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Bladewire 07-27-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917539)
Pence arrives at the Capitol. It's going down tonight it seems.

Yep Republicans pass evil shit in the dead of night in Thursdays, and leave DC early Friday to avoid the shit storm.

The con is that Graham & McCain are relying on a promise by Paul Ryan not to make it into law in the house, and they'll vote Yes now, and when he does there will be fake outrage. Paul Ryan is a self entitled hardcore ass fucker.

And when they hand us shit on a platter they'll say "it was better than Obamacare, Obamacare was dead"

Axeman 07-27-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917539)
Pence arrives at the Capitol. It's going down tonight it seems.

Looks like they plan to pass this skinny repeal and full bill next.

If it goes to conference, this thing is going to truly end up a bloated, pork filled pile of shit.

Bladewire 07-27-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 21917551)
If it goes to conference, this thing is going to truly end up a bloated, pork filled pile of shit.

Yep #ThanksTrump

Trumpcare will be worse than Obamacare mark my words. Trump doesn't give a fuck about anyone but his bank account, same with the Republican Senators

onwebcam 07-27-2017 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21917557)
Yep #ThanksTrump

Trumpcare will be worse than Obamacare mark my words. Trump doesn't give a fuck about anyone but his bank account, same with the Republican Senators

Democrats on the Senate floor admitting obamacare failed and they will work with Republicans. As I said it will be a bipartisan fucking. Now get off your high horse.

I didn't expect this. Republicans actually get to fulfill their promise of repeal but later we get slapped right back down with the full bill which will bring back mandates as a compromise.

Paul Markham 07-27-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21916810)
Yes, I'm sure they write down massive inflated losses for tax reasons. Even more so once it's guaranteed.

You don't think the cost of customers not paying isn't built into the cost of those who do pay? :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 07-27-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21916825)
Which is the point of the video.

When people have insurance many of them don't care how much stuff costs because they are only paying their deductible or a small co-pay.

Which is so inflated to be ludicrous.

onwebcam 07-27-2017 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21917587)
You don't think the cost of customers not paying isn't built into the cost of those who do pay? :1orglaugh

Not everyone that doesn't have insurance doesn't pay. It's proven right here in this thread it really doesn't make a difference if you do or you don't unless you have major medical issues. One of the Senators that last spoke said they were getting input from one insurer that said they reduced their own costs by making the provider accept a certain price. If they accepted that price the insurance company didn't pay them anything. As in the insured paid the price. I don't think he realized he sort of let the cat out of the bag. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 07-27-2017 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21917083)
So what are you going to do about it? Fuck all ...

What will Americans do about it? Up till now Jack Shit.

What they should be doing about it is voting out all the politicians who allowed the system to rip them off in favour of the lobbyists. All you lot can do about is argue that Democrats or Republicans will rip you off the less.

onwebcam 07-27-2017 10:25 PM

Skinny repeal denied. On to the bipartisan megafuck.

Axeman 07-27-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917740)
Skinny repeal denied. On to the bipartisan megafuck.

It was always going to be a pile of shit, no matter what way they go. Too many in the Republican party are not really Republicans. And far to few conservatives to get the bloated bullshit out. The result will be crap no matter which way it goes.

Bladewire 07-27-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917740)
Skinny repeal denied. On to the bipartisan megafuck.

I wish Republicans wouldn't put us through this shit they should have worked with Democrats to work out the links years ago but turtle head broke the rules, for a year stole a SCOTUS seat, etc.

onwebcam 07-27-2017 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21917752)
I wish Republicans wouldn't put us through this shit they should have worked with Democrats to work out the links years ago but turtle head broke the rules, for a year stole a SCOTUS seat, etc.

It was all planned this way by those who wrote the bill, the insurance industry.

Schumer is on again right now proposing a "fresh start." Dedicating it to McCain.

It's all been a shit show.

Bladewire 07-27-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917767)

It's all been a shit show.

Agreed.

Best of health to us man, we'll need it :thumbsup

Axeman 07-27-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917767)
It was all planned this way by those who wrote the bill, the insurance industry.

Schumer is on again right now proposing a "fresh start." Dedicating it to McCain.

It's all been a shit show.

I hope its a GOP bloodbath in 2018.

onwebcam 07-27-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 21917773)
I hope its a GOP bloodbath in 2018.

