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directfiesta 06-04-2018 03:56 PM

....sad!

Rochard 06-04-2018 03:57 PM

Has anyone else we have moved from "no collusion" to "you cannot charge the President" and "The President can pardon himself".

This is ridiculous. Let's just say the Mueller investigation comes back and says we believe Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice. Great - They move to impeach him, and before he is removed form office Trump pardons himself. A week later the Mueller investigation comes forward and says "During the course of our investigation we also discovered sixteen other, unrelated crimes" - perhaps something about finances. At that point, he is no longer President, he can be subpoena, he can be required to testify under oath, he can be charged, AND he can be sentenced and imprisoned.

Of course, just imagine if he did pardon himself. The GOP would drop him like a hot potato radioactive. I'm not talking about Republicans in general, but instead I'm talking about the rank and file Republican Congressmen and Congresswomen. There is no way Congress would stand for this.

I'm sorry, Trump is guilty as sin. The proper thing to do would have been to say "Yes, I will sit down and testify under oath" without any rules. This is what Clinton did when he was under investigation. But of course Trump cannot do this....

onwebcam 06-04-2018 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22281569)
I'm sorry, Trump is guilty as sin.

And your proof is?

xClips Jim 06-04-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22281571)
And your proof is?

He doesn't even know what he's guilty of, let alone be asked to muster proof.

crockett 06-04-2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22281494)
...but...but .Hillary

Of course you want to blame Hillary...

kane 06-04-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22281569)
Has anyone else we have moved from "no collusion" to "you cannot charge the President" and "The President can pardon himself".

This is ridiculous. Let's just say the Mueller investigation comes back and says we believe Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice. Great - They move to impeach him, and before he is removed form office Trump pardons himself. A week later the Mueller investigation comes forward and says "During the course of our investigation we also discovered sixteen other, unrelated crimes" - perhaps something about finances. At that point, he is no longer President, he can be subpoena, he can be required to testify under oath, he can be charged, AND he can be sentenced and imprisoned.

Of course, just imagine if he did pardon himself. The GOP would drop him like a hot potato radioactive. I'm not talking about Republicans in general, but instead I'm talking about the rank and file Republican Congressmen and Congresswomen. There is no way Congress would stand for this.

I'm sorry, Trump is guilty as sin. The proper thing to do would have been to say "Yes, I will sit down and testify under oath" without any rules. This is what Clinton did when he was under investigation. But of course Trump cannot do this....

It's Trump has now gone to the defense of, "Don't even bother because even if you do I will just pardon myself so this is all a waste of time." As if Mueller is just going to go, "Ah, he's right. Let's pack it in."

xClips Jim 06-04-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22281580)
Of course you want to blame Hillary...

Of course, you want to absolve Hillary...

xClips Jim 06-04-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22281581)
It's Trump has now gone to the defense of, "Don't even bother because even if you do I will just pardon myself so this is all a waste of time." As if Mueller is just going to go, "Ah, he's right. Let's pack it in."

I realize you aren't going to see it that way - and that's fine - but he's fucking with the MSM. Your analysis is correct - hence why it's a troll.

crockett 06-04-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22281585)
Of course, you want to absolve Hillary...

I dont give a shit about Hillary anymore than I give a shit about George Bush. She is not elected to any office and holds no govt positions..

Maybe you should wake up and get with the times.. It's like you think Hillary is POTUS.

You and all your fellow cult members live in a fantasy world where you think she's going to jail. You are a fool and easily confused and told who to hate by your messiah.

onwebcam 06-04-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22281581)
It's Trump has now gone to the defense of, "Don't even bother because even if you do I will just pardon myself so this is all a waste of time." As if Mueller is just going to go, "Ah, he's right. Let's pack it in."


Giuliani: Mueller admitted his team can’t indict Trump
https://nypost.com/2018/05/16/giulia...-indict-trump/


Date of Issuance:
Monday, October 16, 2000
Headnotes:

The indictment or cnminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...24-p0222_0.pdf

RedFred 06-04-2018 04:34 PM

You either support The Constitution or you support Trump. You cannot support both.

xClips Jim 06-04-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22281590)
You are a fool and easily confused and told who to hate by your messiah.

