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The AfD are showing 3rd in the polls atm, if there's another CDU/SPD deal, AfD become the main opposition party.
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Of course second generation unemployed have given up and now live on benefits. The young the media portray are middle class and up who still have a future. http://media.ycharts.com/charts/80c0...beab9898c0.png |
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No, at the moment most are doing well. They are profiting from trade EU agreements set up to favour them. When the EU breaks up, or the EU debt lands in Germany;s lap. Things will change. I point out a growing Right Wing movement because of the ongoing mass migration to Germany. |
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Refugees = People who flee war zones and stop in the first safe country. Look up the legal facts and see where I'm wrong. There should be no illegal migrants in Germany. RThere are no refugees. They would be in Turkey or Africa. |
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Irak - 13.385 Afghanistan - 8503 Eritrea - 6.815 Iran 5.134 Nigeria - 4.516 Turkey - 4.432 Somalia - 4.170 Russia - 3.211 How many of these people stopped in the first safe country to register for Assylum? Unknown citizenship - 4.514 Would that be the ones who threw their passports overseas when they got into the boats? But once again you give us the world you want to see and not the facts. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ormer-uk-envoy https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ef72ebd24027 European nations WILL be made to share illegal migrants says Juncker | World | News | Express.co.uk (Good luck with that, the illegals won't stay where they are put, if they don't like it.) https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/255358...nd-the-crisis/ Illegal immigration to Europe shows sharp rise - Telegraph There are a lot more FACTS for youto refer to. |
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Comparig chalk and bollox doesn't mean you have it right. |
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This is Bullshit. "this problem can also not be resolved in a few years because we locked them out from everything for too long time. we stole their land, their natural ressources and paid them with glas perls. and BECAUSE it is much easier to deal with glas perls with an under educated, we did not want them wiser." We did not steal their land, it's still there and now belongs to them. The problem is the wealthy won't share it with the poor of their own race. Many of the countries the migrants are coming from are their own people murdering each other. Then there's the problem with overpopulation. Rather than taking contracaeptives to limit the number of children born, do the land can sustain the population. They produce too many children. More bullshit. "if we want to change that we should stop to lock them out and give the the same chances as we have." How do we do that when the culture destroys what we have fought for? Many of the countries migrants flee from have built up manufacturing, have the natural resources with billions per month but only for the few. Of their own people. More bullshit. "you are same paul - you have easy solutions for complex and very difficult problems. the only difference is, that your solutions are thousands of years old and they never worked. not in human together and not in economy." You are the one with easy solutions, that will never work. The difference is your solutions don't fix the 1,000 years old cultures of the countries the migrants are coming from. How will you stop Shia killing Sunni or Sunni kill Shia or too many babies being born or the chief of the tribe taking all the wealth? My solution is to stop them coming into the West where they still maintain those customs. You live in a world where you believe they all want to be just like us. It took 1,000 years for us to become who we are today. 1,000 years ago you and UI would be serfs who were owned by the Lord of the Manor who sent us to war, owned our land, owned everything we had, etc. You think these migrants will become littie Europeans just like us. The facts prove you wrong. |
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I rest my case. And if you come up with the Russians or Americans doing it. Think back to who started it. The migrants are not telling the authorities where they came from. Because they don't want to return to a country where there own people are killing them. |
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If you didn't give a flying fuck you would stop posting your delusional view of the world. |
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i AM GERMAN - i speak the language and understand the culture. you think because you live in the near of austria and germany you understand anything? you do not even speak czech (the country where you live since centuries) how comes that you suddenly speak german to understand what is going on there ? i speak all languages from all countries where i live - you not. so your only fucking information sources are the ones what every fucking brainwashed here is using and then tell us about how the world is. normally older people should be wiser - but maybe there is a time when they become childish and dumb again. i assume that is what happens to you. you have already trumpīs wall around your head. stay in there - i give a fuck. |
The problem is the EU. Merkel will not only win the elections in Germany, but also form a the biggest European party. Therefor she has control of the whole EU, while if all people Europe could vote, she would be voted away. But the European people can't vote for that. That is called modern democracy.
