Paul sucks ass

Well reading that statement... where it came from was "a man at the front door"

by the way. Not one US news outlet was reporting ANYTHING about the shooter. The first outlet I seen it on was Paul's link SKY News.

Sky reported that the shooter was a middle easterner.

Yup, step in the right direction if you ask me. I was super happy CNN did that. One analyst they had on slipped up and said the name, but all day they have stuck to their guns. I didn't watch any other stations today but if you say they all followed suit, that is a step in the right direction.

Although I don't know what news outlet it was that asked the father of the victim if ''there are too many guns out there'' while I do think it's a topic worth debating, it was vile that she did so while he was talking to the press to announce that his son was just murdered.

That description was actually in that article that Paul posted. I read it. The article is changed now.. but it did have that info, and it was exactly the way Paul pasted it.

Right... because too many guns out there is a fucking given.

Well you can certainly have that debate, but I don't think the time to push the gun control agenda on a grieving father is minutes after he learned his son is dead. Time and a place for everything right?

And who owns sky? asking for a friiend

I do agree with what you are saying. However, this is getting old and simply doing things the way have been doing them, is not fucking working.

People who want to see a change in the amount of murders we are having, are not the ones doing the murdering. :2 cents:

Comcast, I don't understand your point

I thought Murdoch did, but it looks like Comcast now.

Yup, I can't argue that. Personally I thought the Media needed to stop reporting and giving the shooters ''glory''. I always thought it was a bit disgusting that they reported on the killer etc.. to increase views / profit, while pushing Gun Control debates at the same time.

Now I believe they really turned a corner and I think they can really say they are doing their part.

It seems clear that with quite a few of the shootings in the last year or so that there have been many red flags. It really is time to talk about confiscation for people who have had the police called on them, some type of program where they have to earn their guns back through help or whatever the hell is needed. You get DUI you lose your license, you shoot a gun off in an argument at home and get to keep it?

Rand was the first "news reporter" on site.. That's how it began.

Oh interesting!

They didn't post anywhere in the story that they made a retraction or edit. That's tacky

There is a very simple solution to this. Gun nutters will go crazy over this and argue this with me. Keep in mind I have firearms myself.

We need more gun laws. There are two main reasons we have such attacks - anger issues, or mental health issues. We need gun laws that will work deal with these two items.

Anger Issues: If someone has any kind of interaction with the police where violence is involved, they need to have their firearms taken away from them. If you assaulted someone, hit your spouse, threatened someone, resisted arrest.... Your firearms are taken away from you, and you loose the right to purchase or own more firearms. This would be for a set period of time PLUS you should be required to take anger management classes.

Mental Heal Issues: If you have mental health issues, PTSD, etc, you should lose the right to own firearms.

We also need to go a step further and say that if someone has any of these two issues, they are not allowed to live in a house where firearms are stored.

This is common sense. Yet somehow it's not happening.

the beard is not fake at all...

What is a "camp grad photo"?

They're so desperate spreading their photoshopped pics

What about his Taqiyah?

How about a link to his "recent social media"?

Scrubbed

By who? He dead.

every shooter is always scaring the fuck out of everybody around them... but nobody reports them.... check thess out https://www.investigationdiscovery.c...il-lives-here/

yes I agree the issue is people so we will regulate and inanimate object... makes sense now :thumbsup

You sure you ain't popping them pills bro?

98% of all things regulated are "inanimate objects" you dope

The level of stupidity that you stoop to with every post you make used to amaze me. Now.. it just expected.

Beware of the cracker!...did you know that you are 1.850.000.000x more likely to be killed by a cracker than by a pitbull?

I knew!

This is just complete hypocrisy btw. I know its a video game, but cmon. CNN, shouldn't have let this fly. We as a nation should be getting serious about this and we are not. None of us are. The only people who are getting serious is victims. We all bitch and complain one way or the other.. but then a few weeks after a mass shooting everyone forgets. It is now too the point that we are all desensitized. A few choice words are said, then its back to business.

This might seem like an attack on CNN, but its really just a reflection of who we ALL are as a society.

