GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Have the Germans lost their fucking minds ?? (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1279635)

thommy 09-22-2017 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22009859)

You support terrorists and rapists, be proud of yourself.

you did not answer only ONE of my arguments - but this is why it does not make sense to discuss with people who put criminal complaints against the white elephants on the streets and call themselves concerned citizens.

i ask my self if you ever fly in a plane and how you tell them how to build this plane because you are concerned they did not do it right.
this is exactly what you are doing here - you fight about something what you do not understand. if you do that in a plane and you would be the only passenger i would not care - but unfortunately it would not be your seat row only what crashes.

so don´t touch the engine of a plane where a lot of smarter people than you have a seat.
go to find an own nazi planet and do what you want there.

DraX 09-22-2017 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22009867)
you did not answer only ONE of my arguments

I actually did twice, but you got your head too far up your ass to see anything. No point discussing anything with you if you can't read simple English.

I'll be back on Sunday to congratulate AfD for their +15% election result. :thumbsup

Paul Markham 09-22-2017 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22009847)
i don´t know what my tax have to do with this topic. it does not matter where i pay taxes in a globalized world because in a global trade market the money runs from country to country.

you still do not undestand how worlwide economy works and this is why you should shut your mouth on that topic because i did never read that much nonsense as you write here.

even when i do not pay personal tax in germany (what i do not have to do because i do not live there any more) i bring a lot of money into the german economy with what i do and that produces taxes IN germany.

if you guys would not be that afrid to using your brain you would barley understand that a bit better - but you use your brain only for finding excuses and wrong numbers and interpretations for your strange ideologies.

you would be perfect victims for scientology and you should praise your gods that you can never meet jim jones who would bring you to jonestown and brainwashs you til you proudly drin the poison.

a real world can not work with rules designed by reality rejectors.

Taxes pay the bills it takes to run a modern country. If you're in a country with a National Debt you're not paying enough taxes. If that country took in 100,000 migrants who aren't truly contributing. you need to pay more in taxes.

Your stance is that mass migration is good. I can prove it's not and have done many times. Are you paying enough taxes to make up for the costs of your policies?

Now, do you understand why the taxes you pay are important to this debate?

I give you well thought out logical arguments, like why people in the ME and Africa are suffering. You don't have an answer.

Paul Markham 09-22-2017 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22009867)
you did not answer only ONE of my arguments - but this is why it does not make sense to discuss with people who put criminal complaints against the white elephants on the streets and call themselves concerned citizens.

i ask my self if you ever fly in a plane and how you tell them how to build this plane because you are concerned they did not do it right.
this is exactly what you are doing here - you fight about something what you do not understand. if you do that in a plane and you would be the only passenger i would not care - but unfortunately it would not be your seat row only what crashes.

so don´t touch the engine of a plane where a lot of smarter people than you have a seat.
go to find an own nazi planet and do what you want there.

You do not answer my arguments. Let's start with the extra taxes required to pay the bills of mass migration. Then we can move onto why Islamist countries have been killing each other from before they were Islamist countries and still are.

Then we can look at Africa where millions live in poverty and a few make billions. Like Mugabe who took a thriving well-run country and fucked it up, deliberately. He's one of many, I could list them for you, all run by people of their own race. Africa under European rule was the source of $100 of billions a year. Now many African countries rely on aid. Why?

Mickey_ 09-22-2017 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22006473)
Paul will explain it tomorrow morning after 2 Min Google...he will have charts too...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22006749)
Germany's second main party is a clone of the Merkel's party. The problem is that while most of the EU is doing badly Germany is doing well, not much of a United Europe there. When Germans are landed with the bills for the migrants and the failing EU States, the tables will turn.

Should the EU give the UK a bad deal, it will hit German manufacturing like a brick.

https://fullfact.org/media/uploads/M...tries%20RB.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22006773)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Right on cue !:thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I name thee The Oracle of GFY

Tasty1 09-22-2017 07:23 AM

My conclusion is simple. Thommy made good money from Germany during the time that the minimum wage was 850 Euro and the elderly got deported to Poland, Chech and other cheap countries because they couldn't afford to live in Germany anymore.

