Trump already sign the order for gun control in USA army, Russia will help execute this order. It all for your and world safety. Don't worry.

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The Constitution did not give us the right to have any guns on earth. We couldn't even buy assault rifles until the 80s.

Most so called "constitution defenders" are too fat to get into a fox hole or run 50 yards..

Wrong. You don't need the NRA for gun safety and the NRA touts gun safety when they really aren't anything more than gun makers trying to keep people buying their products in a passionate way.

supposed? how criminals obtained their guns? metholodgy?

so you say there is no statistical proof that 97% of all homicides happen with illegal guns?

you know, i'm giving you shit cause you are occasionally one of the "all press is fake news" posters - but then you pull a number like that out of the air without proof :winkwink:

Paul, this is another case where the system failed. The military knew that guy was mentally ill but didn't report it. He should've been ineligible to buy firearms. Let's fix the system & report these nutjobs before we punish law-abiding citizens. There was also another church right down the street, he could've killed way more if the NRA instructor hadn't been there with his ar-15.

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Seems like no one cars about Gen-X and Gen-Jones. Together, population wise, they are larger than Millennials and will be around beyond 20 years from now.

You obviously don't know much about guns asshole. I've owned rifle types like the top three in that pic and can honestly say there's a big difference between them. And if I was going to choose to shoot up a public place it sure as fuck wouldn't be the lever action or the bolt action. It would never enter my mind to use those two. Bitch, I've forgotten more about firing weaponry than you'll ever know and I'm the one with common sense on the issue. I served my country in the armed forces. Have you? You're fucking useless and should kill yourself.

Same here.
Watching the videos they release and the speeches they have given, shows they have turned into a gun lobbying organization

And you have less of a case, non-citizen.

I'd like the be in the middle of a sandwich between her and Tomi Lahren

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ive been watching from the sideline and i will say once and for all IM FUCKING SICK AND TIRED OF YOUR BULLSHIT HERE BLADE AND CROCK OF SHIT AND SO ON> I AM BACK IN ADULT AND WHEN I SEE YOU YOU"LL KNOW IT>> FUCK>> SHUT THE HELL UP FOR ONCE...
THIS ISNT A POLITICAL BOARD AND ALL YOUR BUNCH DOES IS WHINE, BITCH AND COMPLAIN LIKE THE LITTLE BITCHES YOU ARE
< TRUMP IS PRESIDENT AND I HOPE HE GOES FULL RIGHT WING DICTATOR YET~~~!!!!

JESUS H CHRIST JUST GIVE IT A GODDAM REST BEFORE YOUR FACE GETS RE ARRANGED

FUCK and I capped thsi , goddam I dont care. you left wing loonies are on notice. fuck you. GFY.

That was obviously directed towards straight males ..so relax.

STFU snowflake

He's not American. There are only 700,000 guns in Russia. His personal experience with guns is severely limited.

The only thing he's capable of knowing is his cut and paste Russian Troll Army gun advocacy content.

I've had that fake Nic blocked for months I had no idea that that message was stare. The faith Nick troll is clearly melting down today it must be the Stormy Daniels effect :1orglaugh

yeah i dont think so, all they are gonna do is get lots of people killed.

your're using them to further a agenda you are just as pathetic if not more you fucking idiot.

^^ Fake nic meltdown in multiple threads

your on notice too you unpatriotic loser. the left is using these kids. the left is demented and evil and we are the only ones that can save this country now. civil war is just over the next hill. prepare, we have been, for years... you will lose.

ha he can dish but not take it .. loser he is....

buddy im far far from a fake nick i was here BEFORE YOU. and we got shit done in the old days. you will be handled.

The government already limits your rights to bear arms. Otherwise, you would be allowed to own an Apache helicopter.

As for making schools safer, I agree, with the gun buyers paying for all costs. Bulletproof glass, armed guards, metal detectors like they have at airports, etc. It won't cost a lot, say 5% on taxes.

The rest is nonsense. Muslims are in a hurry to get to heaven for their virgins. Americans are in a hurry to to Macdees for a free burger.

How many died in the civil war?

They beat an army 6,000 miles from home and armed with similar weapons.

Did they go house to house to defeat the Branch Davidians?

The US government would pass laws and Americans would moan and gripe about it and do nothing. Your rights have changed since the Constitution was written, changing it again wouldn't be a problem. Especially if the voting public demand it. And there's the problem so many things are done to us that we shouldn't allow and you we sit meekly and take it.

It's amazing how you dismiss so many people dying with stats engineered to show a bad result.

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I would estimate that most people who take all their guns into a public place and start killing people are slightly to largely deranged. So obviously the system is completely inadequate.

He could have killed far less if he had a muzzleloader. The problem with your idea is the NRA isn't everywhere and the perpetrators are usually set on a suicide mission.

How do you know most of the people who do these killings aren't "law-abiding citizens" until they start killing people?

I'm talking gun related crime, not gun related homicides, gun related crime also includes non fatal shootings.

There's the Pittsburgh prison inmates study from 2008 - that has the highest figure, totaling the number of guns owned by the perpetrators to 18 pct, that's widely cited even in mainstream media (and present in the Google results).

