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crockett 11-06-2017 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22064340)
Incorrect, there are already laws in place to where he couldn't legally buy a gun. He had to obtained it illegally. I'm sure he wasn't running around telling everyone he was dishonorably discharged and did a year in military prison for beating up his wife and kid.

He walked into a store and bought it.. Its 100% proof that the laws in place to not work to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't own them..

But hey lets talk about Mexicans voting or Hillary's emails..

crockett 11-06-2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22063742)
over 60% of gun related deaths are suicides, I have no remorse for quiters

I took that Oath to protect the constitution and all I ever hear from liberals is their hate for it, how they want to change it. How they want to erase the mention of it by taking down historical statues when most of those statues are of Democrats that are just ashamed of their history. They even want to take down the statue of President Lincoln, he freed the slaves, but they contend that he didn't convict those that fought against the union during the civil war and want his statue taken down.

They want to have control over the American people at any cost and seen with the recent revelations of selling 20% of our weapons grade uranium to Russia without going to congress, which is treason in my book. Inventing bullshit with Fusion GPS and all the other slights that have been committed by the left. And they have the balls to say guns are a problem?, fuck them!

I feel for the people that voted for Bernie Sanders that found out that the DNC threw there vote under the bus!

Funny your oath didnt stop you from trying to swindle money out of old ladies savings accounts by claiming you were working to help get Hillary elected..

Amazing how it works how you are only ok with some freedoms but not the most imporant, which is a free from fraud election process.

Only a scumbag would attempt to fuck up our election process fr personal gain and then try to hold up his military service as proof he is better than thou..

PR_Glen 11-06-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22063684)
ANY American who has served in the military and thinks ANY gun ban of ANY kind is OK hasn't taken their oath seriously. ANY American who wants to take guns away from other Americans is a traitor. PERIOD.

So yeah, some Americans, like Rochard for instance, are retarded. Why in the hell would you take an oath to serve your country then turn around and piss on the very Constitution you swore to protect?

Hang the traitors.

settle down... it's an amendment. It is by definition a change to the original due to circumstances rethought after. The discussion can be had about further change without yelling: traitor! In fact, any attempts at denial of such a discussion would in itself be unconstitutional.

I don't have a solution myself, and wouldn't pretend to being an outsider. But the discussion should always be there.

Vendzilla 11-06-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 22064322)
In other words, because you and many others that have served have taken the oath, the constitution can never ever be updated, changed or optimized? Regardless of time, advances in civilization, society, etc.? Honest question and genuinely curious.

That's not what we are saying, we are saying that the constitution is there for a reason and our country has risen to be the defender of the free world and has influenced other countries to make the world a better place.

The people that wrote the constitution saw what was going on in the rest of the world and wanted something different. The people that are attacking the constitution are doing so for political gain. If stricter gun laws worked, we would get more, but they don't. That's been proven over and over with cities like Chicago. The left will say that gun deaths have gone down because of their gun laws, when the truth is that the medical profession has got better at treating gun shot wounds.

Then there is the left attacking the 1st amendment by not allowing the right to speak, I would be the first to punch the antifa bag of dicks that protests with a base ball bat and yells at the top of their lungs to keep others from their protected free speech.



In truth, America?s Constitution has given more freedom to more people than any other government charter in history. It was the system this document built that brought so many immigrants to America?s shores and inspired so many to attain great accomplishments?accomplishments that any other system anywhere else in the world would have denied them. So, my question is why would anyone attack it? What do they have against freedom?

Vendzilla 11-06-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22064342)
I support the 2nd amendment :thumbsup

Every adult American should be able to purchase a front loading musket and a sword, just like the founding fathers intended !

I own 2 69 cal flint lock horse pistols, trust me, they are the last thing you would want to be shot with! Also you may want to read it again, nothing was said about swords, here in LA you can't even carry a folding knife....Fucking liberals at work

bronco67 11-06-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22063684)
ANY American who has served in the military and thinks ANY gun ban of ANY kind is OK hasn't taken their oath seriously. ANY American who wants to take guns away from other Americans is a traitor. PERIOD.