Merkel and Thommy are the same; Deutschland Uber Alles. Not realizing (nor caring) that the whole EU bubble went bad for a lot of countries and that there are no options for those countries to get rid of the Giants debts, while Germany is filling his pockets.

Cause of the position of Merkels party in Europe, she can dictated Europe what to do. So with the mentality of Thommmy and the Merkels it would be best for some countries to take care of themselves. Greece would have been recovered already if they could take the future in their own hands. But they suffer from Germany and the Immigrants. Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.

And than we must be happy Merkwl is ruling Germany? Don't think so. And that is why a lot of people don't care if the nazi's are growing in Germany. That is the only way to beat the system. There are no alternatives to vote for, just like in Holland. When the system is broken, people will vote for other parties i hope. The fastest growing party in Holland is against the Euro.

MaDalton 09-22-2017 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22009993)
Even Stefan left Germany cause the tax system is crazy there.

don't put things in my mouth that i never said and that are not even true

Tasty1 09-22-2017 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22010017)
don't put things in my mouth that i never said and that are not even true

By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.

klinton 09-22-2017 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22010235)
By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.

rather Czech girls were much cheaper to shoot content with......

nico-t 09-22-2017 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22010241)
rather Czech girls were much cheaper to shoot content with......

so he moved for the cheap whores. Noble

thommy 09-22-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22009917)
You do not answer my arguments. Let's start with the extra taxes required to pay the bills of mass migration. Then we can move onto why Islamist countries have been killing each other from before they were Islamist countries and still are.

what EXTRA taxes?
do you know that Germany have since years a budgetary surplus ???

19 billion and 20 billion just in the past 2 years.

how can that be with all this fucking costs they have?

go and find me a country which operates a policy of foreclosure according to your desire that can show such numbers.

Quote:

Then we can look at Africa where millions live in poverty and a few make billions. Like Mugabe who took a thriving well-run country and fucked it up, deliberately. He's one of many, I could list them for you, all run by people of their own race. Africa under European rule was the source of $100 of billions a year. Now many African countries rely on aid. Why?
why ? because they got the power but not the education.
it is ALL a question of education - but unfortunately we can not educate them in their own countries because of fuckers like mugabe.

and as soon the western world starts to intervene and kills the "bad boys" like saddam or gaddhafi it becomes worse.
because what is changed there than is that a big corruption is changing into a giant corruption.

you try to explain here you want to do something for the poors abut you do the opposite. you are a tool in the hands of all those corrupt politicians you hate so much. and you do not even realize that.

and when it comes to the point where some politician is doing something what at least make sense you complain again.
that shows me that you do not have the smallest clue of what you are talking abot. because IF you would HAVE arguments you would be able to show us WHERE ON THIS FUCKING PLANET your ideas are working.

you know when you want to change things you have to have not only a better idea or bigger vision than others - you need a PROVE and you have non and you will NEVER have one because you are living in wonderland - far far away from reality.

thommy 09-22-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22009993)
My conclusion is simple. Thommy made good money from Germany during the time that the minimum wage was 850 Euro and the elderly got deported to Poland, Chech and other cheap countries because they couldn't afford to live in Germany anymore.

nice dream you have. but no i made money i ALL my life and wherever i lived.
and you know why? because i am ready for the future when you are still fighting if there is one and how it will be.

and if there is one thing i am well know for that it is the fact that i never did a mistake in my forecasts.

Quote:

Merkel and Thommy are the same; Deutschland Uber Alles.
now you see that you did not understand a thing about me or german or merkel.

i am the EXTREME opposite of "deutschland deutschland übver alles" - YOU ARE the supporter of one who gives a shit on other nations by declearing AMERICA FIRST
(what IS the english translation for "Deutschland Deutschland über alles")

Quote:

Not realizing (nor caring) that the whole EU bubble went bad for a lot of countries and that there are no options for those countries to get rid of the Giants debts, while Germany is filling his pockets.
this countries you are talking about would be bankrupt already if Germany would not help.