Germany is doing well. But other European countries will suffer. Saw a reportage and even the people in favour of the EU says that the Euro will fail because of that. It would be much better for some countries if they left the euro. Cause it is; Germany uber alles! |
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Amazing how people still think ILEGAL migrants are ok and have right to go where they wish etc. And yes refugee's are meant to go to the first "safe" country. Which they don't. They usually manage to skip 15 countries to get to their country of choice (and benefits). |
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And you do give a fuck, as soon as someone writes anything that resembles criticism against EU or immigration, you're here spewing propaganda just like propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels. So there you have it Thommy, you have more in common with the nazis than you think... You're good at one thing Thommy, making things up, continue with that you clown. |
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Then start act like one, be a man and support your German women for ones, but yea you don't give a fuck. You support foreign men from middle east the luxury to rape your own people's women, you disgrace of a man...:2 cents: |
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Thommy, here are the numbers. Is BBC good enough for you?
Migrant crisis: Migration to Europe explained in seven charts - BBC News 2015: 1.3 million http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...-Asylum-01.png Keep in mind these are the OFFICIAL RECORDED numbers, which of course leaves out hundreds of thousands, if not millions, illegals. 2016: over 1.2 million File:Asylum applications (non-EU) in the EU-28 Member States, 2006–2016 (thousands) YB17.png - Statistics Explained Is this official Eurostat site a good enough source for you? And once again, these are OFFICIALLY RECORDED ASYLUM APPLICATIONS, so you can imagine the massive number of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS they don't count on these charts. If you can use logic the real numbers since the mess in Syria are probably 4 to 5 MILLION, if not more. Not even counting the 3 MILLION who are in Turkey right now! There. I wonder what your excuse will be this time. |
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but your fucking problem is the same problem as paul have. you guys ARE fake news and you know why? because you do not have the smallest clue about economy and you find an easy explanation of a very complex topic. than you find others with no clue and you give them your easy solution and because NONE of you have a clue of that you believe in the easy but wrong solution. 1. all your arguments are finally financial arguments but to UNDETSTAND i.e why US and other countries have an export deficit or import surplus you need to understand how economy works. the first argument why that have happend to USA was because USA have heating up the local market by making more depts and pushed it to the local economy. that was leading to the fact that the US local economy has recovered faster than the rest of the world. with other words the LOCAL market was already strong while the international markets still was suffering. you can not sell to international markets when they do not have money. but if you try to balance it with local markets it automaticly leads to more imports and less exports. 2. you guys have the fucking stupid idea to destroy the glabal market - that means you destroy USA because without exports USA can not survive. you would be on the level of somalia within 5 years. 3. the MOST imports to USA are imports which are used for further processing - with other words 70% of all parts of US-cars (USAīs biggest export industry) are made with imported parts. if these parts would not be imported from other countries there would NOT BE a US car industry any more. 4. if these parts are made in china or india, the US car industry doe not only pay the worker there, they pay for the boss of this company too and they pay for the delivering. with other words: if you bring ONLY the indian worker to USA this company can safe a lot of costs make more profit and could pay the american works even a better salary. and this (legal or illegal low paid) worker would spend a big part of what he makes in USA and with his spend he saves even more jobs. means: importing is not cheaper and will not bring the money back in the own country by people who spend it there. 5. your idea (and pauls) is to get rid of all that. USA car industry should produce with high paid US workers. but they will produce cars what are not to sell because of their price. remember: US cars are exportet that much because they are MUCH cheaper as i.e. a German car. means: at the end of your idea there is no car factory left what can give people work. and on top of that there will also not be a buyer of machines outside anymore because if they can not sell products to another country they do not have the need to buy the machines to produce them. 6. a country lives at the end of what it produces and sells. if the renter of a cheap house is an illegal mexican worker he does MORE for the economy as someone who makes so much money that he can not even spend it. and he does not even have to pay tax for that because the tax he pays indirectly by his consumption. again - that does NOT MEAN that i support illegal immigrants but for a very other reason as the economic reason. i know that these people would be always illegal and the next step is the step to be criminal. NOBODY not even Merkel did ever want illegals in Germany. What happend to Germany was simply the fact that it was one of the few countries who had to handle a mass of immigrants and refugees at once because there was no solidarity in the european union. at the end of the day only 4 or 5 countries did what all EU countries and non EU countries have signed for. if you blame Merkel for stand on her word you are blaming the wrong person. the unreliable one sits in washington and talks bullshit in blue one day and on the next day he changes the color but it is still bullshit. what i can see from you guys is that you do not have the smalles education in economy because if that would be the case you would see this things different. so stop to believe in people who are proven nocluers and believe in the existance of experts. if expert knowledge is not wanted anymore we can give the world right away in the hands of dumbs who believe in what they can understand but not in the truth. |
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a. this is not the number who are approved for asylum (50% of them are already back) b. these are NOT immigrants c. this number of 1,2 million stands against a number of nearly 750 million citizens. if you want to tell me that 750 million are unable to help 1,2 million i do not want to be one of your friends or having an accident when only you are around to help me. i am really sorry that you are unable to look in the mirror and understand that a brainwashed is looking out there. |
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You need a couple more rape cases: 1) 39 year old Syrian (Came to Ger February 2016 from Aleppo) convicted for raping a 23 year old passed out woman. Sentenced to 3 years in prison. Mann (39) vergewaltigt bewusstlose Frau (23) â?? dreieinhalb Jahre Haft | Freie Zeiten 2nd Source: Asylbewerber vergewaltigt Frau in Nebra | Naumburger Tageblatt/MZ 2) 21 year old raped outside a supermarket last Sunday evening in Mannheim. Perpetrator had an Arabic look. Mannheim: Unbekannter vergeht sich an 21-Jähriger | Freie Zeiten Police report POL-MA: Mannheim-Neckarstadt: Unbekannter vergeht sich an Frau - Polizei sucht Zeugen | Pressemitteilung PolizeiprÃĪsidium Mannheim This was the second case in proximity of Mannheim in just a few days. |
I thought that the behavior of FC Koln fans in London was very interesting.