So yeah, some Americans, like Rochard for instance, are retarded. Why in the hell would you take an oath to serve your country then turn around and piss on the very Constitution you swore to protect?

Hang the traitors.

Did you serve? I did.

And I've also forgotten more about firing all types of guns than most so-called conservatives will ever know. I even reloaded my own shotgun shells, 223 and 9mm...thousands of rounds.

I'm for common sense.

pimpmaster9000 11-06-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22064420)
our country has risen to be the defender of the free world and has influenced other countries to make the world a better place.



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Vendzilla 11-06-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22064508)
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I'm for common sense.

According to who?

Vendzilla 11-06-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22064520)
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Is that the extent of your argument?

astronaut x 11-06-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22063684)
ANY American who has served in the military and thinks ANY gun ban of ANY kind is OK hasn't taken their oath seriously. ANY American who wants to take guns away from other Americans is a traitor. PERIOD.

So yeah, some Americans, like Rochard for instance, are retarded. Why in the hell would you take an oath to serve your country then turn around and piss on the very Constitution you swore to protect?

Hang the traitors.

Let me ask you a question. Did you serve in the military?

Rochard is one of the very few people left on this board that I actually respect. Rochard actually responds with intelligence, while most others revert to name-calling and just plain acting like cry babies. Even when the guy disagrees with you, he is still showing some level of respect by not just throwing his hands up in the air and simply saying you are just a dumb idiot.

I just don't remember him acting like that on this board ever. The fact that you would come on this board and say a military veteran is "retarded" just shows you have no respect for military veterans period. Just like Trump. You may think you do, but only in your fucked up little bubble world.

The only respect you have for is the "right" for crazy gun nuts to shoot up innocent people. Because, lets face it.... the anwser to all your problems doesn't come from the end of a gun (a belief you share with every mass murderer.)

Guns will not protect you from the government if they decide to come after you bro. If you honestly believe that, then you sir are fucking "retarded" :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 11-06-2017 01:38 PM


pimpmaster9000 11-06-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22064662)
Is that the extent of your argument?

Pity I can fit only 21 Smiley's LOL

Barry-xlovecam 11-06-2017 01:51 PM

What? Light arms are not effective in asymmetric warfare?

Maybe you cannot shoot a tank but you sure as hell can can hide waiting to ambush and shoot dead a soldier that leaves his tank to take a piss. Do revolutionaries and terrorists line up to fight an armored division? Of course not.

This is why the USA has lost every insurgent-type war since Korea.

pimpmaster9000 11-06-2017 02:05 PM

The us gov will have Autonomous fighting vehicles in 10 years in bulk ...a light weapon is no use against a terminator....

AaronM 11-06-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 22064322)
In other words, because you and many others that have served have taken the oath, the constitution can never ever be updated, changed or optimized? Regardless of time, advances in civilization, society, etc.? Honest question and genuinely curious.


Of course it can. That's why there are multiple amendments to it. The problem is the politicians ignore it and write laws that defy it. If you want to amend it, then amend it and quit fucking around.

That said, amending the constitution will not stop what's happening. The Constitution is the law and as we've seen once or twice, CRIMINALS DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE LAW.

Focus on the real problem which is mental health.

AaronM 11-06-2017 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22064368)
settle down... it's an amendment. It is by definition a change to the original due to circumstances rethought after. The discussion can be had about further change without yelling: traitor! In fact, any attempts at denial of such a discussion would in itself be unconstitutional.

I don't have a solution myself, and wouldn't pretend to being an outsider. But the discussion should always be there.


Show me where there has been any such discussion in Congress. Nobody there is seriously discussing amending the Constitution, they ignore and write illegal "laws" against it and THAT IS treason.

AaronM 11-06-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 22064508)
Did you serve? I did.

And I've also forgotten more about firing all types of guns than most so-called conservatives will ever know. I even reloaded my own shotgun shells, 223 and 9mm...thousands of rounds.

I'm for common sense.