Quote:

Greece would have been recovered already if they could take the future in their own hands. But they suffer from Germany and the Immigrants.
next bullshit. you do not even seem to know that the most of the greece depth to the european union is secured by german guarantees.
so if Greece would fail (what they not do because they was forced to change their fucking corruption there) Germany would be the biggest looser.

out of that - and that again tells me that you do not have the smallest clue of economy - the greece problem was one of the main reason that interests went down.

means: EVERY COUNTRY with depth had the chance to pay back without paying interest anymore. greece gave europe MUCH more as it ever got from euope.


Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.

Quote:

It is great when you live in Thailand, where you pay no income tax, and maybe 5% - 12,5% company tax in an EU country. I would do that also, but that is how Thommy thinks, Thommy Uber Alles.
i can live wherever i want that will not move my companies anywhere.
I have more companies as you have fingers but sure i use the legal options to savae tax wherever I can. Why I should do something else?
I pay anyway every year much more tax than 100 losers like you pay in their complete life.

Quote:

Even Stefan left Germany cause the tax system is crazy there. And than we must be happy Merkwl is ruling Germany? Don't think so. And that is why a lot of people don't care if the nazi's are growing in Germany. That is the only way to beat the system. There are no alternatives to vote for, just like in Holland. When the system is broken, people will vote for other parties i hope. The fastest growing party in Holland is against the Euro.
you should really not open your fake news mouth talking about things you can not even estimate.
you do not know a fuck about stefan or me and you spread here fake news stories - that explains already all about what you are and who you are and how important the truth is for you.

brainwashed - under educated, jealous and mad that you did never made it to any valuable human level.

thommy 09-22-2017 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22010247)
so he moved for the cheap whores. Noble

are the brazils not cheaper ????

Paul Markham 09-22-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22010509)
what EXTRA taxes?
do you know that Germany have since years a budgetary surplus ???

19 billion and 20 billion just in the past 2 years.

how can that be with all this fucking costs they have?

You don't live in Germany. So that's a bullshit answer. Germany's debt is 68.3% of GDP (2016). It will rise when the UK leave the EU and the costs of mass migration land on the desks of Germany. Spain's is 99.4% of GDP (2016). So as I said you should be paying more in taxes to clear the debt and fund your liberal policies. It's good to see you not supporting the idea of a Euro Alliance with all the debt rolled into one.

Quote:

why ? because they got the power but not the education.
it is ALL a question of education - but unfortunately we can not educate them in their own countries because of fuckers like mugabe.
So youi agree their biggest problem is their own leaders. And you think we can sort it out. :1orglaugh

Quote:

and as soon the western world starts to intervene and kills the "bad boys" like saddam or gaddhafi it becomes worse.
because what is changed there than is that a big corruption is changing into a giant corruption.
And Mugabe. Make up your mind we either leave them to kill each other or we intervene and try to teach them to be Western.

Quote:

you try to explain here you want to do something for the poors abut you do the opposite. you are a tool in the hands of all those corrupt politicians you hate so much. and you do not even realize that.
Why am I responsible for Mugabe, Idi Amin, Saddam, Ghadafi, etc.

Quote:

and when it comes to the point where some politician is doing something what at least make sense you complain again.
that shows me that you do not have the smallest clue of what you are talking abot. because IF you would HAVE arguments you would be able to show us WHERE ON THIS FUCKING PLANET your ideas are working.
True. I believe the bset action isd to do nothing and let the less modern Nations sort their own problems. You want us to do nothing, then complain we do more. Make up your mind. That is if you have one.

