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crockett 05-17-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22471349)
No, not at all.

The US has dropped nukes and that is terrible, but we did it against a country we were actively at war with and we warned them beforehand. That is not dismissing it, just making statements for the record. I am worried that a country run by religious fanatics that think if they kill non-Muslims they will be rewarded with a harem of virgins in the afterlife will make a nuke, put it on a ship, sail it into a major US port and detonate it.

If we didn't drop the 1st Nukes in Japan they would have been dropped somewhere by someone..

The simple fact is the firebombing of Japan did far more death and destruction than the 2 nukes did. Fire bombing/ carpet bombing cities ect was standard practice by all militaries during WW2.

The only reason Nukes are made a big deal is because it was the 1st time and it only took 1 airplane where as previously the same damage could be done, but only with many bombers and bombs..


US dropping Nukes is what made all civilized nations agree to not bomb civilians anymore. With out nukes everyone would still do what Assad and Russia did to Syria or what Saudis are doing in Yemen or what Israel does to Palestine.

If you notice, since WW2 no nation that took part in WW2 has directly targeted civilians as a war tactic except Russia.. Yes there is always some civilan deaths and buildings hit, but no one but Russia still actively targets civilians..

Israel & the Saudis didn't sign any treaties.. Russia did but they violate it..

crockett 05-17-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Idigmygirls (Post 22470202)
I wrote an essay in the lead up to the Iraq war in which I made the case that the war had already been won. Saddam had allowed UN weapon's inspectors into the country, and I said that the UN should send 5,000 such "inspectors" in. No shots fired, just have UN inspectors crawl all over the country, and Iraq would have been incapable of threatening anyone with WMD.

But of course, the war wasn't at all about WMD, and we all know what went down...


Well to be fair Iraq was playing games with the UN inspectors but they didnt have WMD which was obvious b4 and after the war..

crockett 05-17-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22470203)
Wow, crockett claiming that I said anything to him about the war in Iraq.

Crockett...can you please find the posts where I told you that you hated "Merica" over the Iraq war?
No?

That's because you are human garbage and spend your homeless days in your van parked near wi-fi to sit on what used to be an adult business board and live out your delusions.

In other words: You're a liar...and fuck you. :)



Robbie are you now the same as vendilldo who thinks everything someone says is in reply to him?

Did I quote you in my reply... I realize you think the world revolves around you but not everything is about you...

VRPdommy 05-17-2019 08:21 PM

If we were not the first to drop the first nuke, we probably would never have realized how horrible they are/were.
It was a learning lesson for us and the rest of the wold should take note of our ignorance as we have.
Talk is cheap.

Bladewire 05-17-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22470203)

That's because you are human garbage and spend your homeless days in your van parked near wi-fi to sit on what used to be an adult business board and live out your delusions.

In other words: You're a liar...and fuck you. :)

You're lying again.

Crocket hasn't lived in his van for almost a year.

You should stop lying about people. We know you're angry but it's now our fault your money maker is getting old & your income is flat. GET A JOB! Support yourself. It's not your woman's job to pay your debts. It's not her fault that your credit is fucked.

VRPdommy 05-18-2019 06:29 AM

Watch it all ! 7m


VRPdommy 05-18-2019 09:42 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...n-war-n1007281

"
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump may not need Congress to go to war with Iran.

That's the case his lieutenants have been quietly building as tensions between the two nations have escalated.

The key elements involve drawing links between al Qaeda and Iran and casting Iran as a terrorist threat to the U.S. — which is exactly what administration officials have been doing in recent weeks.

That could give Trump the justification he needs to fight Iran under the still-in-effect 2001 use-of-force resolution without congressional approval.
"

It is time for the senate to act !

Robbie 05-18-2019 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22471660)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...n-war-n1007281

"
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump may not need Congress to go to war with Iran.

That's the case his lieutenants have been quietly building as tensions between the two nations have escalated.

The key elements involve drawing links between al Qaeda and Iran and casting Iran as a terrorist threat to the U.S. — which is exactly what administration officials have been doing in recent weeks.

That could give Trump the justification he needs to fight Iran under the still-in-effect 2001 use-of-force resolution without congressional approval.
"

It is time for the senate to act !

No surprise there. President's have put us in several wars since WW2 without Congress declaring war.

I mean it's NICE for the Senate to give their "blessing", but with the laws that Congress itself passed handing over a ton of their responsibilities to the Executive Branch...no President has needed Congress to send troops in anywhere in decades.

It's way too late to do anything about the tensions in Iran. BUT...the House and Senate should immediately repeal the laws that they passed giving this power to the Executive Branch.

