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Phoenix 02-25-2018 08:55 AM

The thing with all of this is that once it starts, you never know how it will go down.
1. IF a teacher/coach is armed, will they be holding their gun all day?
2. IF it is even a trained super soldier ex marine who is now the coach, what if he/she is taking a dump when they hear shots start going off? 2 minutes, or 3 to get to the lock box with their gun. Then what, another minute before they could get to a place to tackle the opposition.

Arming someone inside, unless they are walking around with a gun at all times, is useless. I mean if we really want people walking around with guns, then that is a solution.
Ideally they could control the entrance ways to school property.
Close it off, so that people can exit at multiple points, but to get into school they need to enter in one place. Everyone has to walk through a metal detector, and if need be, a closer inspection.

I live in Korea, and last year one fucknut walked into a school and got naked in the girls washroom. He got arrested.
Since, then try to walk onto a school property here.
They have old men at every entrance at every school. They had it before, but it was lax because nothing much goes on here. All schools are walled and the only entrance is a few gates.

NewNick 02-25-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22219129)
They carry modified Ar's and shot guns. Here in LA even the motorcycle cops carry AR's

The fucking left want us to rely on the protection of these buffoons and cowardly low life's that thought being a cop was a easy job just giving out tickets all day.

And for your information, in close quarters, I would prefer a good pistol over an AR-15. Most cops I've seen at the range can't shoot worth a shit.

So the cops, the ones with the training and experience cannot shoot, but if we arm the teachers it will all be good right ?

Bladewire 02-25-2018 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 22219729)
You're right. It's very easy to talk shit on a board.

I'm ex-military...combat-trained. I know what I'm capable of.


Robbie 02-25-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22219771)
So the cops, the ones with the training and experience cannot shoot, but if we arm the teachers it will all be good right ?

I think that says a lot...you can NOT count on the cops to protect you or your children.

Most cops WOULD have went in there and put that guy down. But why on Earth would you want to HOPE you get help and then maybe not?

I have a weapon in my home for protection. If anyone breaks in I will kill them. I definitely won't sit there and wait for the cops to arrive while some home invader kills me and my family.

As for "arm the teachers"...NOBODY is saying to "arm the teachers".

Trump's idea is to allow the teachers who are ALREADY licensed firearm owners to CONCEAL carry on campus.

Just like when you get on an airplane...there are Federal Marshalls onboard who have concealed weapons. Nobody knows who they are. It's a deterrent.

If you had the small percentage of teachers who are licensed to carry...and you had them take a couple of courses extra to lay down some ground rules...then nobody would even know which teacher or coach was or was not carrying.

That's the point.

Mass shootings ALWAYS take place in "gun free" zones. Harden the school up and let it be known publicly that schools now have certain people inside who are carrying a concealed weapon...and that will act as a deterrent.

It's better than doing NOTHING...which is what people have done ever since this insanity started getting bad a couple of decades back.

Rochard 02-25-2018 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219829)
Trump's idea is to allow the teachers who are ALREADY licensed firearm owners to CONCEAL carry on campus.

Not even. Trump's "idea" is to pass the bucks down to the states and telling them to have armed guards in the schools - and for the states to pay for it. You know, the same states that cannot afford to pay their teachers a decent wage. Come to think of it, the same states that don't pay their police officers and firemen enough.

It's pretty much the same as his infrastructure plan. It's not a plan, but an "idea" where the states fund infrastructure. If it was that easy, why hasn't the states been doing this for decades?

Zero leadership from the White House.

tony286 02-25-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22219829)
I think that says a lot...you can NOT count on the cops to protect you or your children.

Most cops WOULD have went in there and put that guy down. But why on Earth would you want to HOPE you get help and then maybe not?

I have a weapon in my home for protection. If anyone breaks in I will kill them. I definitely won't sit there and wait for the cops to arrive while some home invader kills me and my family.

As for "arm the teachers"...NOBODY is saying to "arm the teachers".

Trump's idea is to allow the teachers who are ALREADY licensed firearm owners to CONCEAL carry on campus.

Just like when you get on an airplane...there are Federal Marshalls onboard who have concealed weapons. Nobody knows who they are. It's a deterrent.