Quote:

you know when you want to change things you have to have not only a better idea or bigger vision than others - you need a PROVE and you have non and you will NEVER have one because you are living in wonderland - far far away from reality
I don't want to change things outside the West, except less imports from countries who undercut our own workers. Third World countries should be allowed to look after their own problems. If that means they keep killing each other, then let it be.

If you think all it will take is for the West to open schools in the Third World to solve their problems. You're insane with no grasp of the true facts. Plus who will pay the costs?

Paul Markham 09-22-2017 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22010535)
this countries you are talking about would be bankrupt already if Germany would not help.

next bullshit. you do not even seem to know that the most of the greece depth to the european union is secured by german guarantees.
so if Greece would fail (what they not do because they was forced to change their fucking corruption there) Germany would be the biggest looser.

out of that - and that again tells me that you do not have the smallest clue of economy - the greece problem was one of the main reason that interests went down.

means: EVERY COUNTRY with depth had the chance to pay back without paying interest anymore. greece gave europe MUCH more as it ever got from euope.

Here you clearly show your ignorance. The reason for the debt of the Euro states is because the EU created the Euro, gave it to countries without the ability to manage the currency and allowed them to borrow way beyond their means to repay. Greece was at 100% 1995 to 2007, then skyrocketed to 179.0% of GDP (2016). Greece adopted the Euro in January 2002. See the picture? It's having to endure massive cuts to keep it at 179%. The only option has is to leave the Euro and go back to the Drachma and default. But that would start a collapse of the Euro.


Quote:

Merkel inviting everybody and realizing that most had to enter another EU country first, so they won't have the problems. They created a paper wall for immigration. And forcing every EU country to take people in, but most don't want that. Cause Germany has the biggest influence in the EU, and only germans can vote in Germany, it is like it has Always been; Deutschland Uber Alles.

I wanted to vote for Farrage, wasn't even possible in my country. That way we will Always circle around the same parties that are leading the eu. Cause if i have to choose an anti EU party in Holland there are only very few options.. Like Wilders or the socialist communist.

The UK understood that and choose the Brexit. making Germany and France more powerfull. Many times Holland supported the English vision and laws they wanted. Now that friend will be gone.
Now you're talking sense. Merkel invited the migrants without any consultation with Germans. Germany and France will be more powerful in a weaker EU afteer the UK leave. So not very good for the other EU countries.



Quote:

i can live wherever i want that will not move my companies anywhere.
I have more companies as you have fingers but sure i use the legal options to savae tax wherever I can. Why I should do something else?
I pay anyway every year much more tax than 100 losers like you pay in their complete life.
Soyou say. What country do you pay taxes in, is it a country you live in?

thommy 09-22-2017 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22010571)
Here you clearly show your ignorance. The reason for the debt of the Euro states is because the EU created the Euro, gave it to countries without the ability to manage the currency and allowed them to borrow way beyond their means to repay. Greece was at 100% 1995 to 2007, then skyrocketed to 179.0% of GDP (2016). Greece adopted the Euro in January 2002. See the picture? It's having to endure massive cuts to keep it at 179%. The only option has is to leave the Euro and go back to the Drachma and default. But that would start a collapse of the Euro.


Now you're talking sense. Merkel invited the migrants without any consultation with Germans. Germany and France will be more powerful in a weaker EU afteer the UK leave. So not very good for the other EU countries.



Soyou say. What country do you pay taxes in, is it a country you live in?

paul i know that you are older and that it is not easy for you to understand things what you have never learned. so I tried to find an easy written article what explains you when dept to gdp is good and when it it bad.

i think this explanation is so easy written that even you should be able to understand it.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...-ratio-1978993

so if you did understand it after reading you should rethink your thought before you tell the world what is good and what is bad.

and i don´t complain you for not knowing it - i only complain you that you try to make the readers here THINK you would have skills in that.
but you should accept that you are only a ex middle class porn producer and not the economy minister of tabaluga land.

thommy 09-22-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22010551)
It will rise when the UK leave the EU and the costs of mass migration land on the desks of Germany.

that was a good one again.

seems your fake news channels did not really update you about the brexit.

may don´t want a fast brexit anymore -indeed she seems not even to know IF she wants a brexit.

today she asked for 2 years more - maybe because someone explained her the content of the forecasts what will happen with britain in the next decades.

so possibly you are speculating on the space of the syrian refugees in Germany for the brexit refugees.

i really wished they would exit faster to show the rest of the world what happens when populism rules a country.