We basically have the House and Senate full of lifetime power-hungry bureaucrats who don't want to do ANYTHING. Instead of looking at decisions based on what's good for the country, they are too busy weighing each vote to determine if it's good for their careers. :(

pimpmaster9000 05-18-2019 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22471349)
No, not at all.

The US has dropped nukes and that is terrible, but we did it against a country we were actively at war with and we warned them beforehand. That is not dismissing it, just making statements for the record. I am worried that a country run by religious fanatics that think if they kill non-Muslims they will be rewarded with a harem of virgins in the afterlife will make a nuke, put it on a ship, sail it into a major US port and detonate it.

Well yes that is what you get when you push countries in to war...the moderates get silenced by your bombs and the nutjobs come to power...many people in the middle east know nothing but war and sanctions from the west....you can hardly blame them for being forced to nuke up considering that the USA will never leave them alone...

kane 05-18-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22471820)
Well yes that is what you get when you push countries in to war...the moderates get silenced by your bombs and the nutjobs come to power...many people in the middle east know nothing but war and sanctions from the west....you can hardly blame them for being forced to nuke up considering that the USA will never leave them alone...

The Middle East has known nothing but violence and unrest since the beginning of recorded history. Those who live their need to get their shit together before they start pointing fingers.

Yes, our presence there and our influence hasn't helped, but the problems there existed long before we ever arrived.

For starters, most of them are part of a religion that seems like it is a couple hundred years behind the rest of the developed world. You can't expect to rationalize with fanatics. It just doesn't work that way.

If the US completely pulled out of the Middle East and even abandoned our support of Israel, those Middle Eastern countries would just go back to hating and fighting each other.

kane 05-18-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22471755)
No surprise there. President's have put us in several wars since WW2 without Congress declaring war.

I mean it's NICE for the Senate to give their "blessing", but with the laws that Congress itself passed handing over a ton of their responsibilities to the Executive Branch...no President has needed Congress to send troops in anywhere in decades.

It's way too late to do anything about the tensions in Iran. BUT...the House and Senate should immediately repeal the laws that they passed giving this power to the Executive Branch.

We basically have the House and Senate full of lifetime power-hungry bureaucrats who don't want to do ANYTHING. Instead of looking at decisions based on what's good for the country, they are too busy weighing each vote to determine if it's good for their careers. :(

So true. :thumbsup

directfiesta 05-18-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22471351)
If we didn't drop the 1st Nukes in Japan they would have been dropped somewhere by someone..

The simple fact is the firebombing of Japan did far more death and destruction than the 2 nukes did. Fire bombing/ carpet bombing cities ect was standard practice by all militaries during WW2.

The only reason Nukes are made a big deal is because it was the 1st time and it only took 1 airplane where as previously the same damage could be done, but only with many bombers and bombs..


US dropping Nukes is what made all civilized nations agree to not bomb civilians anymore. With out nukes everyone would still do what Assad and Russia did to Syria or what Saudis are doing in Yemen or what Israel does to Palestine.

If you notice, since WW2 no nation that took part in WW2 has directly targeted civilians as a war tactic except Russia.. Yes there is always some civilan deaths and buildings hit, but no one but Russia still actively targets civilians..

Israel & the Saudis didn't sign any treaties.. Russia did but they violate it..

how many irakis & afghans has the US killed ?
How about Vietnam ????

klinton 05-18-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22471351)
US dropping Nukes is what made all civilized nations agree to not bomb civilians anymore. With out nukes everyone would still do what Assad and Russia did to Syria or what Saudis are doing in Yemen or what Israel does to Palestine.

If you notice, since WW2 no nation that took part in WW2 has directly targeted civilians as a war tactic except Russia.. Yes there is always some civilan deaths and buildings hit, but no one but Russia still actively targets civilians..

Israel & the Saudis didn't sign any treaties.. Russia did but they violate it..

wtf u talk about :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Germans been also saying that they it was all part of military operation, yet they did commit genocide on Poles, Russians and other Slavs...

same with Iraq, Vietnam...

pimpmaster9000 05-19-2019 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22471823)
The Middle East has known nothing but violence and unrest since the beginning of recorded history. Those who live their need to get their shit together before they start pointing fingers.

Yes, our presence there and our influence hasn't helped, but the problems there existed long before we ever arrived.

every region in the world has known nothing but violence and unrest since the beginning of recorder history...especially the regions where white people live...white people are by faaaar the most aggressive species of homo sapiens...

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22471823)

For starters, most of them are part of a religion that seems like it is a couple hundred years behind the rest of the developed world. You can't expect to rationalize with fanatics. It just doesn't work that way.

are you talking about american nationalism or radical islam? I see no difference except that radical islam kills much much less people than americans...

