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onwebcam 08-07-2018 08:13 AM

Collusion with a foreign entity

Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact Christopher Steele
https://www.scribd.com/document/3711...topher-Steele#

celandina 08-07-2018 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22316436)
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Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!

5:35 AM - 5 Aug 2018



Ummm Dumb Donald yes it is very much illegal. I told you he would throw his own son under the bus and that's why his son was pictured at the same airport terminal as Muller because his son has or is trying cut a deal to save himself.



I've lost track of how many times Trump said there was no meeting, that it wasn't about Hillary, that yes there was a meeting but it wasn't illegal to no there wasn't a meeting to now yes Don Jr met with Russians..

This must be the 10th version of Trump's explanation of the meeting.. The simple explanation = Trump campain willingly met with Russians to get dirt on Hillary which is very much illegal. Trump jr & Kushner are both going down or they give up Trump. Even if they don't give up fat daddy, it's almost certain Muller has enough to prove Trump was involved in conspiracy.



Fake POTUS.. no real POTUS would work with and conspire with the Russians to undermine our democratic election process..

....and the point is ??? My comment...so what :thumbsup

Bladewire 08-07-2018 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22317511)
....and the point is ??? My comment...so what :thumbsup

No depth to your reply. His reply was very detailed and in depth. Looks like you're trolling.

Rochard 08-07-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22317489)
The reality is the cover up of her emails is what began it all...

And again let's put the blame on Hillary...

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Robbie 08-07-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22317423)
Ah isn't that cute.

Robbie still thinks that the Trump posse and the Russian spies were discussing adoption........

You need to catch up Robbie, even your Orange Emperor has given up trying to keep up that pretence.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22317434)
Robbie doesn’t care. They all lie, and he got a tax break. :thumbsup

Hey guys...Trump Jr. already testified before Congress that he went there thinking he was getting dirt on Hillary. Turned out it was a ruse to get him in a meeting about the Magnitsky Act. You guys need to keep up and get informed. Your Trump-hatred has blinded you to actual facts.

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22317447)
Federal Election Campaign Act, Section 30121 of Title 52, broadly outlaws donations or other contributions of a “thing of value” by any foreigner in connection with a US election – or even an express or implied promise to take such action, directly or indirectly.

In other words even if Chump Jr didn't get the dirt he was promised he is still guilty of breaking the law by conspiring with a foreign entity!
Crump Jr. could also face perjury charges if he is shown to have lied to a Congressional committee about his intentions for the meeting and particularly his understanding of who would be there.
When he goes down, and he will, lets see if he flips on the old man.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
The longer this goes on, the more tweets Chump makes, the deeper he digs himself into the shit. He is doing Mullers job for him :thumbsup:thumbsup

That's a lot of conjecture and delusion in your post.
If you are trying to stretch out that a thing of value is being told that Hillary did something bad...then Hillary should be in prison right now for BUYING info from the Russians (The Steele Dossier).

But you see...that's stretching to create a "crime" because that's what happens when you are consumed by hate and unable to think clearly.

By the way guys...this is all OLD news. Pres. Trump said this was a meeting to get dirt on Hillary back in July of 2017. So he said absolutely nothing new in this latest tweet.
And of course Trump Jr. already testified and showed his phone records to Congress over a year ago and said that "yes" he went there because he was promised "dirt", but it turned out to be bullshit and a waste of time as the girl was there trying to get him to promise to overturn the Magnitsky Act and he had no interest in that.

OLD News that the hate-Trump-obsessed media are pretending they don't "remember" reporting on it over a year ago...hell, it was a public press conference that Trump said it was to get info. And it was held over one year ago. They didn't even have to "report" it because Trump said it publicly. Just like he did this time too.

You guys are so caught up with hate that you also conveniently "forget" all of that. Just like you "forget" all the things that the politicians you love said and did.

I guess that's what you do when you are trying to "win" an argument (whatever THAT even means on a message board lol).
But all this kind of thing does is fire up the base for Trump. We see what's happening. We see the double standards and hypocrisy. And it empowers Trump's position that the establishment is against him and the press are lying.

Maybe if Trump is really "Hitler" and a "racist"...maybe the media should just report all the "Facist" things and "racist" things he does and stop speculating endlessly.

At this point...it's just every day: "Trump MUST be lying about being a Russian spy. Therefore he is also a facist and a racist!!!"

Total insanity from my viewpoint.