Scott McD 09-22-2017 04:43 PM

Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...

MaDalton 09-22-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22010235)
By my understanding you also left due to all the paperwork in germany and it was much easier to start and run a company in Czech.

And by my understanding you travel to 3rd world countries cause you like cheap hookers. But sorry, your assumption is wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22010241)
rather Czech girls were much cheaper to shoot content with......

Wrong, even more expensive. But also more pretty and not ruined with silicone and tattoos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22010247)
so he moved for the cheap whores. Noble

Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.

thommy 09-22-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22010755)
Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...

what would be with the first one who is "over the limit" would you take them or shall we throw them back into the sea ?

remember: these are people who are fleeing from a war...in wich inhuman school did you get your education ? in the roman arena ?

and what means "spread over europe" ????

they CAME to europe but only 2 or 3 countries have the responsibility to stand for what they signed in the geneve refugee convention.

YOUR country signed it too so first of all you are word breakers and want to blame the ones what are standing for it.

PUSSIES !!!!

thommy 09-22-2017 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22010761)
And by my understanding you travel to 3rd world countries cause you like cheap hookers. But sorry, your assumption is wrong.



Wrong, even more expensive. But also more pretty and not ruined with silicone and tattoos.



Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.

i think there is no hope with this guy. he is so fucking brainwashed that he would be already a victim of scientology if he would have sufficient money for that.

people like him live like the goldfish in the glass and think that everything outside is just pure illusion - he is a great example what you can make out of weak humans if you just push on the right button and use their weakness for whatever you want.

slave pussies and trolls ! the right people to build the future !

Tasty1 09-22-2017 08:58 PM

Well it is simple what my source is, i spoke with Stefan myself during a few shows.
But i must conclude that my braincells at least survived the shows :)
Looks like he wasn't a fan of Germany either.

Thommy, you are just plain wrong on so many things that i think you have a meltdown again.
Nice for you that you are so rich and pay so much tax. At leastm, when we must believe you. But I am happy i am not you. And i am happy there are not many more of you.
What a fucked up world would it be with all this gods walking around on earth.
You realy miss every sense and Thommy Uber Alles. The more i read your post, the stronger my believes are that we must stop the Euro.

Brazilian Hookers? i didn't know you had to pay there.

Damn, did i again react on a meltdown post from Thommy and lowering me a little bit to his level.
I wast just trying to ignore all the political post.

again, not a Trump or Wilders supporter. Never voted for one of them.

nico-t 09-23-2017 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22010761)
Nice to see your attitude towards the girls that make all of us money. Funny thing though: only people that never intend to show up at any business events post shit like you do. Cause basement Nazis like you are usually coward bitches and you don't even have half a testicle to say the same shit to anybody's face in real life.

You really need to get a sense of humor :1orglaugh

oppoten 09-23-2017 05:01 AM

They're defensive because they're on the wrong side of where it's going.

Leave them to it.

Paul Markham 09-23-2017 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22010607)
paul i know that you are older and that it is not easy for you to understand things what you have never learned. so I tried to find an easy written article what explains you when dept to gdp is good and when it it bad.

i think this explanation is so easy written that even you should be able to understand it.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...-ratio-1978993

so if you did understand it after reading you should rethink your thought before you tell the world what is good and what is bad.

and i don´t complain you for not knowing it - i only complain you that you try to make the readers here THINK you would have skills in that.
but you should accept that you are only a ex middle class porn producer and not the economy minister of tabaluga land.