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22471823)
If the US completely pulled out of the Middle East and even abandoned our support of Israel, those Middle Eastern countries would just go back to hating and fighting each other.

no you guys just start shit and sell weapons...

pimpmaster9000 05-19-2019 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22471351)
If you notice, since WW2 no nation that took part in WW2 has directly targeted civilians as a war tactic except Russia.. Yes there is always some civilan deaths and buildings hit, but no one but Russia still actively targets civilians..
.

sure you do the USA targets exclusively civilians...when you gangster mother fuckers invade, civilians get force drafted...the armies of the countries defending themselves against invader mother fuckers consist exclusively of civilians...the fact that they put on a uniform to keep gangsters away, does not legitimize their murder in any way...any country would do the same, especially the USA

conclusion: the USA targets exclusively civilians...1 million dead just in iraq...all civilians...

Paul Markham 05-19-2019 03:20 AM

I'm currently watching The Vietnam War and it's fascinating.

It's revealing how Americans were sent to die to save political ideals, egos and careers. It also reveals how bad the whole thing was created, led and carried out. How mistakes were made by politicians right down to the men on the ground.

Jumping forward 50 years I see the same mistakes made by other politicians, on both sides of the political divide.

thommy 05-19-2019 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22471912)
I'm currently watching The Vietnam War and it's fascinating.

It's revealing how Americans were sent to die to save political ideals, egos and careers. It also reveals how bad the whole thing was created, led and carried out. How mistakes were made by politicians right down to the men on the ground.

Jumping forward 50 years I see the same mistakes made by other politicians, on both sides of the political divide.

the much funnier part of vietnam's history is that it is precisely this "communist danger to the world" and the united states that are engaged in peaceful trade today. and that WITHOUT the united states exerting any pressure on it.

so there was no such thing as a monster for which so many americans had to give their lives to fight.

but let's have a look at the "won" wars like lybia, afganistan, iraq etc.... there is no trade - today there is only terror and blood.

america's strategy has failed all along the line and the only visible result is that no country in the world has more debts than the USA.

and now the usa is trying to fight this problem with the same mistakes as always. the CAN't go well

Grapesoda 05-19-2019 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22469481)
At least 4 tankers were hit with explosives yesterday while anchored near a port in United Arab Emirates. Looking at the pictures the damage was not enough to sink any of the ships and quite honestly was not enough damage to be a state sponsored hit..

It's obvious low end terrorist cell as Iran or any serious threat could have done much more damage.. That didn't stop Trump from blaming Iran before the smoke settled...


Trump is pounding the war drums trying to do anything for a distraction from him being outted as a business failure and a traitor...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-ne...es-2019-05-14/


Best pictures and video so far are on aljazeera

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...105033539.html

darn obviously you understand the middle east much better than the President, I wish you were president :(

Idigmygirls 05-19-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22471882)
sure you do the USA targets exclusively civilians...when you gangster mother fuckers invade, civilians get force drafted...the armies of the countries defending themselves against invader mother fuckers consist exclusively of civilians...the fact that they put on a uniform to keep gangsters away, does not legitimize their murder in any way...any country would do the same, especially the USA

conclusion: the USA targets exclusively civilians...1 million dead just in iraq...all civilians...

Very astute observation. It's nice to get a perspective that I haven't heard/considered before; particularly this (edited) quote: "the armies of the countries defending themselves against invader(s) ... consist exclusively of civilians...the fact that they put on a uniform to keep gangsters away, does not legitimize their murder in any way..."

And for everyone that thinks the USA is always right, I suggest that a wonderful way to test your belief system is to watch the Oliver Stone documentary series "The Untold History of the United States." It's a very balanced and objective (and fascinating) series that will give anyone that isn't too far gone in the propaganda and brainwashing a LOT to think about.

RycEric 05-19-2019 03:17 PM

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...=mw_latestnews

Paul Markham 05-20-2019 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22471927)
the much funnier part of vietnam's history is that it is precisely this "communist danger to the world" and the united states that are engaged in peaceful trade today. and that WITHOUT the united states exerting any pressure on it.

so there was no such thing as a monster for which so many americans had to give their lives to fight.

but let's have a look at the "won" wars like lybia, afganistan, iraq etc.... there is no trade - today there is only terror and blood.

america's strategy has failed all along the line and the only visible result is that no country in the world has more debts than the USA.

and now the usa is trying to fight this problem with the same mistakes as always. the CAN't go well

We agree on something. So far all Trump has done is warn off Iran, so let's not go overboard.


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