P.S. Slapass: If you are REALLY a businessman then you are incorporated. That means YOU got a very nice corporate tax break as well a private tax break. It isn't just "Me". And that's not what is important about the tax cut. The important thing is allowing big corporations to repatriate their money to the U.S. by bringing our tax code down to where other country's have theirs. It's good for jobs and the economy.

Bladewire 08-07-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317617)
Hey guys...Trump Jr. already testified before Congress that he went there thinking he was getting dirt on Hillary. Turned out it was a ruse to get him in a meeting about the Magnitsky Act. You guys need to keep up and get informed. Your Trump-hatred has blinded you to actual facts.



That's a lot of conjecture and delusion in your post.
If you are trying to stretch out that a thing of value is being told that Hillary did something bad...then Hillary should be in prison right now for BUYING info from the Russians (The Steele Dossier).

But you see...that's stretching to create a "crime" because that's what happens when you are consumed by hate and unable to think clearly.

By the way guys...this is all OLD news. Pres. Trump said this was a meeting to get dirt on Hillary back in July of 2017. So he said absolutely nothing new in this latest tweet.
And of course Trump Jr. already testified and showed his phone records to Congress over a year ago and said that "yes" he went there because he was promised "dirt", but it turned out to be bullshit and a waste of time as the girl was there trying to get him to promise to overturn the Magnitsky Act and he had no interest in that.

OLD News that the hate-Trump-obsessed media are pretending they don't "remember" reporting on it over a year ago...hell, it was a public press conference that Trump said it was to get info. And it was held over one year ago. They didn't even have to "report" it because Trump said it publicly. Just like he did this time too.

You guys are so caught up with hate that you also conveniently "forget" all of that. Just like you "forget" all the things that the politicians you love said and did.

I guess that's what you do when you are trying to "win" an argument (whatever THAT even means on a message board lol).
But all this kind of thing does is fire up the base for Trump. We see what's happening. We see the double standards and hypocrisy. And it empowers Trump's position that the establishment is against him and the press are lying.

Maybe if Trump is really "Hitler" and a "racist"...maybe the media should just report all the "Facist" things and "racist" things he does and stop speculating endlessly.

At this point...it's just every day: "Trump MUST be lying about being a Russian spy. Therefore he is also a facist and a racist!!!"

Total insanity from my viewpoint.

P.S. Slapass: If you are REALLY a businessman then you are incorporated. That means YOU got a very nice corporate tax break as well a private tax break. It isn't just "Me". And that's not what is important about the tax cut. The important thing is allowing big corporations to repatriate their money to the U.S. by bringing out tax code down to where other country's have theirs. It's good for jobs and the economy.

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Ignorance fed by dogma & misogyny

onwebcam 08-07-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22317533)
And again let's put the blame on Hillary...

http://rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/emails.jpg

"Under this interpretation of federal election laws, Clinton and her surrogates would be equally guilty in using a former foreign spy to gather information on Trump from foreign sources, including Russians."

Not equally, she actually paid for, received and used it...


You might want to read this
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary...4gpbYU.twitter

Bladewire 08-07-2018 10:36 AM

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Foreign run alt-right hate fake nic melting down as the walls closing in on Trump and alt-right accounts bring erased from American social media.

Shellshocked, all he can think about is Hillary & Obama :evil-laug:evil-laug:evil-laug

onwebcam 08-07-2018 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22317629)
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Foreign run alt-right hate fake nic melting down as the walls closing in on Trump and alt-right accounts bring erased from American social media.

Shellshocked, all he can think about is Hillary & Obama :evil-laug:evil-laug:evil-laug

Manafort and Obama used the same media company..

Ukraine will be exposed my dear Ukranian

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkA6DhxVsAEb3RA.jpg

Manafort and Obama also used the same lawfirm.. The one his Whitehouse counsel worked for....

Busty2 08-07-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317617)
That's a lot of conjecture and delusion in your post.
If you are trying to stretch out that a thing of value is being told that Hillary did something bad...then Hillary should be in prison right now for BUYING info from the Russians (The Steele Dossier).


I didn't write the law and i won't have to interpret it ( although i think it self explanatory ) I leave that up to Mullers attorneys.

