He lied. He said we have a border crisis. We do not. In fact, immigration continues to drop.

Politically I dont agree with Robbie at all. It seemed to me,He got politically strange after the crash but without question he is a very hard worker and a very talented musican. If it wasnt porn he would be doing something else andI doing whatever it is pretty well.

He said the past presidents want him to do this. And they all said they said nothing to him. Lol

I personally like Robbie. We've hung out a handful of times in Vegas.

One thing we both agree on is what we think of the current state of news shows on TV. They no longer report the news, but instead debate it.

But he is a full on Trump supporter. He told us here on GFY that Trump lies and he is perfectly okay with it. Lying is never okay.

First, Yes.

Second, why are you changing the subject? Come on, accept the challenge. Has Trump said something that you know he has lied about?


Maybe, but I wasn't asking about exaggeration. But since you bring it up, the president is the president. Everything he says and does is important. Maybe he shouldn't exaggerate? Should't the true facts be enough for any situation?

Well, yes and no.

Let's take something pointless like the size of the inauguration. Of course it doesn't matter to me or you or anyone else, including Trump. It should not matter to Trump. But it seems to, and he made a big deal lying about it.

I, like you, would have just ignored it, but he kept insisting it was the biggest crowd ever. Did that make you wonder about what else he would lie about? It did me.

Now lets talk about something alot more serious. He said Hillary Clinton won the popular vote because of Fraud. Do you not think this is a dangerous thing to say? Does it not undermine the entire democratic voting process, and worry about about the transition of power in 2020 or 2024 when Trump will be replaced?

The peaceful transition of power has been a staple of the US for a long time. No one has ever questioned it or made people question it before.

Forget what others did. Clinton lied, Bush lied, etc. Should someone elses past actions make it OK for Trump to do the same?

No, I promise you that is not what I am trying to do. What I am trying to do is focus on single points.

What alot of people do on GFY is say "Yeah well what about Clinton this and Bengazzi that", etc. This is called "whatbaoutism" and doesn't do anything but cloud the issue. If you went to the bank to get a lone and they asked what your income was last year and you answered "Well my Neighbour made a million dollars", it doesn't answer the question, right?

Sometimes as you suggest, questions are "framed". I am trying to avoid that. I just want to know that as a defender of Trump, do you think or feel or know if he has lied to you. Flat-out lied. Thats all...

Well, Pelosi and Shumer are government officials, and Anderson Cooper is a reporter, so they could know. And, Don't forget that a host on Fox News also called Sarah Huckabee Sanders out on the same thing.

Peace Brotha!

CNN pressured networks not to cover the presidential address? That seems odd. How do you know this? I watch CNN and MSNBC (Surprise, I know!) and I didn't see any mention of that. In fact, all they seemed to talk about was that this was Trump's first time doing it, and had little countdown clocks up to the event. I really did not see what you are talking about. Share a link?

No, I think Hillary won the popular vote because of voter fraud in California.
Hell, I've thought that about most every Presidential election as far as the California vote goes.

And as far as past lies...Mark, I clearly pointed out that Pres. Clinton, Bush, and Obama told lies in which people DIED as a result.
Trump has not done that. Exaggerating on how "Great" something is doesn't kill people.

And no...you are not trying to "focus" on anything. lol
You know damn well that you are simply starting fights.

And for Christ's sake man...look at some of the people who are in agreement with you on GFY.
It ain't exactly a group of geniuses. lol

And again...NOBODY would know better than the actual Border Patrol agents.
In the recent White House meetings Pelosi and Shumer REFUSED to let the Homeland Security Secretary give her report via satellite from the border.

On the third meeting when she was finally allowed to speak without Pelosi interrupting her...Pelosi flat told her that she just doesn't "believe" what the border patrol is saying.

Dude, it's all politics.

The Democrat Party has ALWAYS been against illegal immigration and voted for walls many times.
But now?
Now that Trump wants the same thing...they are suddenly diametrically opposed.

Not exactly. I like to get involved with the fight. I have my opinions, and I'm anti-trump as the title of this thread suggests. It's also a fascinating topic and I have no idea how I made American politics a hobby.

But no, I'm not evil. Like you, I want whats right. A safe planet, healthy food, clean air and water, a few toys, great music, hot chicks, etc etc.

Peace.

For the last 24 hours that's all they've been talking about online.. "Why should we give him airtime?"

I watched CNN spend 2 days saying over and over that the networks "might not" cover the President because of his "lies".

It was a CONSTANT barrage. So if you were watching you couldn't have missed it.

Maybe Mark sees an international version of CNN?

This is all just more of your evil-ness as you try to lure me into a false sense of security... :1orglaugh

Honestly, I'd rather watch Trump. No disrespect to Stormy, but what Trump is talking about and doing shouldn't be ignored.

The little girls in that photo were murdered by a psychopath. Are you implying that Shumer and Pelosi are going to be murdered by Trump because he's a psychopath? Thats kind of a stretch, but...

Robbie think about what you just said.

First you said "CNN Pressured Networks NOT to cover the Presidents Address" as if they are making statements to other channels.

Now you have changed it to Talking about the subect of "Why should we give him air airtime"?

That is a pretty big difference.

And If I google the term "Did CNN say they might not cover the presidential address?" I get this:

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Some of the items are 2 and 3 days old. Sorry bud but I see no evidence that CNN pressured anyone.

Yes. That is a fair statement. The networks were talking about it. This isn't CNN telling others not to air it.