If you had the small percentage of teachers who are licensed to carry...and you had them take a couple of courses extra to lay down some ground rules...then nobody would even know which teacher or coach was or was not carrying.

That's the point.

Mass shootings ALWAYS take place in "gun free" zones. Harden the school up and let it be known publicly that schools now have certain people inside who are carrying a concealed weapon...and that will act as a deterrent.

It's better than doing NOTHING...which is what people have done ever since this insanity started getting bad a couple of decades back.

Fort hood and the Navy Yard are gun free zones?

Vendzilla 02-25-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22219613)
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/2...classroom.html

This says it all and one thing I forgot there have been attacks on places that were full of guns,fort Hood and the Navy Yard.Another thing I learned cops in a fire fight miss the target about 50 percent of the time.

Horseshit, forthood they werent allowed to wear weapons. Have you ever been on a military base? Not everone is wearing a weapon.

Vendzilla 02-25-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22219843)
Fort hood and the Navy Yard are gun free zones?

Yes they are, all guns are locked down except for base police and guards. Why would someone in a Naval yard wear a gun?

Robbie 02-25-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22219843)
Fort hood and the Navy Yard are gun free zones?

Tony...how ignorant can you be?

Fort Hood was a TERRORIST attack by a radicalized Muslim soldier. And yes, the SOLDIERS in the Fort are not armed. It's a "gun free zone" where only the military police are allowed to carry firearms.

What the fuck do you...with all your high and mighty left-wing pussy pie-in-the-sky bullshit...suggest be done?

Just wait around for Congress to repeal the 2nd amendment? Meanwhile MORE kids get killed????

What is YOUR solution? Or are you just another obstructionist Democrat who doesn't really want to SOLVE anything...but just keep things as they are for political fodder?

Kids are NOT fodder for your political party. Trump said he wants the age limit increased to 21 for long guns, wants bump stocks banned, and wants to harden the schools to STOP this kind of thing from happening.

Tell me ANY President who has actually said they want to do ANYTHING. Obama didn't. Bush didn't. Clinton didn't...NONE of them did.

Now you actually have a President in office who can get people from the NRA to bend to his will and make this happen.

And what are you doing? Arguing against any kind of solution. PURE POLITICS.

Let me ask you this Tony...that Coach who was unarmed and put himself in front of the students and took bullets and died...would you rather have had him armed and able to better defend those kids?

Would you? Or are you saying "NO"...just let him get shot and those kids get shot without even having a fighting chance?

Think about that. What you are saying is disgusting.

TheDynasty 02-25-2018 11:17 AM

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they should have these in all schools :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 02-25-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22219855)
Yes they are, all guns are locked down except for base police and guards. Why would someone in a Naval yard wear a gun?

Why would someone in a school wear a gun?
Why would someone in a church wear a gun?
Why would someone in a bar wear a gun?
Why would someone...oh you get the idea (actually probably not).

:disgust

Vendzilla 02-25-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22219887)
Why would someone in a school wear a gun?
Why would someone in a church wear a gun?
Why would someone in a bar wear a gun?
Why would someone...oh you get the idea (actually probably not).

:disgust

I think you are commenting on the wrong post. No one is attacking naval yards. Thats only in your empty head.

Robbie 02-25-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22219887)
Why would someone in a school wear a gun?
Why would someone in a church wear a gun?
Why would someone in a bar wear a gun?
Why would someone...oh you get the idea (actually probably not).

:disgust

Because it's your constitutional right to do so.

It's not up to you to tell people what they can and can't do when it's legal.

I think the point being made is...these shooters do not walk into places where people have weapons and start shooting.
They deliberately choose soft targets. And there is no softer target than a "gun free zone".

SilentKnight 02-25-2018 01:11 PM

While you were multitasking...somehow the gifs you were fappin' to got included in your reply.

Thanks for the insight to your proclivities.

Vendzilla 02-25-2018 03:11 PM

No one is saying arm all the teachers, just allowing those that feel comfortable wearing one to do so.
Police are suppose to protect our children, liberals biggest defense of taking away our guns has been that the police will protect us, this proves that to be a myth. For those idiots that say I wouldn't rush a AR15 with a pistol, the cop didn't know that if he never went inside the school and most cops have AR15's in there car, even the motorcycle cops have them.
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