It goes up because the whales don't want it to collapse to nothing before they've dumped everything, slowing down enough for the "best time to buy" and "cheap coins" patsies to blow more of their life savings pushing the price up, so they can dump into it again.

In the last ten years Bitcoin has gone from $1 to $29 to $2 to $1200 to $111 to $19k to $3k to $63k. That's all it does, up and down. Some people can't accept the down part though.

$29 > $2 = 93% drop.
$1200 > $111 = 90% drop.
$19k > $3k = 84% drop.

An 80% drop this time, from the ATH of $63k, means a $12k low point, probably settling around $15-$19k for the next few years (a mere 70-75% drop).

So anyone who recently bought bitcoin and HODLd, while the people shouting "HODL!" were bailing out, well, like the bag holders every other time this always happens, have to either cut their losses before it reverts to late 2020 levels, or hope in 2024 the government still hasn't regulated crypto and things go nuts again.

If you do the latter, I'd suggest converting the bitcoin you have into something like XRP, which has a potential future, practical use case, none of the world killing issues that even oligarchs pretend to care about these days, and is priced low enough to multiply nicely.

And those telling other people this worst time to buy is the best time to buy: how much have you bought?

We always hear the same old same old when BTC goes down. It's repetitive, tiresome and predictable.
Then it goes back up and we hear the whining about a missed opportunity. You know if most of you knew anything about Bitcoin but what you read about at CNN or Fox, you might understand just how sophisticated it has become, but you keep parroting crap from 5 years ago. Get yourself some goddamn knowledge about it or shut the fuck up. There's a shitpot of coins out there, but is there a Bitcoin killer? Not hardly.

Musk was jealous when Zuck say Bitcoin is my goat, so he try kill Bitcoin. All the investors goes down.

So true, the FUDsters stick to the same topics, China, energy, speed, fee

FUDsters are incentivized financially (thru shorts or nocoining) to staying ignorant about Bitcoin & green energy, China's irrelevancy, speed/fee is instant/free with LightningNetwork etc etc

So yeah, those of us who read through their bullshits are rewarded in the long term :thumbsup

blockchain.com/btc/unconfirmed-transactions

Why are all these people paying between $5-$12 in transaction fees instead of just using the free and instant Lightning Network?

They probably either don't know or lazy :2 cents:

edit: remember, Bitcoin is decentralized, there's no marketing team who're paid to market it or spread adoption, unlike centralized cryptos like your Ripple/Xrp

Sounds like an irresponsible advice to give. Ppl in crypto generally seek some sort of decentralized asset, unlike XRP/Ripple which is like Paypal, maybe even more centralized. Hope you don't convince too many of your shits :disgust

Of course, everyone is lazy or clueless except you. What you mean is you don't know.

LOL The reason I and everyone else heard about bitcoin a decade ago is because people were financially incentivized to promote it, as that's how the price went up and they could cash out at more than they bought in at.

That's how bitcoin and every other coin has worked ever since. Except these days you need a Twitter or TikTok with millions of followers instead of just spamming forums.

Everyone already knows this, including you, so I don't know who you are trying to kid here, except yourself.

This from an investment genius who urged people "now is the time to buy", while believing it will "probably go down".

Paypal has been one of the most popular payment systems for 20 years, even with all its problems. That alone should be a clue how much people care about decentralization.

Another clue is that most decentralized cryptocurrencies, hundreds or thousands of them, are not used by anyone at all. Zero.

Another clue is that XRP has been in the Coinmarketcap top 10 since 2014.

I avoid them like a plague.

A year ago some Bitcoin whale moved $1.1 billion of BTC from one address to another for $83 bucks. I guess he must have some knowledge yes?

The rest of your bullshit is just that, bullshit. Get yourself some knowledge before you embarrass yourself here again.

He might have moved 1.1 billion for 83 bucks but a few months ago I wanted to send the equiv of 15 cents of BTC. Cost- $5+

Tell me about lightning again.

My friend predicts that by autumn it will drop to 10k, and then it will go to 100k

@ZTT too late to edit your post now... you marked for life as a damn fool. Get your juggle balls and get to work :jester

I hope your friend is right so we can buy at the lowest :thumbsup

Its globally popular so it wont go down so easy

Tell me again, how bright you are?

Hit me up anytime i can teach you how to use Lightning. I've said this for a very long time, and never once been contacted about it.

And sending 15cents via BTC seems ridiculous thing to do. Have you ever heard of someone sending 15cents of gold bullion? :upsidedow

I've been running a Bitcoin Lightning node for over a year or so. Yesterday I found out I'd made more money than I thought. Nice.

Sent you a message.

Bright enough not to steal.

I don't like them much either, but that's because they're a shit company with shit practices, not because it's centralized, and their 300+ million other users don't care about that either. What matters to most people is convenience and low expense.

What do you think people moving millions, never mind billions, through the banking system are paying in fees?

You're being contacted about it here, so why don't you just post what you know about it here?

You may want to sit down for this, but gold bullion is not an online payment system, let alone one lauded by its fanatical believers as the currency of the future.

@ZTT, So you obviously don't know how Bitcoin works, every public address is traceable, if posting in public, like here. Anyone can view balance and all transactions of that address & I choose to not expose my addresses in public, especially not on GFY.

I can help people get their feet wet with Lightning Network in private, first have a Kraken, Bitfinex or Okex exchange account and WalletOfSatoshi, Strike or BlueWallet app installed. I can show you the way to using Bitcoin for free/instant.

And thanks for making a case for why Bitcoin is better than Gold for SoV. Bitcoin is digital gold and can also be used for digital payments on-chain for reasonable/cheap/fast or 2nd layer with Lightning/Liquid for free/instant.