No dude. I want to go drinking with you one day and I don't want you to hit over the head with your beer. So any sense of security you feel coming from me is genuine, I promise. :D

Anyway, I'm done for the night. Goodnight!

There's so much lying going on in all layers of society, you should be completely stuffed by now unless you believe Trump is the only liar at the court.

Trump is the lesser evil and what you don't realize is that Obama and Clinton are trained liars, professionals. Perhabs you're fine with that just like I and others are with Trump.

Well at least they corrected him on some numbers tonight

LOL. Sure sure.

You just can't make this stuff up.

I completely disagree.

I am sure that all candidates and and government officials spin the truth, and at times lie outright. However, there is a huge difference between stretching the truth and sticking to an obvious outrageous lie that is easily proven to be a lie.

Robbie used an example of Obama lying today. He said that Obama claimed the Benghazi terrorist attack was because of a Youtube video. Is this a lie? Or was this a developing situation? This sure does sound possible - five US embassies in the Middle East were the target of protests because of this Youtube video. A week later we know this was a planned terrorist attack, but during the first few days it wasn't clear at all what had happened.

Obama and Hillary were professional liars? Sure sure. Obama went eight years without a single scandal while cutting unemployment in half, and Hillary went through a dozen investigations without a single charge.

I'm sorry, but Trump lies about everything. Every single thing.

Los Angeles County agrees to purge up to 1.5 million voters from its rolls in settlement
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-rolls-judici/

And thats not even counting the dead potential voters

How long was his shitty speech? fucking horrible

All of the networks had to decide to cover it or not.

Take Trump out of it. Didn't Obama once request to address the nation, and the networks said no?

The networks lose money when they do this. They don't want to do this. When they do this, the network heads meet at the White House and discuss if they should do it or not. Did CNN pressure the other networks not to air the speech? Sure. I am sure a number of networks were against it.

We need to stop this crap against the news networks. For the networks this is a business decision, not a political one.

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Trump stated in a Rose Garden news conference Friday: “This should have been done by all of the presidents that preceded me. And they all know it. Some of them have told me that we should have done it.”

THE FACTS: The four living ex-presidents do not back him up on this claim.

Politicians lie, get over it. They do this to get elected, to please their donors and to hide the truth. The good thing is now everyone is up in arms about politicians lying, okay only one at the moment.

What has happened over the last 40 years has been a shift towards corporations and away from the people. Real unemployment is booming, wages stagnated, debt increased, more in poverty, more relying on welfare, industry gutted, a reliance on banking that is doomed to bring problems and the emergence of a new Third World dictatorship as a world power.

That's what politicians deliver.

This is what your non-lying politicians deliver.

no man, its a lot worse:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-an-impression

"Pence calls Trump’s claim of border wall support from past presidents an ‘impression’"

let us face it,trump and his retinue have always been a complete pack of illict,lying scumbags...but what do you expect with filth with a mental illness

And to think you voted him president....what fools.

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should be interesting to see how voting goes over next 10 years.. was trump a vote for racism or was it a vote to end unceasing wars? i think that will be made clear for next election or after

It was a scares vote, out of racism and fear, but mostly to troll Democrats. The GOP is the party of ignorance. They promote lies and anti-science and have been doing so for a while. They stand against gun control, climate change, evolution, abortion, etc. They are fucking evil and belong to another time.

You want a real American national crisis? Why don't they discuss the hundreds of children who have died in mass shootings in schools? That is a REAL humanitarian crisis.

The vote for Trump wasn't only about racism and wars. It was a vote against the way politicians have sold out voters.

This says it all.

I don't know if they're aware of their own ignorance or they just don't care but either way what they stand for makes the world a shittier place for all. It's more than obvious at this point that they think right wing dictators are a great thing and suppressing everyone except themselves is the way to go. They are people of hate, greed and selfishness who use Jesus to justify their bullshit.

You are OK with the fact that Donald Trump, President of the United States, is a liar?

Ok! Good point. This looks bad. But to be fair, it is a clean-up of inactive voter registration, not actual voters who may have voted for Hillary. And, dead voters can't vote.

This does not prove in any way that voter fraud created 3M more votes for Hillary.

Yes they do.

Lol! No fucking way Paul. If everyone was as lazy as you are on this subject you would be sucking Kim Un's dick by now.

Or the new opioid epidemic - fuelled by legally prescribed "medications".

:2 cents:

mm coincidentally after all those industrial accidents in china a few years back, fentanyl deaths skyrocket

nice try Megan Kelly....everyone knows it is cool if Seth Myers makes fun of dying people

unreal
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This is not 4D Chess, this is 5D Chess

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Its real simple, if this was a huuuuge crisis, why did the GOP when they had all three branches of Gov do nothing? In fact if this is as bad as he says, then its criminal that they did nothing for two years. This should have been job one instead of the tax break if it's so serious.

The truth is its not a crisis, its political theater to keep his shrinking base.

Shouldn't there be an international warning for tourists?, obviously America is not a safe country to visit, terrorists flooding in and an humanitarian emergency.. sounds more like Somalia

maybe travellers need to stay away and be warned, not a safe country.

It's astonishing that Trump's own voter fraud commission found no voter fraud in California, or any other states, yet morons like Robbie are so insecure about their leader not being popular that they chose to believe a disproven lie over the truth.

This is a perfect example of why I believe it should be illegal for elected officials to lie to the public. They are elected to serve US, not themselves!

How do you know when politicians are lying?

Their lips are moving.

Says the Brit who lives in Czechoslovakia and has never lived in America, let alone the South :1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bingo!!!