Tell that to the Greeks, Spanish, Irish, Italiens, etc.

Paul Markham 09-23-2017 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22010621)
that was a good one again.

seems your fake news channels did not really update you about the brexit.

may don´t want a fast brexit anymore -indeed she seems not even to know IF she wants a brexit.

today she asked for 2 years more - maybe because someone explained her the content of the forecasts what will happen with britain in the next decades.

so possibly you are speculating on the space of the syrian refugees in Germany for the brexit refugees.

i really wished they would exit faster to show the rest of the world what happens when populism rules a country.

When Britain leaves the balance of votes in the EU moves firmly towards the States taking out more than they put in. Which means those putting in will have to

Are you anti-democracy as well.

Germany will need those two years to replace the loss of the UK as a market. Trade is two ways.

Paul Markham 09-23-2017 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 22010755)
Let's go back to the start. Merkel did say there would be "no limits" to the people she would allow into Germany. You can argue about how many would stay there, breed there, work there, leave after a while, commit crime, rape, be forced to leave, whatever. She seemed to think she could dictate which other countries in Europe she would spread the sheer volume of numbers arriving to Germany. Didn't take her long to realise the numbers were much more than she figured plus most weren't actually refugee's at all and quickly claimed the border CLOSED.

Fact is she made the most riduculous statement and call in recent times. And yet she still holds power and is about to do so further.

Who knows what next ridiculous shit she will come away with next.

Yet people talk about Donald Trump tweets ? Sheeesh...

Did she ask the German people what they wanted?

Has she asked the people of Europe what they want?

Thommy will love this, living outside the EU, not paying the taxes and favouring non-popularism policies.

Paul Markham 09-23-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22010845)
what would be with the first one who is "over the limit" would you take them or shall we throw them back into the sea ?

remember: these are people who are fleeing from a war...in wich inhuman school did you get your education ? in the roman arena ?

and what means "spread over europe" ????

they CAME to europe but only 2 or 3 countries have the responsibility to stand for what they signed in the geneve refugee convention.

YOUR country signed it too so first of all you are word breakers and want to blame the ones what are standing for it.

PUSSIES !!!!

They are coming because they know they willget welfare. If they went intocamps with no work they wouldn't be getting onto boats.

No, they are not all fleeing wars. The few that are are fleeing wars where their own countrymen want to slaughter them. Do you support the US and Russian intervention in those conflicts?

They won't spread over Europe. They will go to the countries with the best welfare systems. Those fleeing wars would be stopping in the first safe country. The ones from Africa enter a war zone to get onto boats. Turkey isn't at war, the ones from Asia have no intention of staying in Turkey and Turkey can't get rid of them fast enough.

Do you read the news or just think it's fake?

Paul Markham 09-23-2017 08:50 AM

Thommy you failed to answer my post about the taxes you pay. Where is your company registered, where do you pay your personal taxes and how much time do you spend in Thailand as a tax exile?

Tasty1 09-23-2017 09:00 PM

finally a critical article about Merkel and the brainwashed German, lead by the public paid media. But is in Dutch.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/opinie/de-...ntes~a4517430/

This woman is in a german TV program, worked her whole live and will end up with a pension of 645 euro. She will not vote Merkel, she is smarter.



Heard that woman in the former East Germany are better of. Cause in west Germany not all woman worked, they won't get extra pension. While in East Germany, there was no unemployemnt so they get some extra pension....

My Father has a German girlfriend. If i hear her talk, she will never vote for Merkel either.

Whole Germany is brainwashed by the public media stations. Everybody with a little sense could see the refugee problem coming. But cause the people saw all the bad pictures of refugees Merkel wanted to be popular and welcome them. 3 months later there was a higher % that rather wanted them out. Just like in Holland. People are welcome, till people realize that it would cost too much. And than we will have the people getting their families also go to the EU the coming years.

