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RycEric 03-16-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22833552)
Eric could you give us some ballpark figures to get this information? And what would be the next step once you've obtained it if they are not based in the US?

$800 turnkey and we'll handle all the admin/docs work. Also, the subpoena is issued by a lawyer and this includes the federal court's filing fee. It also includes any third-party correspondence.. which is not typical if you know the law firm route (hourly :Oh crap ).
The big thing here is there is no retainer and no lawsuit.

I'll PM you on the next step. :2 cents:

RycEric 03-16-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833462)
Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.

Very close but this isn't a traditional C&D. I find these much more effective. I actually did one, out of my own pocket, last year because a cam ripping site was blackmailing cam models and them blaming the client. He's gone now and so is his site. He's in Europe... Germany to be specific.

SpicyM 03-16-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833619)
Very close but this isn't a traditional C&D. I find these much more effective. I actually did one, out of my own pocket, last year because a cam ripping site was blackmailing cam models and them blaming the client. He's gone now and so is his site. He's in Europe... Germany to be specific.

:thumbsup

Did the hosting company close his account or did he simply get scared and deleted his website?

OneHungLo 03-16-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833616)
$800 turnkey and we'll handle all the admin/docs work. Also, the subpoena is issued by a lawyer and this includes the federal court's filing fee. It also includes any third-party correspondence.. which is not typical if you know the law firm route (hourly :Oh crap ).
The big thing here is there is no retainer and no lawsuit.

I'll PM you on the next step. :2 cents:

Thanks for the info.

RycEric 03-16-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833624)
:thumbsup

Did the hosting company close his account or did he simply get scared and deleted his website?

Opsec for public. PM ;)

SpicyM 03-17-2021 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833689)
Opsec for public. PM ;)

Done :winkwink:

celandina 03-17-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833456)
In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free :winkwink:

Nonsense, just look on all the Dutch servers hosting this shit. Never mind those further East.

celandina 03-17-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833462)
Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Funny boy :2 cents:

RycEric 03-17-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833853)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Funny boy :2 cents:

You don't seem to understand, however, that's not an issue.. for me anyways.

SpicyM 03-17-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833852)
Nonsense, just look on all the Dutch servers hosting this shit. Never mind those further East.

And that means what? Hosting companies don't control content hosted on their servers. Also, almost all of these thieves use CloudFlare and CF won't reveal any details about their clients unless confronted with authorities or lawyers.

In Czechia, pirates can face 3 - 8 years in prison in the worst cases.

Here is an English translation (Google translate) of the law:

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§ 270 Infringement of copyright, rights related to copyright and rights to the database

(1) Whoever unjustifiably interferes not slightly with the legally protected rights to a copyright, work of art, sound or audio-visual recording, radio or television broadcast or database, shall be punished by imprisonment for up to two years, prohibition of activity or forfeiture of property.

(2) The offender shall be punished by imprisonment for six months to five years, a fine or forfeiture of the thing,

(a) where the act referred to in paragraph 1 shows signs of a commercial or other business,

(b) if, by doing so, he obtains significant gain for himself or for another, or if he thereby causes significant harm to another, or

(c) if he commits such an act to a significant extent.

(3) The offender shall be punished by imprisonment for three to eight years,

(a) if, by the act referred to in paragraph 1, he obtains, for himself or for another benefit, a large-scale benefit or thereby causes large-scale damage to another, or

(b) if he commits such an act on a large scale.

The police is obliged to act when you file a complaint. I don't think a reputable hosting company will be happy that they offer services to a Russian client who is being investigated for a crime ... which could make them liable too if they ignore that. Just show them a copy of the criminal complaint and I am sure they will act promptly.

celandina 03-18-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833953)
And that means what? Hosting companies don't control content hosted on their servers. Also, almost all of these thieves use CloudFlare and CF won't reveal any details about their clients unless confronted with authorities or lawyers.

In Czechia, pirates can face 3 - 8 years in prison in the worst cases.

Here is an English translation (Google translate) of the law:




The police is obliged to act when you file a complaint. I don't think a reputable hosting company will be happy that they offer services to a Russian client who is being investigated for a crime ... which could make them liable too if they ignore that. Just show them a copy of the criminal complaint and I am sure they will act promptly.

I am familiar, I live in Prague and have complained about "ulozto" but without success. Nobody gives shit about somebody stealing porn.

But now, I am taken care of. I have retained a company who is killing pirates faster then they can upload it.


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