It was like the shackles had been removed, by leaving the country in such large numbers. A kind of 'payback' for New Years Eve, in a city (London) where multiculturalism is rampant. Maybe real Germans need to leave the country, and return at a later time. They'll rise again, I'm sure of it :thumbsup |
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if you would not limit your searches on refugees or foreign people. and if you would not only use right oriented media. btw. there where also a few cases last month where dutch guys and us citizens have been involved in such cases. what shall we do with them? and what shall we do with the german right radicals who are the group with the BIGGEST increase of crimes? so WHY dod ou not explain us what the reason for THIS HERE IS ?????? or do you not want to speak about the shit in your own pants? |
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2. Asylum applicants from outside the EU are not immigrants? What are they then? 3. Since Syria the real numbers are close to 5 million and counting. Add in 3 million from Turkey, because when the EU crosses Erdogan, he said he will not stop them anymore from travelling further into Europe. And you can count on it that will happen, so we have as of now 8 million total. And counting. 4. 8 million is HALF OF THE NETHERLANDS and WHOLE OF SWITZERLAND but noooo it's not that much if you look at 510 million, it is only 1,5% right? Let's keep those borders open for the next decades and let everyone from northern and central africa come here and spread their friendly culture. It's gonna be Utopia! Everyone agrees, leftwing and rightwing and in between, that this is a migrant CRISIS. It isn't being called a crisis for nothing, you idiot. |
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Apart from solidarity, which at this point is overdue, Germany didn't have to handle anything but offer some strong solutions how to house refugees without letting them into Europe. I'm all up for quota refugees though, you see my solidarity right there. With true weak leadership we now have criminals running around in Europe and terrorists without knowing who they are or what they do. When they do get asylum, they can move into any EU country as they please. Liberal/left stupidity...:2 cents: The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is. Massive camps in North Africa - Middle East would solve all this and funded by the EU. The financial power to get something of that magnitude going is just a ballpark compared of the consequences of letting these incompatible refugees into Europe. |
I'm still waiting for the first Islamic Party getting into the election of one of Europe's democratic countries. When that's happening, you can see for yourself how fragile our democracies truly are. Not saying one will win majority in the near future but interesting and scary how things can change very quickly considering how much more Muslims are reproducing compared with natives.