I realy hope we will get a complete change, but i think Merkel will be there for some more years.

pimpmaster9000 09-24-2017 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22011415)
Thommy you failed to answer my post about the taxes you pay. Where is your company registered, where do you pay your personal taxes and how much time do you spend in Thailand as a tax exile?

yes paul you are the right person to ask this question :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 09-24-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22011415)
Thommy you failed to answer my post about the taxes you pay. Where is your company registered, where do you pay your personal taxes and how much time do you spend in Thailand as a tax exile?

since when do i have to open my books for you old fart?

you will NEVER understand economy and IF you think i have only rights to talk about the country wher I AM BORN when i pay taxes there (what i actually do in some of my companies) then you should shut the fuck up because you NEVER paid a penny in germany but you want to rule it.

you are a dement old loser - keep it for you because this is the result of your life.

you brainless idiots will NEVER understand why a leader of a country have to be the leader FOR ALL.
and if that is the case you will NEVER have a perfect situation because it would be perfect only for a part of the citizens.
this is NOT democrathy !!!

björn also does copy and paste nonsense without knowledge about the german pension system.

1. every women what was married and the husband died get additionally to her own pension 60% of what he husband got.
2. there is a minimum existance in germany. if someone did NOT pay sufficient into the pension system and does not receive that ammount they get something on top.
this "something" depends also on your life circumstances (i.e if you live in an expensive city or a cheap one).
3. this women IS NOT in pension yet and she is talking abot the money she gets from the
public pension but she forgot that she have much more rights to get money on top of that if her income is lower than the minimum.

the next joke is that he calls all public media fake and posts a video from german ZDF - where you can SEE that nothing is been hidden or faked.
Germany KNOWS about the futire problems and was ALWAYS able to resolve them.
and they did that without your wiseness.

Tasty1 09-24-2017 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22012321)
since when do i have to open my books for you old fart?

you will NEVER understand economy and IF you think i have only rights to talk about the country wher I AM BORN when i pay taxes there (what i actually do in some of my companies) then you should shut the fuck up because you NEVER paid a penny in germany but you want to rule it.

you are a dement old loser - keep it for you because this is the result of your life.

you brainless idiots will NEVER understand why a leader of a country have to be the leader FOR ALL.
and if that is the case you will NEVER have a perfect situation because it would be perfect only for a part of the citizens.
this is NOT democrathy !!!

björn also does copy and paste nonsense without knowledge about the german pension system.

1. every women what was married and the husband died get additionally to her own pension 60% of what he husband got.
2. there is a minimum existance in germany. if someone did NOT pay sufficient into the pension system and does not receive that ammount they get something on top.
this "something" depends also on your life circumstances (i.e if you live in an expensive city or a cheap one).
3. this women IS NOT in pension yet and she is talking abot the money she gets from the
public pension but she forgot that she have much more rights to get money on top of that if her income is lower than the minimum.

the next joke is that he calls all public media fake and posts a video from german ZDF - where you can SEE that nothing is been hidden or faked.
Germany KNOWS about the futire problems and was ALWAYS able to resolve them.
and they did that without your wiseness.

I mostly quoted the professor who works at the Rotterdam University in that Dutch article....
So you can call him and say he is a loser who don't understand anything.
He says the gap between rich and poor is putting Germany under pressure.

And some info what i hear from a pensioned German woman who lives in Germany and sees how it goes with her friends.
And that video i mentioned, i am Dutch, i know the German stations and understand German.
The professor called this a "Melker Moment". Melkert was a Dutch politician who looked like he would be minister.
Till he reacted so stupid on TV that he lost all his credits. The professor points to this moment where Merkel does the same.
You can also compare it with the "deplorables speech" from Hillary. Merkel reacted like, "that are the rules, shut up".

And the article writes how people in Germany are brainwashed by the media and the politicians reacting on that to be popular.
And he mention that german workers want more spare time, not more money.
I know that the people working for German factories must be very very happy with 12 days holiday per year.
So maybe transfer more production there...

I hope the Euro will fall, so there won't be an United States of Europe.