Then there's the Chicago inmates study conducted by Duke University and the University of Chicago in 2013, that puts the legal possession by crime use of inmates to 3 pct, but that doesn't have that much of a big sample of inmates. Also there are regional specifics - tougher background checks and higher previous felony rates (which in most cases means a disqualification from being able to obtain a gun legally).

Then there's testimonials from actual law enforcement officers that estimate cca 95 pct. gun crime is committed with guns that were not legally purchased by the perpetrator. That could be about right, especially if it also includes the cca 30 pct. of cases that didn't lead to an arrest and / or where a gun was not recovered.

I mean it's just common sense, even the criminals are in general not very sharp, the stupidest thing one can do in crime is to use a gun that's legally registered on his name.

So I stand corrected and of course accept the shit. But also remain confident that if most, if not every of the media outlets dropped their, not even hidden bias. There would be no need to double and triple-check everything they ever claim.

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The American people have a long record of losing control over their lives. Rights are taken away by the Government. The biggest one was the Rights to own slaves.

There's a long list of people being prosecuted for doing things that were considered legal at the time of the Constitution. Killing Native Americans, stealing land from Mexico would come after slaves.

So let's look at what Washington said. Can you own enough arms to seriously worry the Government? No way.

Have you sat down meekly and allowed a certain class to buy your Government? Yes.

Have you allowed various Presidents to lie and kill fellow Americans in phony wars? Yes.

Just god forbid anyone finds out a President got a BJ or hired a hooker. Then all hell breaks loose.

The Republicans are as guilty as the Democrats in this fight. As they are in most fights regarding political issues. The same small class of people make sure of that.

As for civil war, you wouldn't get off your butts to do anything. Which is why the 1% now own your government. Whichever side gets voted in it's $$$$ from billionaires that get their way.

You are like one of those lap dogs barking behind a window.. Threatening people on the internet.. such a tough guy.

That wrong I owned full automatics back in the 70s, anyone had the right to own a machine gun as they still do, its just that now I have to jump throiugh a lot more hoops....I have a friend whoin the 70s, bought a Solothurn 50mm anti aircraft canon out of the back of a comic book for 99 dollars, and yes it was fully functional.

Not saying gun control efforts are new, they arent but back then gun control was to prevent black people from owning guns and the NRA fought that tooth and nail and won)

Gun control as we know it is relatively new, happening in my lifetime

Apparently Remington just filed for bankruptcy. I would have thought gun sales would have gone through the roof with all this talk of taking away AR15s. But sales are way down once Trump took office.

Maybe not a helicopter but I can buy a fully operational tank....

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I dont think a 5% tax will do but Im not against that.

I think you seriously overestimate Muslims desire to die. They held Monsul for months. They didnt just walk out and get shot on purpose. And I think you seriously underestimate the number of Americans willing to die to defend their country and the Constitution. See your question below....

That was 1 encampment. There would be thousands of similar encampments. And that took 76 days for the government to destroy the encampment. And if you believe the FBI, the Branch Dividians destroyed their own compound, not the US military or law enforcement. It took 76 days because the US government didnt want to kill US citizens.

Federal government agents and Las Vegas Sheriffs backed down in the Clive Bundy armed standoff in Nevada. Even the Sheriff of Las Vegas admitted they were outgunned, outmanned and had to back-down.

Bundy had the support of the Governor of Nevada, and numerous state representatives in Nevada and Arizona.

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Laws mean nothing. People break "laws" all the time. Even good people break laws. Its when they try to take the guns that you will see a change in people's thinking and action. No one is taking to the streets when a bump stock is banned. When the government starts a registry of gun owners - that will cause push back. When they go house to house to confiscate weapons, then people will have to make a decision. And most will hand over their weapons like sheep. But there will be millions of them that will take action.

The Bundy action was over confiscation of a herd of cows by the federal government. Imagine what will happen when they try to confiscate the guns.

Has anyone in this thread ever been SHOT?
Has anyone on this Forum ever have a gun pointed in your face?
Has anyone posting here ever had their lives flash before their eyes, convinced that everything they have (or ever will have) can be taken away BLAM in a second?

No of course not. The Internet (and this place) is jam packed with know-it-all idiots with opinions based on fantasy.

IF you have faced death, taken a bullet, been confronted by a madman with a gun THEN I will take your views seriously. Everyone else? Blah blah fuck off.

I wouldn't hand mine over fuck that.

A national gun registry would be disastrous end fucked up and I'd fight that.

All it takes is one evil leader and they could fuck with the whole system and go door-to-door trying to take guns so they can disarm the people and make us all sheep fuck that! Trump is a perfect example if he could do it he would do it. The only world leaders he respects are the dictators like Durterte , Erdogan, Putin, etc. I'm sure others felt that way about Obama and others do no matter what side you're on you're going to favor having armed civilians :thumbsup

I was wrtong on that. I expected more common sense from the US.

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I think you seriously overestimate that number. Muslims Terrorist do have a desire to die rather than surrender a no win war.





In a civil war, all bets are off. How long did Gettysburg take?



No doubt a few groups like the Bundys and Branch Davidians will resist. But small groups like those aren't the problem. And no is suggesting the Government will take all your guns. Where did you get that piece of baloney from?

Please don't say the NRA told that.