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Robbie 01-08-2019 05:11 PM

Mark Prince...do you post these political posts on a daily basis with "questions" just to watch people go crazy and fight with each other?
Serious question...

Lol...I KNOW you do! You are evil man...

Rochard 01-08-2019 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22393448)
The stupidity of this conversation is that EVERY DEMOCRAT POLITICIAN and President has been arguing for border security and stronger immigration controls but then did next to nothing about if after getting elected.

Now that someone is firmly fighting for border security, those same people who argued for decades FOR it are now arguing against it because "Orange Man Bad".

Everyone is for border security. However, border security is not the same as building a wall.

In 2006 there was a bipartisan bill called the Secure Fence act. Obama voted for it. The end result was over 600 miles of fencing between 18-26 feet. It cost something like $1.8 billion. The end result was.... It had a limited effect on stopping drug smuggling and illegal immigration.

This is why everyone is against this. You can build a fence or a wall but it's not going to stop people from going around it. The majority of illegal activity comes through ports of entry, and for the rest they go over it, under it, around it, or even through it.

Rochard 01-08-2019 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22393449)
Just 7 percent of Americans say illegal immigration 'not a problem' at all: Poll
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...al-immigratio/

Poll: 8-in-10 call illegal immigration a ‘problem,’ 58% say ‘serious’
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...58-say-serious

Your stats are misleading.

Fifty-eight percent of the population might say illegal immigration is a problem. However, that doesn't say anything about the solution. I am against illegal immigration, but I think $ billion for a wall is a waste of money. I would much rather see that money go to the border patrol....

J. Falcon 01-08-2019 05:30 PM

It's hilarious to listen to these braindead idiots defend Trump and his lies.

crockett 01-08-2019 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
My answer to that is Trump exaggerates all the time. I do it too. So do you.

Has Trump "lied" about anything that impacted our lives? Nope.


...and there you have it folks.. idiot at large...

Trump dindo nuffins wrong.. Obama..bad. mmmmmkay


Robbie is literally the guy in 1945 who would say but we thought it was all lies about the camps...

directfiesta 01-08-2019 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22393270)
billionaire= failed businessman

logiks

Bernie Maddoff was a billionnaire ... at least people thought so ....

CjTheFish 01-08-2019 06:33 PM

Almost MAGA time!

directfiesta 01-08-2019 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393417)
I can give you the Democrats "plan":
Say ANYTHING to win election.

That's all they care about is power.
And so do Republicans.

At least Trump doesn't give a fuck and just does what he says he would do.

True ... getting out of Syria now !!!!!!


:1orglaugh

crockett 01-08-2019 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22393504)
True ... getting out of Syria now !!!!!!


:1orglaugh

Don't forget repel & replace and Mexico will pay for the wall!! No lies no lies, no lies..


Robbie is example of years of right wing propaganda being perfected to stupefy the masses..

Rochard 01-08-2019 06:45 PM

I know what I'll be doing while Trump is spinning his lies...

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5CC84FC9

JesseQuinn 01-08-2019 06:47 PM

think lies will be a part of the message, he can't help it. I'm reticent to pathologize people but the orange man exhibits many characteristics of stuff that starts with narcissist and socio and ends in ic and path

I don't think he is capable of understanding what good governance for the people by the people, the 4th estate (apparently no one cares about this anymore so can't fault him here), ethics and integrity actually mean. how can he? I don't think his brain is wired for this. lying to him means nothing as nothing outside himself means anything to him.

who cares though, the label is not important while the future of your nation is

your system is fucked and people have lost faith. neither the jackass nor the elephant serves people. same machine.

to those who care, please glance away from the buffoon and get to work please.

I know it will take time



will take time I know

RedFred 01-08-2019 06:52 PM


Rochard 01-08-2019 07:09 PM

Oh my god... He opened with "we are running out of space". Like.... Lebensraum?

Holy fucking shit.

BaldBastard 01-08-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22392946)
I believe your about to get a history lesson on how the Third Reich's propaganda machine worked...

I'd also presume Robby, Onwebdork, AssPimp, Mattzz and gang have all hired a hotel together for a mass masturbation session ? BYO Mushrooms?

quotes myself after watching

meanwhile

300 killed this year in gun crime
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/ and its the beginning of week 2

RedFred 01-08-2019 07:12 PM

Wonder if that Adderall he sniffed up thats causing the sniffles came across the border. High as fuck talking about how bad drugs are.

Acepimp 01-08-2019 07:16 PM

He didn't lie.

King Mark 01-08-2019 07:18 PM

Trump is a fucking shit burger.

Idigmygirls 01-08-2019 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22393532)
He didn't lie.

He did lie.

King Mark 01-08-2019 07:25 PM

Well, if the workforce doesn't get their tax refund like the Whitehouse promised there might be a purge scenario lol.

Bladewire 01-08-2019 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22393527)
quotes myself after watching

Really missing oz the last 2 years .. so much more now

onwebcam 01-08-2019 08:18 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dwb6r4gX4AAc_aU.jpg

onwebcam 01-08-2019 08:19 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwcBT9pVAAA5UGp.jpg:large

Rochard 01-08-2019 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22393532)
He didn't lie.