No, I didn't serve. Yet I take the Constitution seriously. Apparently you don't because "common sense" would tell anybody with a shred of "common sense" that gun laws do not prevent crime in the United States.

AaronM 11-06-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 22064676)
Let me ask you a question. Did you serve in the military?

Rochard is one of the very few people left on this board that I actually respect. Rochard actually responds with intelligence, while most others revert to name-calling and just plain acting like cry babies. Even when the guy disagrees with you, he is still showing some level of respect by not just throwing his hands up in the air and simply saying you are just a dumb idiot.

I just don't remember him acting like that on this board ever. The fact that you would come on this board and say a military veteran is "retarded" just shows you have no respect for military veterans period. Just like Trump. You may think you do, but only in your fucked up little bubble world.

The only respect you have for is the "right" for crazy gun nuts to shoot up innocent people. Because, lets face it.... the anwser to all your problems doesn't come from the end of a gun (a belief you share with every mass murderer.)

Guns will not protect you from the government if they decide to come after you bro. If you honestly believe that, then you sir are fucking "retarded" :2 cents:


I believe in the Constitution. PERIOD. This isn't a "gun issue"to me, it's a Constitutional one.

I respect Veterans who respect the oath they took. If they don't respect that oath, fuck no I don't respect them.

AaronM 11-06-2017 03:06 PM

OK, looks like I've responded to everybody I intend to respond to. You kids have fun with your thread. I have multiple gun businesses to run. :)

Got a new dueling tree yesterday. Maybe I'll spend some time playing with that too. :BangBang::ak47:

Barry-xlovecam 11-06-2017 03:20 PM

And trucks can be used as weapons of mass murder terrorism too. So what is the point?

Be on the ready, be aware and hope you can react to any situation that develops.

Terminators LOL; they can caught in a trench and topple ...

Nick_awt 11-06-2017 03:53 PM

Having read the posts. I think they answer the OP's question. No poll needed.

CaptainHowdy 11-06-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick_awt (Post 22064824)
Having read the posts. I think they answer the OP's question. No poll needed.

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flashfire 11-06-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22063792)
The United States doesn't have a gun problem. We have a mental health problem and until we figure out a good way to deal with it the gun violence/mass shootings will not stop.

everywhere in the world has a mental health problem

99.9% of these shootings happen in the US

kane 11-06-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 22065214)
everywhere in the world has a mental health problem

99.9% of these shootings happen in the US

Maybe the better way to say it is that the US has a dealing with mental health issues problem.

We need to come up with better ways to identify those who need help, get them help, and keep them away from guns.

BaldBastard 11-06-2017 11:10 PM

Mass Shootings.. Just The Unfortunate Price of Protecting People's Freedom To Commit Mass Shootings..

Only in the USA.

Whats painfully obvious in this and the Las Vegas shootings is all the warning signs were they before the event yet no one blinked an eye because the USA is so complacent with guns.

The Porn Nerd 11-06-2017 11:34 PM

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Paul Markham 11-07-2017 11:16 AM

I would very think that if it went to a National Referendum, most Americans would limit the amount, power, magazines sizes of weapons a private individual can own.

So best the NRA and the politicians get to make the rules.

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The Porn Nerd 11-07-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dillonaire (Post 22065836)
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RandyRandy 11-07-2017 03:28 PM

No, Americans aren't all retarded. Just 98-99% are. Including me.

klinton 11-07-2017 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dillonaire (Post 22065836)
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astronaut x 11-07-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22064786)
I believe in the Constitution. PERIOD. This isn't a "gun issue"to me, it's a Constitutional one.

I respect Veterans who respect the oath they took. If they don't respect that oath, fuck no I don't respect them.


The constitution has a "gun issue."

The bill of rights are amendments to the constitution by the way. From there, laws have been created to protect those values for everyone.

Men like Rochard have served to protect those values for "EVERYONE". Its the governments job to see that everyone gets a chance to live a life of liberty, and to pursue happiness. That includes peaceful protest.

If you want to keep your fucking muskets and hunting rifles, fine. Nobody is coming after those. EVER.