It will be a bloodbath for any incumbent if goes the way I think. I can tell you one thing I'll dump every penny I can into ousting my States Reps Democrat and Republican alike.

Axeman 07-27-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21917782)
It will be a bloodbath for any incumbent if goes the way I think. I can tell you one thing I'll dump every penny I can into ousting my State Reps Democrat and Republican alike.

It's very hard to go against the incumbent machine in a primary. Especially in the Senate. But you need to punish and send a message, even if it means you elect a Democrat to make the message crystal clear. What's the point of electing a Republican if they are just liars and not really Republicans anyway.

I don't agree with a lot of the Liberal agenda, but one thing I do respect about the Democrats is they say who they are, and they stick together as one unit until the death.

Barry-xlovecam 07-28-2017 05:16 AM

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[P]resident Trump, meanwhile, suggested on Twitter he would ?let Obamacare implode? before seeking a bipartisan deal. ?3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down,? he wrote. ?As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal. Watch!?... https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...l-plan/535209/
What a bag of shit Trump is -- like a spiteful little child -- SHAMEFUL!

BTW, Trump's primary insurer is Medicare at 71. It's easy for him to watch the citizens he is supposed to lead -- suffer in financial burden and in some cases sickness from his spitefulness.

onwebcam 07-28-2017 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21918256)
What a bag of shit Trump is -- like a spiteful little child -- SHAMEFUL!

BTW, Trump's primary insurer is Medicare at 71. It's easy for him to watch the citizens he is supposed to lead -- suffer in financial burden and in some cases sickness from his spitefulness.

Still playing sides eh? You're choosing the wrong side. Washington as a whole is about to put the final nail in the middle class coffin.

BaldBastard 07-28-2017 06:20 AM

Until Trump can sit down for two hours like Obama and just talk the pros and cons of healthcare, America will get nothing.


onwebcam 07-28-2017 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 21918340)
Until Trump can sit down for two hours like Obama and just talk the pros and cons of healthcare, America will get nothing.

Yes because that worked out so well the first time :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BaldBastard 07-28-2017 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21918364)
Yes because that worked out so well the first time :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well having no plan and no idea of how the health system even works hasn't worked out too well for Trump has it?

If you go back and listen to a great leader, like Obama was, he explains the plan, the short comings, the failures and what's required to fix it. And admits he will be the first to back any new plan that works. He also explains why a straight repel with no plan was doomed to fail.

Rochard 07-28-2017 07:17 AM

Everything Trump promised us has been a lie.

He told us Mexico was going to pay for this wall, but it seems we just spent $1.6 billion on it - just yesterday they voted on it.

He told us he was going to fix the VA. Turns out they haven't done anything. The new computer software they were started working on back during Obama's term hasn't even selected what company is going to write it.

I didn't vote for this fucker.

BaldBastard 07-28-2017 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21918499)
Everything Trump promised us has been a lie.

He told us Mexico was going to pay for this wall, but it seems we just spent $1.6 billion on it - just yesterday they voted on it.

He told us he was going to fix the VA. Turns out they haven't done anything. The new computer software they were started working on back during Obama's term hasn't even selected what company is going to write it.

I didn't vote for this fucker.

I promise you trump and family has done a lot... for the family of course. ;)

NatalieK 07-28-2017 07:32 AM

The President doesn´t seem to know what presidency is about & thinks he´s god as he punishes a state because "one of the few republicans" senator Lisa Murkowski voted against TrumpCare.

Trump Just Threatened To Punish An Entire State Because Their Senator Didn't Vote For Trumpcare

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Some of the plans and projects that Trump is threatening to axe include “nominations of Alaskans to Interior posts, an effort to build a road out of King Cove through the Izembek National Wildlife Refuge, and future opportunities to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and expand drilling in the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska.”

Bladewire 07-28-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21918544)
The President doesn´t seem to know what presidency is about & thinks he´s god as he punishes a state because "one of the few republicans" senator Lisa Murkowski voted against TrumpCare.

Trump Just Threatened To Punish An Entire State Because Their Senator Didn't Vote For Trumpcare

And this is just the beginning.

They're going to do evil shit to make Obamacare "fail" and millions of people will pay skyrocketing costs and some will die.