He lied. He said we have a border crisis. We do not. In fact, immigration continues to drop.

tony286 01-08-2019 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22393313)
Robbie is another lying idiot. He used to post endlessly about how he was a independent who wanted to hold the govt accountable.. (he used to whine endlessly about Obama day in and out here on gfy)

I used to call him out all the time saying he was full of shit and just blamed Obama for everything.

He used to blame Obama for the Republicans in Congress doing nothing saying it showed Obama was a bad leader..


Soon as Trump was elected no more worries from Robbie about govt accountability and everything is still Democrats and the evil liberal media fault..

Now When Republicans in Congress still did nothing, it's not because Trump is a bad leader its Democrats and the media fault..


Robbie is full of shit and would be on welfare of not for his wife.. He'd be getting paid $10/hr as a bar bouncer if not for his wife..

Politically I dont agree with Robbie at all. It seemed to me,He got politically strange after the crash but without question he is a very hard worker and a very talented musican. If it wasnt porn he would be doing something else andI doing whatever it is pretty well.

tony286 01-08-2019 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22393576)
He lied. He said we have a border crisis. We do not. In fact, immigration continues to drop.

He said the past presidents want him to do this. And they all said they said nothing to him. Lol

Rochard 01-08-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22393582)
Politically I dont agree with Robbie at all. It seemed to me,He got politically strange after the crash but without question he is a very hard worker and a very talented musican. If it wasnt porn he would be doing something else andI doing whatever it is pretty well.

I personally like Robbie. We've hung out a handful of times in Vegas.

One thing we both agree on is what we think of the current state of news shows on TV. They no longer report the news, but instead debate it.

But he is a full on Trump supporter. He told us here on GFY that Trump lies and he is perfectly okay with it. Lying is never okay.

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22393388)
Question for you; Do you think Obama has lied at all when in office? Even once? Serious question.

First, Yes.

Second, why are you changing the subject? Come on, accept the challenge. Has Trump said something that you know he has lied about?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
My answer to that is Trump exaggerates all the time. I do it too. So do you.

Maybe, but I wasn't asking about exaggeration. But since you bring it up, the president is the president. Everything he says and does is important. Maybe he shouldn't exaggerate? Should't the true facts be enough for any situation?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
Has Trump "lied" about anything that impacted our lives? Nope.

Well, yes and no.

Let's take something pointless like the size of the inauguration. Of course it doesn't matter to me or you or anyone else, including Trump. It should not matter to Trump. But it seems to, and he made a big deal lying about it.

I, like you, would have just ignored it, but he kept insisting it was the biggest crowd ever. Did that make you wonder about what else he would lie about? It did me.

Now lets talk about something alot more serious. He said Hillary Clinton won the popular vote because of Fraud. Do you not think this is a dangerous thing to say? Does it not undermine the entire democratic voting process, and worry about about the transition of power in 2020 or 2024 when Trump will be replaced?

The peaceful transition of power has been a staple of the US for a long time. No one has ever questioned it or made people question it before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
When Pres. Clinton and ....

Forget what others did. Clinton lied, Bush lied, etc. Should someone elses past actions make it OK for Trump to do the same?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
No Mark... you can keep calling these "honest questions"...but you already know everything I just said, so you are instead trying to frame things in a manner that fits a narrative.

No, I promise you that is not what I am trying to do. What I am trying to do is focus on single points.

What alot of people do on GFY is say "Yeah well what about Clinton this and Bengazzi that", etc. This is called "whatbaoutism" and doesn't do anything but cloud the issue. If you went to the bank to get a lone and they asked what your income was last year and you answered "Well my Neighbour made a million dollars", it doesn't answer the question, right?

Sometimes as you suggest, questions are "framed". I am trying to avoid that. I just want to know that as a defender of Trump, do you think or feel or know if he has lied to you. Flat-out lied. Thats all...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393413)
How the fuck can Pelosi and Shumer and Anderson Cooper know better than the actual BORDER PATROL???

Here's the answer: Because they are elitists and think they are smarter than everyone else.

Well, Pelosi and Shumer are government officials, and Anderson Cooper is a reporter, so they could know. And, Don't forget that a host on Fox News also called Sarah Huckabee Sanders out on the same thing.

Peace Brotha!

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393414)
They spent the last 2 days on CNN pressuring the networks to NOT cover the President's address. Or did you miss that too?

CNN pressured networks not to cover the presidential address? That seems odd. How do you know this? I watch CNN and MSNBC (Surprise, I know!) and I didn't see any mention of that. In fact, all they seemed to talk about was that this was Trump's first time doing it, and had little countdown clocks up to the event. I really did not see what you are talking about. Share a link?

Robbie 01-08-2019 10:02 PM

No, I think Hillary won the popular vote because of voter fraud in California.
Hell, I've thought that about most every Presidential election as far as the California vote goes.

And as far as past lies...Mark, I clearly pointed out that Pres. Clinton, Bush, and Obama told lies in which people DIED as a result.
Trump has not done that. Exaggerating on how "Great" something is doesn't kill people.