I personally don't hate Chump but i do despise him, he is the very worst kind of human being, a bully who is uneducated, insecure and totally incapable of running this great country. His actions will echo throughout history as the very worst ever enacted by a US president and the poor sod who follows him will spend years digging their way out of the mess he is creating. I sincerely hope and pray Muller has the evidence to wipe this guy out and we can get back to actually Making America Great Again instead of repeatedly filling the swap until it overflows with THE BEST PEOPLE !

Robbie 08-07-2018 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22317686)
I didn't write the law and i won't have to interpret it ( although i think it self explanatory ) I leave that up to Mullers attorneys.

I personally don't hate Chump but i do despise him, he is the very worst kind of human being, a bully who is uneducated, insecure and totally incapable of running this great country. His actions will echo throughout history as the very worst ever enacted by a US president and the poor sod who follows him will spend years digging their way out of the mess he is creating. I sincerely hope and pray Muller has the evidence to wipe this guy out and we can get back to actually Making America Great Again instead of repeatedly filling the swap until it overflows with THE BEST PEOPLE !

Hey if that's your opinion then make sure to get out and vote for someone who you think can do a good job.
I personally think Trump is doing a great job. Though I will admit that if I only watched CNN or MSNBC I would probably think the country is being destroyed.

They don't report on all the great economic news (manufacturing jobs DID come back and millions of people have left foodstamps and are back in the work force for instance). And they don't report in any positive way the things Pres. Trump has done in foreign policy...which I think he has reversed the previous administration's policy of "Strategic Patience" (which meant, doing nothing) and has put the country back in the drivers seat.

But watching those two news channels...you don't hear ANY of that.
All you get is 24 hour a day opinion panels talking about how Trump is going to get nailed by Mueller. And every once in a while they throw in stuff about him being "racist" and a "fascist" without ever giving examples of why they are saying that.

I think Pres. Obama said it best a few years ago when he "attacked" Fox News (he didn't really "attack" them, but that's the way it's described whenever Trump says something in 2018). He said: "If I only watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me either"

Our media is dividing us. And they are deceiving us as well.

The country is in the midst of a huge economic revival. People are seeing positive changes in their real lives. But we aren't being told about it.

Think about it for a minute.
They just had a media study that showed 90% of all media coverage is NEGATIVE about Pres. Trump.
And the 10% that is positive is probably Fox News. lol

That's right...historical low unemployment numbers? Negative coverage.
4 major pharmaceutical companies freezing prices after Trump threatened them. No coverage at all.
Singapore summit with North Korea and getting back remains of our soldiers that were held since the 1950's? Negative coverage.
ISIS physically destroyed in the mid-east: No coverage
Manufacturing jobs at the highest in over a decade? No coverage

The list goes on and on and on.

No wonder you are pissed at Trump.

baddog 08-07-2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22317686)
I didn't write the law and i won't have to interpret it ( although i think it self explanatory ) I leave that up to Mullers attorneys.

I personally don't hate Chump but i do despise him, he is the very worst kind of human being, a bully who is uneducated, insecure and totally incapable of running this great country. His actions will echo throughout history as the very worst ever enacted by a US president and the poor sod who follows him will spend years digging their way out of the mess he is creating. I sincerely hope and pray Muller has the evidence to wipe this guy out and we can get back to actually Making America Great Again instead of repeatedly filling the swap until it overflows with THE BEST PEOPLE !

#somuchirony

onwebcam 08-07-2018 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22317686)
I didn't write the law and i won't have to interpret it ( although i think it self explanatory ) I leave that up to Mullers attorneys.

I personally don't hate Chump but i do despise him, he is the very worst kind of human being, a bully who is uneducated, insecure and totally incapable of running this great country. His actions will echo throughout history as the very worst ever enacted by a US president and the poor sod who follows him will spend years digging their way out of the mess he is creating. I sincerely hope and pray Muller has the evidence to wipe this guy out and we can get back to actually Making America Great Again instead of repeatedly filling the swap until it overflows with THE BEST PEOPLE !

You mean like Feinstein who had a spy by her side for decades while her hubby got rich off his investments in the spy's country?

Or do you mean like Hillary who got rich off of a fake foundation selling out America in any way she could?

crockett 08-07-2018 02:56 PM

This topic shows that Trump is the Pied Piper of Stupid...

RedFred 08-07-2018 03:14 PM

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slapass 08-07-2018 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317617)
Hey guys...Trump Jr. already testified before Congress that he went there thinking he was getting dirt on Hillary. Turned out it was a ruse to get him in a meeting about the Magnitsky Act. You guys need to keep up and get informed. Your Trump-hatred has blinded you to actual facts.