Centralized systems like Paypal can be shut down or controlled, same like egold, Xrp, UnikoinGold.

Are you accusing me of stealing? Yes or no? Asshat.

he was banned

He'll be back soon . . .

Probably too soon. It doesn't take much to see that he is a poser, probably a surfer that stumbled into this forum. His shit doesn't add up.

Imo it will again slide down to $10k level

If you truly believe that and you're not shorting it.... then you're lying in to yourself, and in your post :2 cents:

Nobody asked you to post your bitcoin address, and I seriously doubt anyone gives a rat's ass how many satoshis you own or which online store you buy your dildos from.

You're simply avoiding the question again, because all you actually know about "lightning network" is it's the fake solution you have to repeat whenever anyone mentions bitcoin fees and 'speed'

All you're doing here is spamming affiliate links to centralized bitcoin exchanges, which shows even you don't believe what you're posting (decentralization uber alles). And if someone has their bitcoin on an exchange, they'd have to be insane and/or value their time at absolutely nothing to waste half a day trying to figure out some kludge on top of bitcoin instead of just taking two seconds to convert to a cheaper, faster coin.

Here's the recent experience of someone who has actually used LN, unlike you:

twitter.com/ercwl/status/1376286470256873475

Short version:

4.8% fee ... 12 payment attempts FAILED ... probably work fine in 5-10 minutes ... at least I only got one error this time ... that didn't work either ... need to pay some onchain fees ... wait for a few blocks ... payment isn't coming through ... What's with these fees? $9 fee for a $119 payment not enough on LN? ... Failed ... off-chain fee ... needed to pay so much [fees] ... only ~86% was sendable ($110 of $127) ... this error took 6 min ... can't set manual fees ... gets stuck waiting ... unfortunately it failed

This kind of fiasco would certainly explain why, after years of promotion of LN, most bitcoin users are still opting to make normal bitcoin transactions, where at most you fill out a form, press send and get on with your life.

As can bitcoin exchanges, online wallets, mining farms and any bank, business, organization or individual even remotely dealing in bitcoin. And you've already established, above, you give zero genuine fucks about centralization anyway.

Just bought more at 50% of the value of my last buy.

WooHoo wild west good times rolling!!

Nice buy, did the same with both btc & ada

It's pretty evident you know absolutely nothing. Just another cherry picker trying to sound relevant. You've missed the point because you have no idea of the point. Bitcoin is just a convenient target for you. Your arguments are soporific, tiresome, and irrelevant. You'd like whoever reads your rant to think you have some knowledge, but it's apparent to all you do not. You should probably try to stick to something you know. It shouldn't be to hard because you don't seem to know much.

Ya ruff, he's really trying hard to act like he knows what he's talking about. I wonder if he's ever used Bitcoin or he's just Googling to find what problems he can.

I planned to show anyone hands-on usage, by that they need to give me an address and I'd be revealing my own, if you learned crypto basics you should know this. My offer stands to anyone serious about learning to use Lightning, don't be swayed by trash like ZTT, he's probably hired by Ripples marketing lol

As for my dildo purchases, nuttin but the best, bigblackdildos.com :winkwink:

Reminder to all, you never want to expose your information unnecessarily to public forums, there are trolls, scammers, or attackers like ZTT. Nothing good comes from it.

https://i.postimg.cc/HWQ9m9Nr/190435...69129213-n.jpg

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

feel free to donate me few cents tether so I can buy the dip :Oh crap:Oh crap I'm market victim
TFaErLQM3PdePPSukBAZy9MgfwZKMFxbDR
(tron network address)

All in and committed.

Anyone know a place to buy bitcoin with Paxum?

I almost feel bad about this, since it's now apparent that you've spent years posting utter crap here and nobody has bothered wasting their time correcting you until now, and now faced with facts, you have no idea how to deal with it except haplessly yell "scammer!" and "attacker!". :1orglaugh

If you knew anything about LN you wouldn't be claiming someone needs you or your bitcoin address or a centralized exchange to use it.

In fact even someone with just the "crypto basics" knows one of worst things you can possibly do with your coins is unnecessarily transfer them to a third party service like an exchange - aka not your keys, not your coins.

You know even less about keys/encryption than you do about LN or decentralization though.

You claim you can't expose your bitcoin address because you think you can only have one address, because you keep your satoshis on an exchange that only gives you one address.

If you knew even "crypto basics" you'd know you can create a virtually unlimited number of addresses, none of which has any connection to your big black dildo purchases, and far from there being "nothing good" coming from exposing your address, as you claim, the entire point of an address is that it's publicly shareable, to receive money. (In fact, just a few posts after yours is a prime example of this, from gtsix.)

The LOL thing about this paranoid delusional stupidity (which you actually genuinely believe) is it's not even one of the Top 10 dumbest things you've posted in this thread.

Reminder to you: other people can read, even if you can't. Nobody asked for or cares about your bitcoin address, or the 75 cents of satoshis it contains, and the more you scream about having to keep secret something nobody but you has ever mentioned, the more sad and ridiculous it becomes.

I would love to see you explain (aka avoid, as usual) how a bitcoin address can be "scammed" or "attacked" simply by being posted publicly though.

To help you out, here's a list of publicly known addresses that contain billions of dollars in bitcoin:

bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

I guess the only sane and plausible explanation for why they haven't been "scammed" or "attacked" is that the only address anyone cares about is yours. :upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

Are you that stupid, really? Attach an identity to a richest address is inviting attack at many level lol

This guy is beyond retarded

.....and he typed all that lollollol

Imagine being able to type. What a retard. lolololololololol