I'm sure that feels comforting to say, however, it has no basis in reality. I have no clue if Hillary will go to jail. I don't care if she does or doesn't, because - as you point out - she lost and is meaningless except as a vehicle to point out anti-Trump hypocrisy. It is the ONLY reason she gets trotted out - at least by me. I also don't hate anyone.

Your narrative, while I'm sure it feels warm and cuddly, is infantile and without merit. But you know that.

crockett 06-04-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22281594)
I'm sure that feels comforting to say, however, it has no basis in reality. I have no clue if Hillary will go to jail. I don't care if she does or doesn't, because - as you point out - she lost and is meaningless except as a vehicle to point out anti-Trump hypocrisy. It is the ONLY reason she gets trotted out - at least by me. I also don't hate anyone.

Your narrative, while I'm sure it feels warm and cuddly, is infantile and without merit. But you know that.

The difference between Hillary and Trump, is she sat by and let investigation after investigation take place no matter how ridiculous many of them were and time after time she was absolved of any criminal activity.

Meanwhile, Trump can't make it past a day with out trying to obstruct justice..


One is tne actions of a person that knew she didnt do anything wrong, the other is the actions of someone who has everything to hide.

xClips Jim 06-04-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22281605)
The difference between Hillary and Trump, is she sat by and let investigation after investigation take place no matter how ridiculous ma y of them were and time after time she was absolved of any criminal activity.

Meanwhile, Trump can't make it past a day with out trying to obstruct justice..


One is tne actions of a person that knew she didnt do anything wrong, the other is the actions of someone who has everything to hide.

Yeah, I know it looks like that to you. It's why I forgive your idiocy. However, you are incorrect - as usual.

Meanwhile, in the world that has taken shape since then - a world where Clinton power has diminished considerably - Bill Priestap testifies before Congress tomorrow.

I wonder what he has to say?

kane 06-04-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22281591)
Giuliani: Mueller admitted his team can’t indict Trump
https://nypost.com/2018/05/16/giulia...-indict-trump/


Date of Issuance:
Monday, October 16, 2000
Headnotes:

The indictment or cnminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...24-p0222_0.pdf

I never thought Mueller could. They said early on that his role, when it comes to Trump himself, would be to submit his report and let the Congress do its job.

Rochard 06-04-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22281591)
Giuliani: Mueller admitted his team can’t indict Trump
https://nypost.com/2018/05/16/giulia...-indict-trump/


Date of Issuance:
Monday, October 16, 2000
Headnotes:

The indictment or cnminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...24-p0222_0.pdf

Of course they can indict Trump. Simple. Impeachment, removal, and then indict. Easy.

The Trump legal team strategy is put together by a six year old.

dyna mo 06-04-2018 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22281616)
Of course they can indict Trump. Simple. Impeachment, removal, and then indict. Easy.

The Trump legal team strategy is put together by a six year old.



trump will never be elected president. remember when you were claiming that.

Bladewire 06-04-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22281514)
He will be forcably removed from office as the Consitution tells us to do.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are … endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights…. That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men…. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. … Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Declaration of Independence (1776).

:thumbsup:flagface

onwebcam 06-04-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22281616)
Of course they can indict Trump. Simple. Impeachment, removal, and then indict. Easy.

The Trump legal team strategy is put together by a six year old.

Congress has decided that a President can't be impeached for crimes prior to his/her Presidency.

This is all beside the fact that there's nothing to the whole "Russia collusion" BS anyway.

GAMEFINEST 06-04-2018 05:56 PM

His more mental than we all thought.

directfiesta 06-04-2018 06:00 PM

100 dementia president ...

He repeats twice all what he says, in the same sentence ... it is a sign of dementia ...

Have fun with your Emperor ....

TheSquealer 06-04-2018 07:08 PM

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kane 06-04-2018 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22281661)

In the event that Trump is charged with something do you want him to pardon himself?

TheSquealer 06-04-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22281671)
In the event that Trump is charged with something do you want him to pardon himself?

I think one thing that Liberals have a very difficult accepting is that most people on the conservative side want to see the rule of law upheld. No matter where that leads and what it leads do.