That's a lot of conjecture and delusion in your post.
If you are trying to stretch out that a thing of value is being told that Hillary did something bad...then Hillary should be in prison right now for BUYING info from the Russians (The Steele Dossier).

But you see...that's stretching to create a "crime" because that's what happens when you are consumed by hate and unable to think clearly.

By the way guys...this is all OLD news. Pres. Trump said this was a meeting to get dirt on Hillary back in July of 2017. So he said absolutely nothing new in this latest tweet.
And of course Trump Jr. already testified and showed his phone records to Congress over a year ago and said that "yes" he went there because he was promised "dirt", but it turned out to be bullshit and a waste of time as the girl was there trying to get him to promise to overturn the Magnitsky Act and he had no interest in that.

OLD News that the hate-Trump-obsessed media are pretending they don't "remember" reporting on it over a year ago...hell, it was a public press conference that Trump said it was to get info. And it was held over one year ago. They didn't even have to "report" it because Trump said it publicly. Just like he did this time too.

You guys are so caught up with hate that you also conveniently "forget" all of that. Just like you "forget" all the things that the politicians you love said and did.

I guess that's what you do when you are trying to "win" an argument (whatever THAT even means on a message board lol).
But all this kind of thing does is fire up the base for Trump. We see what's happening. We see the double standards and hypocrisy. And it empowers Trump's position that the establishment is against him and the press are lying.

Maybe if Trump is really "Hitler" and a "racist"...maybe the media should just report all the "Facist" things and "racist" things he does and stop speculating endlessly.

At this point...it's just every day: "Trump MUST be lying about being a Russian spy. Therefore he is also a facist and a racist!!!"

Total insanity from my viewpoint.

P.S. Slapass: If you are REALLY a businessman then you are incorporated. That means YOU got a very nice corporate tax break as well a private tax break. It isn't just "Me". And that's not what is important about the tax cut. The important thing is allowing big corporations to repatriate their money to the U.S. by bringing our tax code down to where other country's have theirs. It's good for jobs and the economy.

I got a huge tax break. Bannon admitted the only reason we got that was to buy off the Republicans. I also like a lower corporate tax rate as I see it as being good for the country. I do not see this as black and white. Does Trump lie? All the time. He knew nothing of the meeting. Then he knew. Then he helped write the response, then he dictated the response. They have admitted they tried to collude.

On the whole meeting thing, I assume the Russians realized these bozos would fuck it up. They just helped behind the scenes.

There is a theory that like a sixteen caught high, they admitted to beer and failed to mention the pot. I think we will see.

Robbie, you are a businessman also and we both know we could not run our shit this way. I admit we have never met but we have been on here for a long time and I know we would have a blast together.

As an aside, we both did well, really well as affiliates. We also both openly talked about when the tide had turned. How well do you think a golf club developer has done over the last decade? Just something to think about. Lol.

Bladewire 08-07-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22317832)
This topic shows that Trump is the Pied Piper of Stupid...

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Robbie 08-07-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22317945)
I got a huge tax break. Bannon admitted the only reason we got that was to buy off the Republicans. I also like a lower corporate tax rate as I see it as being good for the country. I do not see this as black and white. Does Trump lie? All the time. He knew nothing of the meeting. Then he knew. Then he helped write the response, then he dictated the response. They have admitted they tried to collude.

On the whole meeting thing, I assume the Russians realized these bozos would fuck it up. They just helped behind the scenes.

There is a theory that like a sixteen caught high, they admitted to beer and failed to mention the pot. I think we will see.

Robbie, you are a businessman also and we both know we could not run our shit this way. I admit we have never met but we have been on here for a long time and I know we would have a blast together.

As an aside, we both did well, really well as affiliates. We also both openly talked about when the tide had turned. How well do you think a golf club developer has done over the last decade? Just something to think about. Lol.

I have no idea how Trump is going to have any business at all when this is all over.
They went after him and everything he owned the day he announced. I'm guessing his businesses have taken a major, major hit from him being President and the pretty bad backlash over him winning.

I'm guessing he will be the first President in a long time to leave office poorer than when he went in.