And no...you are not trying to "focus" on anything. lol
You know damn well that you are simply starting fights.

And for Christ's sake man...look at some of the people who are in agreement with you on GFY.
It ain't exactly a group of geniuses. lol

And again...NOBODY would know better than the actual Border Patrol agents.
In the recent White House meetings Pelosi and Shumer REFUSED to let the Homeland Security Secretary give her report via satellite from the border.

On the third meeting when she was finally allowed to speak without Pelosi interrupting her...Pelosi flat told her that she just doesn't "believe" what the border patrol is saying.

Dude, it's all politics.

The Democrat Party has ALWAYS been against illegal immigration and voted for walls many times.
But now?
Now that Trump wants the same thing...they are suddenly diametrically opposed.

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393462)
Mark Prince...do you post these political posts on a daily basis with "questions" just to watch people go crazy and fight with each other?
Serious question...

Lol...I KNOW you do! You are evil man...

Not exactly. I like to get involved with the fight. I have my opinions, and I'm anti-trump as the title of this thread suggests. It's also a fascinating topic and I have no idea how I made American politics a hobby.

But no, I'm not evil. Like you, I want whats right. A safe planet, healthy food, clean air and water, a few toys, great music, hot chicks, etc etc.

Peace.

onwebcam 01-08-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22393594)
CNN pressured networks not to cover the presidential address? That seems odd. How do you know this? I watch CNN and MSNBC (Surprise, I know!) and I didn't see any mention of that. In fact, all they seemed to talk about was that this was Trump's first time doing it, and had little countdown clocks up to the event. I really did not see what you are talking about. Share a link?

For the last 24 hours that's all they've been talking about online.. "Why should we give him airtime?"

Robbie 01-08-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22393594)
CNN pressured networks not to cover the presidential address? That seems odd. How do you know this? I watch CNN and MSNBC (Surprise, I know!) and I didn't see any mention of that. In fact, all they seemed to talk about was that this was Trump's first time doing it, and had little countdown clocks up to the event. I really did not see what you are talking about. Share a link?

I watched CNN spend 2 days saying over and over that the networks "might not" cover the President because of his "lies".

It was a CONSTANT barrage. So if you were watching you couldn't have missed it.

Robbie 01-08-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22393600)
For the last 24 hours that's all they've been talking about online.. "Why should we give him airtime?"

Maybe Mark sees an international version of CNN?

Robbie 01-08-2019 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22393599)
Not exactly. I like to get involved with the fight. I have my opinions, and I'm anti-trump as the title of this thread suggests. It's also a fascinating topic and I have no idea how I made American politics a hobby.

But no, I'm not evil. Like you, I want whats right. A safe planet, healthy food, clean air and water, a few toys, great music, hot chicks, etc etc.

Peace.

This is all just more of your evil-ness as you try to lure me into a false sense of security... :1orglaugh

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22393508)
I know what I'll be doing while Trump is spinning his lies...

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5CC84FC9

Honestly, I'd rather watch Trump. No disrespect to Stormy, but what Trump is talking about and doing shouldn't be ignored.

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22393563)

The little girls in that photo were murdered by a psychopath. Are you implying that Shumer and Pelosi are going to be murdered by Trump because he's a psychopath? Thats kind of a stretch, but...

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22393600)
For the last 24 hours that's all they've been talking about online.. "Why should we give him airtime?"

Robbie think about what you just said.

First you said "CNN Pressured Networks NOT to cover the Presidents Address" as if they are making statements to other channels.

Now you have changed it to Talking about the subect of "Why should we give him air airtime"?

That is a pretty big difference.

And If I google the term "Did CNN say they might not cover the presidential address?" I get this:

https://www.2much.net/gfy/ss1.png

Some of the items are 2 and 3 days old. Sorry bud but I see no evidence that CNN pressured anyone.

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22393600)
For the last 24 hours that's all they've been talking about online.. "Why should we give him airtime?"

Yes. That is a fair statement. The networks were talking about it. This isn't CNN telling others not to air it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22393604)
This is all just more of your evil-ness as you try to lure me into a false sense of security... :1orglaugh

No dude. I want to go drinking with you one day and I don't want you to hit over the head with your beer. So any sense of security you feel coming from me is genuine, I promise. :D

Anyway, I'm done for the night. Goodnight!

DraX 01-08-2019 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22393588)
I personally like Robbie. We've hung out a handful of times in Vegas.

One thing we both agree on is what we think of the current state of news shows on TV. They no longer report the news, but instead debate it.

But he is a full on Trump supporter. He told us here on GFY that Trump lies and he is perfectly okay with it. Lying is never okay.

There's so much lying going on in all layers of society, you should be completely stuffed by now unless you believe Trump is the only liar at the court.

Trump is the lesser evil and what you don't realize is that Obama and Clinton are trained liars, professionals. Perhabs you're fine with that just like I and others are with Trump.

Phoenix 01-08-2019 10:38 PM

Well at least they corrected him on some numbers tonight


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