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You can pretend to sit high up on a throne of moral superiority all you'd like, but it's nothing more than a charade, period. |
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Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea locking down, Indonesia and Thailand freaking out. India's gift to the world is being delivered... but on the Positive, vaccines are still holding it back. Best policy to deal with B.1.617.2 subvariant: Stop it at the border. Don't try this at home. |
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So you're saying there are no longer enough masks in the USA for everyone so the CDC is going to pretend that they are no longer needed and lie to us all (again) so that we walk around vulnerable but don't get scared? Makes so much sense, I'm glad you can clarify that for us. |
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India is smashing their outbreak with vaccines and double masking, Indonesia is about to follow the same route plus many other South Asian countries where these new variants are exploding in numbers. Slight problem is that represents about 2.5 billion people. Many of these countries have just started vaccine roll outs so for the vast majority, masking and social distancing is all they have and of course these are the very countries 50%+ of our masks in the West come from. ..We're back or soon to be, not having enough masks again. |
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The situation in India is what it is because it's crowded as fuck and filthy as fuck. Many people don't even have a place to wash their hands. They wash in the Ganges, dispose of their dead in the Ganges, etc. It's not exactly a model of sanitation even before any kind of pandemic. It's not because they aren't masking. The Indian variant anywhere in the west would look dramatically different. |
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India was masking for a year and then cases spiked badly. If masks worked, they wouldn't have spiked. |
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Then a week later you call people selfish assholes or uncaring again and someone else shows you some data that you don't want to look at. Then a week later same thing. You're not here to discuss, you're here to virtue signal and I've noticed that you have been that way since you joined the board. This is all about you getting acceptance from this community so your programs can be looked upon favorably. That's fine and you can do whatever you want but careful when it comes to politics. You are doing more harm than good when you do it with politics, especially with this Corona stuff. |
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Debating "facts" is useless in 2021 and has been for a long time now. You know as well as I do that "facts" are no longer "facts" but "my truth" and "fake news". So going back-and-forth, citing this study vs. that report, is a completely useless exercise I will not engage in. Having said that, someone saying they don't wear masks because they don't give a fuck about anyone else doesn't need "facts" to be debated. That person is a selfish cunt, end of discussion. Will my engaging them in a meaningful discussion change their attitude about others? No it will not. I am not really in the Politics section much nor do I give long answers like this in threads like this. I am too busy working and I do not argue with people set in their ways. Good? |
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India has multiple issues but they did stop the spread of last years covid waves. Look beyond India to places where the same variants are now starting. Singapore, HK, SK, Thailand, Indonesia. Numbers are exploding in all of them and few are vaccinated. The good news for us white rich folk in far away lands is, vaccines are working. |
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.. and now here they are 4 months later with Modicovid thanks to variants. India will get over covid! just no other country is getting anything needed to treat it from them while they deal with their own 1.3 billion population, and that's the issue, because countries dependant on Indian supplies are also beginning to get new variant waves. |
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In our past arguments on Corona you responded with "whatever." after I took the time to show you stats and try to make a point. I still believe in discussion and agree with you that it is getting more and more difficult to do these days but it is worth the effort when the other person is trying. |
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If people who are trained to wear them properly with the best available masks can't do so then what is average Joe going to do with a piece of cloth? |
BTW ...
I encourage everyone to take the Covid Chart Quiz. https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/ See if you can correctly guess the lock down date or mask mandate in a country or state. |
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there. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElE7EHeV...name=4096x4096 |
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We can't stop this virus. It will do what it will do. Take the quiz: https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/ |
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It's not that long until we have a universal vaccine ready, then its game over we win. Its just we are a few years out from that, BUT.. 10 years closer than we were in 2019.. thanks to the influx in money/ research/public interest, from Covid. Nothings advanced human medicines more than wars and pandemics. And this ones the granddaddy of them all because international travel spread it to every corner of the planet, so its a worldwide somewhat combined effort. |
This thread is a testament to adult in 2021. A bunch of old, out of touch morons that don't have an ounce of curiosity, or the ability to take in new information and adapt. Just mindless drivel from such a large chunk of people that should have some respectability after 2 decades here but instead you just solidify how shitty you are.
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I always get a kick out of Millenials & Gen Z's thinking they're so much smarter than previous generations, yet, we have to put warning labels on tide pods and such so you don't eat them... |
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2 states with very similar populations. 1 state had the most strict measures in the country, the other had very little to none. Both states resulted in identical covid numbers. Not to mention, your graphic is extremely linear, and neither air nor virus loads travel in a straight line. |
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Because of new variants Australia has just updated to this recommendation "N95 masks, goggles, gowns and gloves be used in interactions with patients with COVID-19, or those suspected to have it." https://www.smh.com.au/national/covi...15-p57s8x.html Problem is there's not enough to go around, even for front line staff. Double masking is a work around but once again we don't have the production to double mask usage especially with India's current out break where their 1.3 billion population is sucking up world supply. US article on N95 supply from January https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ply-in-the-u-s |
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I think the Mexican obese guy that works here will die soon of Covid related symptons. While it is 35 degrees he is wearing his mask outside and sweating like an ox all day. His lungs or heart must collapse soon cause of CO2 poisoning.
