729.png

How did you generate a sale without ads?

Barry-xlovecam 11-13-2016 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 21296992)
I've never done so many sales as an affiliate this year. Best year from 2008 and the Tubes rise. And not with my old domains but with new ones purchased in 2015. It tooks me a long time to adapt but I didn't die.

So Paul I could only disagree with you.

I like this :thumbsup

It reinforces my theory of the "Clean Slate Domain".
It is a twist to the "clean slate brand" trend displacing incumbent brands with new ideas and concepts.
Google systematically looks for the new, and when credible, will give these domains a push up.

These new domains were of newer design I am assuming.

Paul Markham 11-13-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Securom (Post 21296941)
Advertising will never die...probably

Of course. The question is who will buy the Ads and where will they place them?

Getting traffic is the easy part. Don't reply it's not because you need 500 visitors to make one sale. And 75% of your traffic is new people and 75% of them don't stay longer than 20 seconds. Being loose with the numbers but I 'm sure you understand.

Engaging people is the name of the game. Entertaining and informing is paramount now and in the future. Adultking made a very good point, Pornhub, Xhamster, Youporn survive off the people they retain. Not new visitors. Has anyone got their percentage of new and retained?

The exact same goes for GFY when most of the other porn forums are dead or dull.

Affiliates are a dying breed. Entertainers and informers are the new way.

Paul Markham 11-13-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21297367)
I like this :thumbsup

It reinforces my theory of the "Clean Slate Domain".
It is a twist to the "clean slate brand" trend displacing incumbent brands with new ideas and concepts.
Google systematically looks for the new, and when credible, will give these domains a push up.

These new domains were of newer design I am assuming.

How many sales did you make to a Google algorithm?

Barry-xlovecam 11-13-2016 09:19 AM

A lot *in the past* more than you ever did :2 cents:

Do you know what the word theory means?

badgirlfilms 11-13-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21259342)
Content will always be king. The problem is untalented people trying to compete with talented people.

bullshit...it's the MODEL competing with the producer...Now Models are producers, just look at the shift on clips4sale from guys like us, shooting content to the models just blowing it out of the water. Fans like dealing directly with the talent. No one can stop this or slow it down.

rayadp05 11-13-2016 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 21259210)
Buying ads is not simple. You need to filter that traffic. Optimizing your campaigns at ad-networks is a real pain in the ass if you don't know what you're doing. Most webmasters en company owners don't know what they are doing when it comes to buying traffic.

That's why you see so many people complain about traffic brokers. Most people begin with buying a few bucks of traffic and when that doens't convert, they start threads filled with complaints about traffic brokers. But in reality they just don't know how to make money with paid traffic. :2 cents:

I agree.

Barry-xlovecam 11-13-2016 09:35 AM

I did not what to edit the above post too much

Anybody that knows anything knows that Google likes new domains.

You want a guarantee buy a fucking can opener or something.
Affiliates that use the data we can provide create unique websites and make money every week.

Sorry, we are not a public company and do not release audited financial reports.

I will not cite any of our company statistics nor reveal any personal statistics other than possibly useful empirical findings.

faxxaff 11-13-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21259120)

Ads are easier to buy, better to monitor and more profitable. Whether it's on a blog like a newspaper, free entertainment sites like Pornhub or Youtube or search engine. Why pay 1,000s of people who the sponsor has no control over when it can be done better and cheaper in-house?

I see so many advertising networks go out of business all the time. Chances are they will vanish once you send them a big check.

Barry-xlovecam 11-13-2016 09:44 AM

And those models' clips that are sold as downloads will end up posted as copyright infringement. Some models don't care -- others leave the business for this reason.

I don't need that small money and the headaches -- thank you.

Smart Fred 11-13-2016 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 21297298)
That's good to hear. What do you attribute your success in paysite memberships to?

I've stopped searching to provide more content to get more visitors and set-up sites that are teasing and helpful to people ready to pay and that are searching for quality porn.

At the opposite of what Paul said, new technologies are helping me to sell memberships.

Rochard 11-13-2016 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 21297358)
How did you generate a sale without ads?

I have a handful of blogs that get organic traffic.

There was a time in this industry when you couldn't buy traffic - you had to get traffic on your own.

wankawonk 11-13-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by badgirlfilms (Post 21297451)
bullshit...it's the MODEL competing with the producer...Now Models are producers, just look at the shift on clips4sale from guys like us, shooting content to the models just blowing it out of the water. Fans like dealing directly with the talent. No one can stop this or slow it down.

This. You either have to be brazzers-level high budget, or completely DIY. Anything in the middle can't compete anymore.

At any rate, affiliate marketing will always be a thing. Its the lowest-risk way for a product owner to advertise. But its true, tube sites killed paysite affiliates. Tinder killed dating offers. Live cams are saturated. There's not much opportunity left unless you can generate a shit ton of traffic.

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21297448)
A lot *in the past* more than you ever did :2 cents:

Do you know what the word theory means?

You made sales to people. Not getting my point proves how little you understand. The method I propose isn't theory, it's being used as we post.

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by badgirlfilms (Post 21297451)
bullshit...it's the MODEL competing with the producer...Now Models are producers, just look at the shift on clips4sale from guys like us, shooting content to the models just blowing it out of the water. Fans like dealing directly with the talent. No one can stop this or slow it down.

Proves their content is king over your content.


However, if you can't shoot better content than a model. Why should she work for less money?

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21297499)
And those models' clips that are sold as downloads will end up posted as copyright infringement. Some models don't care -- others leave the business for this reason.

I don't need that small money and the headaches -- thank you.

Take the models who don't care and teach them to shoot content of themselves or send them to someone who can shoot content. Content that can be used by yourselves and affiliates to promote those girls. You can also make money by selling xlovecam as an alternative to the actual "star" girl.

It's easy.

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Smart Fred (Post 21297982)
I've stopped searching to provide more content to get more visitors and set-up sites that are teasing and helpful to people ready to pay and that are searching for quality porn.

At the opposite of what Paul said, new technologies are helping me to sell memberships.

You're concentrating on quality content. Which is what I'm saying.

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21298132)
I have a handful of blogs that get organic traffic.

There was a time in this industry when you couldn't buy traffic - you had to get traffic on your own.

That was back in the day od Newsgroups. Since then it's been possible to buy traffic. Bought spots on TGP and link sites.

Maybe you meant there was a time when you couldn't buy traffic. :winkwink:

Barry-xlovecam 11-14-2016 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21298969)
Take the models who don't care and teach them to shoot content of themselves or send them to someone who can shoot content. Content that can be used by yourselves and affiliates to promote those girls. You can also make money by selling xlovecam as an alternative to the actual "star" girl.

It's easy.

You do it anyway you like.


I guess you didn't get the memo:

The webcam and the porn tube were distributive innovations.
The 'cams' industry will get disrupted eventually -- think Uber.
However, there will always be a need of 'marketing channels'.

Paul Markham 11-14-2016 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21299296)
You do it anyway you like.


I guess you didn't get the memo:

The webcam and the porn tube were distributive innovations.
The 'cams' industry will get disrupted eventually -- think Uber.
However, there will always be a need of 'marketing channels'.

As someone who doesn't profit from the cam business. Why should I?

Also, we're talking about today, not yesterday or the future.

Yes, there will always be marketing channels, just not the outdated types.

You're problem Barry is, you're limited to what you and xlovecam can do. If it were impossible to to. Why are others doing it?


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