Tasty1 09-24-2017 09:21 AM

I see some exoit polls, 13,5% of the people voted for the eurosceptic party AFD, Alternative für Deutschland.
Last elections they didn't even get a seat in parliament.

DraX 09-24-2017 09:26 AM

As you can see Paul all you get back from Thommy is a lot of nothing. Props for being patient :)

DraX 09-24-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22012417)
I see some exoit polls, 13,5% of the people voted for the eurosceptic party AFD, Alternative für Deutschland.
Last elections they didn't even get a seat in parliament.

Still hoping for +15%, then the fight continues. Merkel will come out as winner but she won't fix the important issues discussed here. Also sad to see elders with minimum pension, Germany unload tax money on refugees instead, disgusting.

With seats in the parliament, they can put new pressure on the establishment.

Anyone know if parties get extra money from state based on % or seats in parliament?

wehateporn 09-24-2017 09:50 AM


thommy 09-24-2017 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 22012417)
I see some exoit polls, 13,5% of the people voted for the eurosceptic party AFD, Alternative für Deutschland.
Last elections they didn't even get a seat in parliament.

i love the result of this election.
this is the very best what could happen to Germany and the prove the the majority of Germans (88%) are NOT right wingers.

the big coalition what will be formed there now is not only one of the biggest changes for Germany - the AfD will rot in the opposition because the other 2 parties in the opposition will have 3/4 of there and they are hard left wing parties.

so what you see today is not the beginning of Germany goes to right - what you see here is that ALL right wing parties found together in one and they will go under together. there where always tons of right wing parties in Germany what did not make it into the bundestag because not one did ever reach the 5%.

each of 3 parties what will have to build the government coalition now have a very strong core competence - if they can agree that each one can use their competence it will be the best and most competent government what Germany have ever seen.

i personally was hoping for such a result even when i would wish that a few % of CDU/CSU would still be gone to FDP and the green party. but they will receive that in 4 years when AfD is history (same as the republicans went to be history in Germany)

Tasty1 09-24-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22012463)
i love the result of this election.
this is the very best what could happen to Germany and the prove the the majority of Germans (88%) are NOT right wingers.

the big coalition what will be formed there now is not only one of the biggest changes for Germany - the AfD will rot in the opposition because the other 2 parties in the opposition will have 3/4 of there and they are hard left wing parties.

so what you see today is not the beginning of Germany goes to right - what you see here is that ALL right wing parties found together in one and they will go under together. there where always tons of right wing parties in Germany what did not make it into the bundestag because not one did ever reach the 5%.

each of 3 parties what will have to build the government coalition now have a very strong core competence - if they can agree that each one can use their competence it will be the best and most competent government what Germany have ever seen.

i personally was hoping for such a result even when i would wish that a few % of CDU/CSU would still be gone to FDP and the green party. but they will receive that in 4 years when AfD is history (same as the republicans went to be history in Germany)

I like it when other parties must take a new course. You see that in Holland, the VVD also a lot to the 'right' cause of Geert Wilders and FvD. You can see that in the new immigration laws. But the VVD (biggest in Holland) Always say they want less Europe, but in the end Always agree with Europe. There will be a new party next election that will be a better alternative, they will not only say less Europe, but will also do what they say.

I am not in favour of extremist parties, but when they win, the other parties will act trying not to loose seats (again) in next elections. That is good. There must be more eurosceptic parties with a program of solutions/alternatives, not like Geert Wilders that can't get anything done only being loud.

Some see AFDas nazi party i saw. In that case, Merkel is the reason why the nazi's are back.

I only happy about 1 thing, Merkel doesn't want Turkey in the EU. While some parties want to keep the negotiations open.

nico-t 09-24-2017 01:32 PM

look, you EU 4th Reich apologists can write all the walls of texts you want, it only proves the only answer possible for the question at hand:

"Have the Germans lost their fucking minds ??"

Ja.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:38 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123