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Tip for Australia, only lockdown the 70+ and obese with underlying disease. That will help the hospital staff. Some will be selfish and don't care and will try to escape from those guarded "70+ Corona Camps". No vaccine pasport needed, just look at the birth date in their passport and guess their weight. If you are not sure; if they can't do the 100 meter in 15 seconds, don't let them in. Better; everyone that can't run the 100 meter in 15 second, stay inside! Quit mac donalds, quit smoking, quit drinking else you are selfish. And stop playing Australian Football, more dangerous than Corona for the young people.
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or are you being sarcastic because of this reason? |
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That means 95% was older than 65. So if that group is protected, than hospitals won't fill up that fast. |
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The simple fact is, these bullshit "masks" people are wearing aren't protecting anyone. The ONLY masks that would affect slowing the spread of a virus are N95 respirators or better, but even then, you still have other open orifices and a virus isn't transmitted in only one fashion. The "vaccine" doesn't stop one from getting or transmitting the virus and is untested to boot. It was rushed to market and sold to millions of people through fear. The fact that no one in the world has any information on short or long-term side effects should terrify the common person, but these days, people are so ignorant, gullible, and indoctrinated, they'd literally eat a pile of shit if Fauci told them it would protect them from covid. |
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The numbers do not lie, regardless of what they tell you on TV. FL and NY are so close in comparison they are statistically equal. One state had the most strict mandates, guidelines, and lockdowns, the other didn't. Yet, the end result between the 2 is statistically identical. Oh, and one state (NY) sentenced thousands of seniors to death to boot. |
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The reason is because they are not arguing from an intellectual level but rather an emotional/religious one. It's why your point about them changing their minds only when the TV (religion) changes it's mind is true. Kind of like trying to tell ultra religious people that the world wasn't created in 6 days. They simply can't see any other truth but their own because if they did then their world would fall apart. |
Case in point...
Leftists: Flu cases are down because everyone is wearing a mask. Also leftists: Covid cases are up because people aren't wearing their masks. You seriously can't make this shit up. |
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Oh, and, chant 3-4 words over and over again like parrots. |
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It's actually scary. So many unconscious people going around mindlessly. It's what zombies represent in horror movies ... group narrative without independent thought. |
Here are all the "facts" to justify my position.
Which side is that? Dem or Repub? Hmmmmm..... Common sense? Nope - too much of a victim of propaganda. Oh well.... Carry on? |
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Masks, for some reason (tho we all know why) have become a political issue when it should always have been a health care issue. So now? Everyone is confused, upset, angry, self-righteous, mean-spirited and stuck in their idealogy. I mean this for both sides of the issue. Sad really. |
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I understand masks very well thanks. |
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Virus particles are far too small for anything less than N95, which is what N95 was specifically designed for. Bacteria particles are much larger than virus particles, and can, for the most part, be mitigated through the use of surgical masks, which is their intended purpose. And even if surgical masks provided the slightest amount of viral transmission mitigation, the simple fact of the matter is most people wear what equates to a t-shirt or worse in "protection". This entire notion that wearing masks has helped mitigate the spread of covid is an absolute farce. The fact they had to change the definition of the term "herd immunity" in order to push the "vaccine" is another huge farce. And the only reason any of this is political is that y'all make it so. You love to think anyone who is against mask mandates or this untested, rushed-to-market so-called vaccine is an "evil, racist, sexist, homophobic, granny killing republican", but that's just simply not factual. Anyway, I know nothing I say here will sway you in any way, shape, or form because you only trust the TV, so I'll end with this... At the end of the day, you do what you think is best for you and I'll do the same... but we both know that won't happen. You and others on the radicalized left will continue to demonize and dehumanize anyone and everyone who doesn't hop on board with the beliefs you got from TV, so it is what it is. |
"But the masks stop the droplets!" you say...
I say, the last time anyone ever spat into my mouth was exactly never. The only person on this planet I swap spit with is my wife. Hell, I don't even drink after my own kids. The last time anyone sneezed or coughed on me was, also, exactly never. If you're worried about people literally spitting in your mouth then you're either completely delusional, or you hang around some seriously gross people. |
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And I'm sorry WHO was president when all this started? WHO made it political? WHO made the CDC gutless and run by a political hack? WHO has the most interest in dividing people over any and all issues? Oh right - TRUMP. Carry on. |
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