Should someone who has a mental illness own a gun? No. I would think that is something that we all could agree on.

Do we really need assault weapons or large capacity magazines in the hands of your neighbor? No.

This is not 1776 anymore.

I don't know why any of this is even up for argument.

Just like illegal immigration, these problems have gone on for too fucking long to where they created another problem that we cannot easily get out of. Too many guns now. Too many illegals. Guns continue to flow into the market, and Americans continue to hire illegals.

Meanwhile our owners, feed us bullshit everyday on the left and the right and most of us, fall in line with that bullshit.. they keep us arguing and our owners keep making money.

Until we all realize that, we are fucked.

Fucked.

You are one of the biggest pieces of shit to ever type on a computer. You are a fucking slave to your masters. I hope that feels good.

A fucking slave.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bo...r-middle-east/

richard, did you register your assault rifles this year?

So more fake news by the alt right. Surprise.

you do it for nukes ...

Nukes do not kill people .....

More propaganda from the Denialists...

That really is a terrible photo shop. I mean at least post ones that we could debate might be real like this one

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...otoshooped.jpg

Anyone else notice that no statement has been released of WHY he chose to murder a dozen innocent people? PTSD victims generally give reasons for acts like this. Why a bar, or why that bar? Did he have hatred for college kids who ignored him at that age?

Neighbors report that he didn’t have visitors and was a loner. But, he danced naked in his garage. Mmmkkkaaayyy. Strange, yes, but not illegal unless kids can see it, errr, him. Naked man dancing solo doesn’t scream MURDERER to me.

He lived with his mom. If not working, military back pay may help a little but he couldn’t afford his own car or rent. Nothing indicated MURDERER to me.

They need more information about him. He knew where security was stationed when he arrived so either he’d been there before or someone got the info.

(I cried when Mr Coffman said he’d been searching for his son desperately but couldn’t find him. Cell pinged inside club and many said he helped them escape. Cellphone tracking located him inside the club; he’d been shot and died).

A lot of anti-USA comments here. More mass murders than usual is true, but a handful of mentally-deranged people versus twelve million seemingly normal people doesn’t make the USA a bad place to live.

China doesn’t have much crime, they say, because thieves lose their hands, rapists lose their dicks, murderers lose their life quickly. What about Holland, Switzerland, Trinidad, Africa, etc? Mass murder is rare but why? Culture? Schooling? Parents? Consequences?

Prison in the USA seems not to be restrictive or helping. Counseling is rare, three meals a day, exercise, library, school, television, computers, visitors, purchased snacks, telephones available, and a lot of throat and ass action whether top or bottom.

What’s the answer? Yeah, I realize this should be a separate thread. Feel free to move half of it. I’m seriously interested in hearing thoughts on this subject.

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This is an American problem where it is too easy for mentally unstable people to own guns. Better firearm laws is a solution, it won't stop the problem but it will reduce the problem.

What's your reason for wanting to own assault weapons? There's the problem.

it's not a firearms fault lol. op how big is your military???

It's the fault of the government and the culture where people need to have tools designed to kill. Then making those tools even more effective at killing.

I have a right wing friend on my facebook and she always posts these horribly photoshoped memes with old pictures from internet. One time she had video of S. Korean police presented as German riot police, compared to bleeding US cops in Ferguson. I mean a blind man could tell those were Asian dudes marching and screaming, not German. No she insisted this was it. I even showed her original video yet she still reposts that garbage once in a while.

Images of the caravan. The excuse of fleeing violence wears thin when so many are men of working age. where are their parents, wives and children? Don't tell me they left them behind to face the violence alone.

The US and other countries pay good money that essentially keeps them poor. Outfitting military to keep the status quo. These people don't have weapons. Sorry, I don't like it either.. but if there was a chance they could fight and overthrow the corruption, better believe we'd send in reinforcements to stop it.

Still no excuse for leaving the family to face the dangers. In fact it's an excuse to take the family with you. Unless your reason for moving is only to work even if it takes the jobs of Americans.

The country of Africa?

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