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If they are recognized as refugees under the Geneva Convention or as persons entitled to asylum under the Basic Law, they are granted a three-year residence permit. They must be threatened by the persecution because of their race, nationality, political conviction, or belonging to a particular social group by the state or whomever. If, on the other hand, they are recognized as so-called "subsidiary rights" because they are threatened with "serious harm" such as the death penalty, torture or arbitrary violence in a civil war, they only receive a one-year residence permit which can be extended by two years. The same is true of those who are merely given the right to live on the streets, because they are threatened with a real danger to life, limb or freedom during deportation. [/QUOTE] 3. Since Syria the real numbers are close to 5 million and counting. Add in 3 million from Turkey, because when the EU crosses Erdogan, he said he will not stop them anymore from travelling further into Europe. And you can count on it that will happen, so we have as of now 8 million total. And counting. [/QUOTE] we have millions of turks in Germany since the late 60s. most of their children can not even speak turkish anymore and they are fully integrated Germans. so nothing what we did not already handle but your argument sghould not be erdogan - it should be WHAT HE IS. he is a right radical nationalist - so a person with the same mind as you what caused all those problems. Quote:
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and the second crisis is that this again caused a crisis in human empathy as we can perfectly see on you. we could easily handle this problem when we would work on stopping the reasons why this people have to leave their countries. but again: the ones who caused it where same right wing, nationalist, egoistic idiots as all you trump supporter here with no idea and no interest what happens outside of the own house door. all you think is ME ME ME - and than you wonder why others start to think the same. you guys are the desease but you will never accept or understand it. hitler and the nazis did also not understand it. |
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HOW CAN YOU QUOTE TRAGEDY you dumbfuck? [/QUOTE] With true weak leadership we now have criminals running around in Europe and terrorists without knowing who they are or what they do. When they do get asylum, they can move into any EU country as they please. Liberal/left stupidity...:2 cents: The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is.[/QUOTE] i think they will pay you millions to have you and see in the moment when they arrive that they are criminal or liars. you really should ask for this job you genius because I am pretty sure that with this mind you are not able to do any other job somehow good. Quote:
50 yers ago ? 5 years ago ? 1 week before they came? do you have a single clue how complicated the diplomatic process is to create such a camp in another country where you do not even know who is the leader at this moment? you are full of fucking illusions and you think all others are too stupid to see the nearest things. do you think they are all sleeping the whole day? or do you really think that YOU would be doing better? always the same: no plan no clue but a big mouth. you are the watcher on the cheapest seat of the football field and think you are the best player if they would let you play. YOU ARE A CLOWN !!! |
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The Arabs made a deal with the British during the First World War. It was that they rule a United Middle East after the Ottomans were beaten. The Ottomans being Muslim and running the Middle East with horrible atrocities the committed, including genocide.
The British rightly broke that promise. Can you imagine the Middle East ruled by the Saudi Royal Family? They broke up the Middle East with a ruler, separating countries in straight lines. That still exists today, the Muslims weren't able to throw out the British divides and apply ones that suited them better. Without the Western Alliance fighting in Muslim countries, the Middle East would be ruled by ISIS, Al Queda, Al-Shabaab, Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban and a few more terrorist groups. Unless they're run like Iran or Saudi. |
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now I do not pretend that I know egyptian politics and media like drax does...I am basing my personal observation of factual reality and actual numbers that are not up for discussion... in fact, christians are safer pretty much anywhere than in the USA... drax claims to know about german media better than germans based on a 4 week vacation :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh @drax how long have you lived in germany? <----- bet he avoids answering again LOL |
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you still do not undestand how worlwide economy works and this is why you should shut your mouth on that topic because i did never read that much nonsense as you write here. even when i do not pay personal tax in germany (what i do not have to do because i do not live there any more) i bring a lot of money into the german economy with what i do and that produces taxes IN germany. if you guys would not be that afrid to using your brain you would barley understand that a bit better - but you use your brain only for finding excuses and wrong numbers and interpretations for your strange ideologies. you would be perfect victims for scientology and you should praise your gods that you can never meet jim jones who would bring you to jonestown and brainwashs you til you proudly drin the poison. a real world can not work with rules designed by reality rejectors. |
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The solidarity you speak of is fine when it comes to real refugees, not rapefugees and luxury immigrants, which a majority of the immigrants from middle east and africa is.[/QUOTE] i think they will pay you millions to have you and see in the moment when they arrive that they are criminal or liars. you really should ask for this job you genius because I am pretty sure that with this mind you are not able to do any other job somehow good. hahaha - and they should build them WHEN ???? 50 yers ago ? 5 years ago ? 1 week before they came? do you have a single clue how complicated the diplomatic process is to create such a camp in another country where you do not even know who is the leader at this moment? you are full of fucking illusions and you think all others are too stupid to see the nearest things. do you think they are all sleeping the whole day? or do you really think that YOU would be doing better? always the same: no plan no clue but a big mouth. you are the watcher on the cheapest seat of the football field and think you are the best player if they would let you play. YOU ARE A CLOWN !!![/QUOTE] Don't get emotional on me now Thommy Goebbels. I don't pretend to be anything but a concerned citizen. Quote:
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Obviously majority of EU decided this together, did you really think Greece, Italy and Spain been taking decisions on their own? You don't know much Thommy but act like you do, your one sided view on the political system is unhealthy and for you it's only gonna get worse, European right wing parties booming cause EU is failing. You support terrorists and rapists, be proud of yourself. |
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