Trump has shown he's an impotent coward that can't even fix Obamacare, so he's going to punish others, like Alaska, for his failings.

BaldBastard 07-28-2017 07:55 AM

Some of the plans and projects that Trump is threatening to axe include

a) an effort tohabuild a road out of King Covehathrough the Izembek National Wildlife Refuge

b) future opportunities to drill in thehaArctic National Wildlife Refuge

With no idea of the agenda.. is that all bad?

Barry-xlovecam 07-28-2017 09:33 AM

Here is the truth of the matter: Hospitals are only obligated to render emergency traumatic services to the uninsured. Unless, your injuries are not from some accident, or some internal injury that may cause you to bleed out and die on the spot or suffer immediate damage -- they will stabilize you (the 'victim') and transport you away from most private non profit hospitals. You will be sent to the county supported 'shoot and stab' hospital around here -- and maybe survive.

Good luck to the winners :2 cents:

onwebcam 07-28-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21918874)
Here is the truth of the matter: Hospitals are only obligated to render emergency traumatic services to the uninsured. Unless, your injuries are not from some accident, or some internal injury that may cause you to bleed out and die on the spot or suffer immediate damage -- they will stabilize you (the 'victim') and transport you away from most private non profit hospitals. You will be sent to the county supported 'shoot and stab' hospital around here -- and maybe survive.

Good luck to the winners :2 cents:

But I thought being a liberal meant peace, love and caring for others? So what you're really telling me is that you honestly don't give a shit about anyone but yourself? hmmm You think it's funny that people who are penalized (paying for those freeloaders) for not having something will die and those that are getting it free will live? So you fully understand that this will eventually send the middle class tumbling into the lower class? Elitist much?

Bladewire 07-28-2017 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21919258)
But I thought being a liberal meant peace, love and caring for others? So what you're really telling me is that you honestly don't give a shit about anyone but yourself? hmmm You think it's funny that people who are penalized (paying for those freeloaders) for not having something will die and those that are getting it free will live? So you fully understand that this will eventually send the middle class tumbling into the lower class. Elitist much?

People who box others into narrow stereotypes could have very lonely lives. You should get out and meet more people :2 cents:

onwebcam 07-28-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21919279)
People who box others into narrow stereotypes could have very lonely lives. You should get out and meet more people :2 cents:

I've been out all day. What about you? And you're one to speak about "boxing others into narrow stereotypes"

Barry-xlovecam 07-28-2017 02:10 PM

They will leave your ass on a curb onwebcam -- you will see ... Fuck you and your kind.
In fact -- you probably left your own ass on the curb long ago.

C H R I S 07-28-2017 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21919300)
I've been out all day. What about you? And you're one to speak about "boxing others into narrow stereotypes"

How'd that work out for you, they passed nothing and gave the fuck up.

Obamacare is here to stay.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 07-28-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21919966)
How'd that work out for you, they passed nothing and gave the fuck up.

Obamacare is here to stay.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


I called it 2 weeks ago. 07-12-2017
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...1251-weve.html

The real bill has yet to be seen and won't be seen. Just like Obamacare.

"a group of moderates on both sides of aisle have quietly been talking for weeks to try to find some common ground."
Moderate Senators Seek Bipartisan Path Forward on Health Care - NBC News

onwebcam 07-28-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21919477)
They will leave your ass on a curb onwebcam -- you will see ... Fuck you and your kind.
In fact -- you probably left your own ass on the curb long ago.

Actually I'm on a corner.

C H R I S 07-28-2017 08:15 PM

"Republicans will pass nothing more than an insurance company bailout."

You called what, they passed absolutely nothing,, with a fucking majority in both houses and the executive office.

They never had an actual plan, just a big tax break for the uber rich.

onwebcam 07-28-2017 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 21920023)
"Republicans will pass nothing more than an insurance company bailout."

You called what, they passed absolutely nothing,, with a fucking majority in both houses and the executive office.

They never had an actual plan, just a big tax break for the uber rich.

Patience. It will come. The show isn't over.

Barry-xlovecam 07-28-2017 10:36 PM

The party of no becomes the party of nothing ... why the surprise?

https://s4.postimg.org/ccljvkanh/DF0s_FZKXYAERDBB.jpg

@trumptards #failurefriday


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