Can you imagine trying to check in to a Trump hotel? Or go to one of his stores in New York?
Or even trying to go to a store that carries his clothing lines and such?
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...1#perfumania-4

I'm guessing his wife and kids are pretty pissed that he took this on.

slapass 08-07-2018 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317949)
I have no idea how Trump is going to have any business at all when this is all over.
They went after him and everything he owned the day he announced. I'm guessing his businesses have taken a major, major hit from him being President and the pretty bad backlash over him winning.

I'm guessing he will be the first President in a long time to leave office poorer than when he went in.

Can you imagine trying to check in to a Trump hotel? Or go to one of his stores in New York?
Or even trying to go to a store that carries his clothing lines and such?
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...1#perfumania-4

I'm guessing his wife and kids are pretty pissed that he took this on.

I would agree with that.

As for Trump, I think he is a moron. But he does lots of stuff so some of it will be good I am sure.

Rochard 08-07-2018 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317949)
I have no idea how Trump is going to have any business at all when this is all over.
They went after him and everything he owned the day he announced. I'm guessing his businesses have taken a major, major hit from him being President and the pretty bad backlash over him winning.

I'm guessing he will be the first President in a long time to leave office poorer than when he went in.

Can you imagine trying to check in to a Trump hotel? Or go to one of his stores in New York?
Or even trying to go to a store that carries his clothing lines and such?
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...1#perfumania-4

I'm guessing his wife and kids are pretty pissed that he took this on.

Imagine what will happen if he is impeached and or removed from office.... His entire business is built on his brand, and if he ends up getting forced out of office or resigns.... His brand will be worthless.

I also don't think Trump is worth as much as we think.

celandina 08-08-2018 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22317520)
No depth to your reply. His reply was very detailed and in depth. Looks like you're trolling.

Not quite, my point was who gives a shit about Junior ( or Senior for that matter) meeting with Russians, there is NOTHING wrong with it. Actually if it helps to avoid a confrontation with an equivalent power, I say great.

However this meeting should be investigated by Mueller

https://i.redd.it/ad3n1wes1y2z.jpg

Robbie 08-08-2018 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22318179)
Not quite, my point was who gives a shit about Junior ( or Senior for that matter) meeting with Russians, there is NOTHING wrong with it. Actually if it helps to avoid a confrontation with an equivalent power, I say great.

However this meeting should be investigated by Mueller

https://i.redd.it/ad3n1wes1y2z.jpg

Yeah McCain turned out to be a total idiot in every way in his later years.
That bullshit meeting with people who turned out to be ISIS was just crazy. And if you remember...he was raising hell in Congress to send them money and arms!

It seems like he was always trying to get people killed in war at every turn. And yet, the press always report on him as if he is the ONE guy in the Senate who would never want war because of his experience in Vietnam.

And yet...if you look at his actual record he was always pushing for war at every turn.

crockett 08-08-2018 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22317949)
I have no idea how Trump is going to have any business at all when this is all over.
They went after him and everything he owned the day he announced. I'm guessing his businesses have taken a major, major hit from him being President and the pretty bad backlash over him winning.

I'm guessing he will be the first President in a long time to leave office poorer than when he went in.

Can you imagine trying to check in to a Trump hotel? Or go to one of his stores in New York?
Or even trying to go to a store that carries his clothing lines and such?
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...1#perfumania-4

I'm guessing his wife and kids are pretty pissed that he took this on.

If he didn't do anything illegal he has nothing to hide.. You cry about this yet you supported countless investigations into Hillary..

Can't take the heat.. stay out of the kitchen.. Ihope Trump is ruined and gets locked up. I hope his kids have nothing..

Just like most of the kids in this country whose parents can't get decent jobs anymore thanks to people like Trump..

Bladewire 08-08-2018 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22318195)
Yeah McCain turned out to be a total idiot in every way in his later years.
That bullshit meeting with people who turned out to be ISIS was just crazy. And if you remember...he was raising hell in Congress to send them money and arms!

It seems like he was always trying to get people killed in war at every turn. And yet, the press always report on him as if he is the ONE guy in the Senate who would never want war because of his experience in Vietnam.

And yet...if you look at his actual record he was always pushing for war at every turn.

Strange how Trump has no conditions on meeting Putin last month, the guy behind our election meddling, but Trump has all sorts of conditions on meeting with his own justice department investigating the election meddling. You have a fucked up sense of what's right & wrong

You're trying to change the topic of a Trump thread, as usual, to focus on an alt-right enemy, this time McCain.

Thread topic is: Trump admits his son met with Russians to get dirt on Hillary..


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