If he can be proven to have committed a crime, he should be charged and tried.

I don't think you can find examples of anyone saying "Trump has done nothing wrong". Everyone knows he's a dickhead. He's been in the media for many decades being a dickhead. So the notion that "Trump is this" or "Trump is that" is just a bunch of crybabies who hated him before he was President, hating him as he is President. The left dertainly doesn't care about jons, the economy, the stock market, trade etc etc etc. Those things are all doing quite well. In fact, apart from "Hate Trump", anyone would have a hard time explaining what Democrats stand for at all right now. This is the real problem right now at the core of US Politics today.

You'd have to be completely out of your mind to not know at this point that all parties on all sides, from top to bottom, have blood on their hands and can't risk any sort of legitimate discovery process and a case argued in court.... but most people here only care about one side and one set of facts, so it wouldn't shock me at all to seem them yet again baffled (as they were when Trump won) that it all doesn't go anywhere. Russia Collusion has become the new faith of the Left and in the meantime, voters only care about jobs, taxes, economy, trade etc etc etc..... all the reasons Dems lost to begin with and mid-term polls are starting to show again that Dems will take a hit in the mid-terms.

beerptrol 06-05-2018 03:48 AM

Fun watching the chumpanzee cultist try to justify and point out liberal hypocrisy while ignoring their own hypocrisy

Same old shit...Hillary...Obama

keep sucking that Chump cock

Jel 06-05-2018 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22281684)
good shit as usual

while I'm on one of my rare logins... good to see you posting back here too. Hope you are well mate :thumbsup

crockett 06-05-2018 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22281684)
I think one thing that Liberals have a very difficult accepting is that most people on the conservative side want to see the rule of law upheld. No matter where that leads and what it leads do.

If he can be proven to have committed a crime, he should be charged and tried.

I don't think you can find examples of anyone saying "Trump has done nothing wrong". Everyone knows he's a dickhead. He's been in the media for many decades being a dickhead. So the notion that "Trump is this" or "Trump is that" is just a bunch of crybabies who hated him before he was President, hating him as he is President. The left dertainly doesn't care about jons, the economy, the stock market, trade etc etc etc. Those things are all doing quite well. In fact, apart from "Hate Trump", anyone would have a hard time explaining what Democrats stand for at all right now. This is the real problem right now at the core of US Politics today.

You'd have to be completely out of your mind to not know at this point that all parties on all sides, from top to bottom, have blood on their hands and can't risk any sort of legitimate discovery process and a case argued in court.... but most people here only care about one side and one set of facts, so it wouldn't shock me at all to seem them yet again baffled (as they were when Trump won) that it all doesn't go anywhere. Russia Collusion has become the new faith of the Left and in the meantime, voters only care about jobs, taxes, economy, trade etc etc etc..... all the reasons Dems lost to begin with and mid-term polls are starting to show again that Dems will take a hit in the mid-terms.

The all party argument as usual is another "distraction" you red hats and embarrassed Republicans love to toss out as a excuse for your continued support of the right's gutting of this country's policies and protections that made America great in the 1st place..

No big surprise to see you running amok trying to distract in this topic as well while once again ignoring the topic content.. are you sure you aren't a Robbie alt or are you just a typical clueless libertarian?

The right wing has been busy destroying what made America great and that's the once very large middle class. You fools are too stupid to understand that America will no be great once the middle class is gone.. You fool yourself into think you will be one of the 1%ers but you wont be.. you will be a chump crying he can't afford his medical bills soon as you get a bad ailment..

TheSquealer 06-05-2018 05:40 AM

Yes crockett, we all know everything you have to say, all the time. "They can do no right, we can do no wrong and I'm not biased at all (therefore my nutty rants are more valid than anything you say) because there was that one time I didn't like Obama's tie". We get it. You and people like Bladewire are bitter, mean, hateful and more biased than Karl Marx at a supermall, but somehow believe you're right in everything.

Oh, and lets not forget the favorite retort of the angry, intollerant, hateful and completely unhinged left... So I'll say it before you do... "I'm only hateful.and bitter and angry and mean because you made me this way".

Afterall, at this point why start taking personal responsibility for yourself and your behavior like a sane person.


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