But you don't get fucking assault weapons, uzis, rocket launchers, grenades, tanks, fighter jets, bombs, etc. Who the fuck do you think you are interpreting the constitution the way you see fit? That's the job for the courts.

Again sir, you didn't answer me. Have you served?

astronaut x 11-07-2017 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22064790)
I have multiple gun businesses to run. :)

This says it all.

lock 11-07-2017 11:47 PM

The second amendment could be eroded away by another bill of rights and like president college you won't have a choice or know the actual agenda till it happens. If it never happens it is because even members of government feel civil war will break out the moment it is discussed. The theory behind the second amendment has been outdated by chemical, nuclear and mentioned autonomous modern warfare having armed civilians to protect a coastline is ineffective. The economy is based on war so there will be no peace soon which probably only enforces the feeling to own a weapon. Damned of they do and damned if they don't.

NewNick 11-08-2017 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22063684)
ANY American who has served in the military and thinks ANY gun ban of ANY kind is OK hasn't taken their oath seriously. ANY American who wants to take guns away from other Americans is a traitor. PERIOD.

So yeah, some Americans, like Rochard for instance, are retarded. Why in the hell would you take an oath to serve your country then turn around and piss on the very Constitution you swore to protect?

Hang the traitors.

You want to hang people who think that allowing the insane to buy assault rifles should is a bad thing ?

Really ?

So the Vegas guy and another crazy shooting up a church full of people, that is not something you think that just maybe law makers should perhaps take a look at ?

You really want to hang people who say "perhaps we ought to look at this" ?

Does the constitution not allow people to go about their business without getting shot at ?

Retard.

AnyssaBayron 11-08-2017 07:24 AM

Some of them, yeah.

astronaut x 11-08-2017 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lock (Post 22066292)
The second amendment could be eroded away by another bill of rights and like president college you won't have a choice or know the actual agenda till it happens. If it never happens it is because even members of government feel civil war will break out the moment it is discussed. The theory behind the second amendment has been outdated by chemical, nuclear and mentioned autonomous modern warfare having armed civilians to protect a coastline is ineffective. The economy is based on war so there will be no peace soon which probably only enforces the feeling to own a weapon. Damned of they do and damned if they don't.

There you have it. The sobering reality.

astronaut x 11-08-2017 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22064786)
I believe in the Constitution. PERIOD. This isn't a "gun issue"to me, it's a Constitutional one.

I respect Veterans who respect the oath they took. If they don't respect that oath, fuck no I don't respect them.

I think it could be easily argued, that by you owning several gun businesses, you are selling out America. That you are actually part of the problem. You are contributing to the deaths of fellow Americans through your selfish pursuit of cash. I think many people see you as a traitor. I have a strong feeling you don't give a fuck. So, why should anyone who disagrees with you give a fuck about you or the fact you call them a traitor?

You are sad example of someone, like Trump, who wouldn't hesitate to throw a veteran, dead or alive, under the bus for your own personal gain. You have already demonstrated that here.

Not to mention, your comments are probably also tied to some personal riff from several years ago I imagine.

Bryan G 11-08-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 22064774)
Of course it can. That's why there are multiple amendments to it. The problem is the politicians ignore it and write laws that defy it. If you want to amend it, then amend it and quit fucking around.

That said, amending the constitution will not stop what's happening. The Constitution is the law and as we've seen once or twice, CRIMINALS DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE LAW.

Focus on the real problem which is mental health.

If it?s a mental health issue then why does this simple not happen as much in other first world countries. All countries have people with mental issues. We just don?t allow them to buy fucking semi automatic weapons.

wehateporn 11-08-2017 12:07 PM

It's just the hidden hand at work as usual, here's the timeline:-


Given that the first one in recent years, Sandy Hook, turned out to have actors involved (see below), and the Las Vegas one had multiple shoots according to witnesses, it appears it's all part of a Globalist 'Ban Guns' Problem > Reaction > Solution process :2 cents:


Hunger Games illustrates the dream Globalist end scenario i.e. they have weapons, you don't, they treat you like dirt and there's nothing you can do to fight back :helpme



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