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Mindi 12-06-2025 05:11 PM

50 Ai Agents :thumbsup

I'm happy to discuss this stuff with anyone interested. If you need a project done, hit me up at WebIgniter.com

nick3131 12-07-2025 10:10 AM

Bump fascinating thread :)

AmeliaG 12-07-2025 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23417089)
Very nice site...

What would you charge to do this for other cities ? Can you do it in different languages ?

Could you do it for other businesses as well ? Let say BnBs ?


I think a challenge there would be getting approved for the Airbnb API because they want to know use case. They do approve travel booking sites, so could fly, just more of a process. But barriers to entry can be a plus if you get through of course.

Publisher Bucks 12-07-2025 01:41 PM

We wrote a similar code using Claude earlier this year, but for hotels and also noticed a lot of top ranks for specific hotel names and locations.

Throw some Google ad codes up and make decent $$ with next to no work needed :thumbsup

2MuchMark 12-07-2025 02:07 PM

Mindi,

First let me say, impressive automation work. I am doing alot of automation these days too, and if they aren't already, alot of people should start looking into automation the way you are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417117)
So many top 5's. Out of 764 keywords listed in search console, 150 are ranked top 10 in google

I’m curious though: with all the early rankings you’ve shown, do you happen to have any traffic graphs yet? I’d love to see how the performance looks on the Search Console side.

Mindi 12-07-2025 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417397)
Mindi,

First let me say, impressive automation work. I am doing alot of automation these days too, and if they aren't already, alot of people should start looking into automation the way you are.



I’m curious though: with all the early rankings you’ve shown, do you happen to have any traffic graphs yet? I’d love to see how the performance looks on the Search Console side.

You and you buddy attacked my fucking business. You and your buddy attack my country constantly. You think I'm going to share data with you?

Yeah I bet you're fucking curious since I'm now in your backyard as well.

2MuchMark 12-07-2025 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417434)
You and you buddy attacked my fucking business. You and your buddy attack my country constantly. You think I'm going to share data with you?

Yeah I bet you're fucking curious since I'm now in your backyard as well.

It was just a standard SEO question since you shared the ranking screenshots. I wasn’t implying any competition.

Mindi 12-07-2025 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417437)
It was just a standard SEO question since you shared the ranking screenshots. I wasn’t implying any competition.

You may fuck off and go away now. Do not ever think that we are "cool" do you understand?

2MuchMark 12-07-2025 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417440)
You may fuck off and go away now. Do not ever think that we are "cool" do you understand?

Relax... it was just a standard SEO question based on the screenshots you posted.

Mindi 12-07-2025 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417441)
Relax... it was just a standard SEO question based on the screenshots you posted.

Relax, and fuck off :2 cents:

The Porn Nerd 12-07-2025 09:04 PM

OK this is awesome for mainstream (congrats man, very impressive!) but can we discuss doing this for porn paysites? This being a porn industry board and all. :)

Is it possible or is mainstream sites the way to go with this?

Mindi 12-08-2025 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23417470)
OK this is awesome for mainstream (congrats man, very impressive!) but can we discuss doing this for porn paysites? This being a porn industry board and all. :)

Is it possible or is mainstream sites the way to go with this?

Can you go into a little more detail of your data source for that? I'm able to do this because of API access for different data source, and then I do alot of Ai generation and use some fancy templates.

The Porn Nerd 12-08-2025 10:03 AM

Well the only 'data source' is my content on my server. I am not using API from different companies to integrate their content.

I just want to churn out new porn sites with the least amount of effort. :)

Mindi 12-08-2025 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23417572)
Well the only 'data source' is my content on my server. I am not using API from different companies to integrate their content.

I just want to churn out new porn sites with the least amount of effort. :)

You can hit me up at WebIgniter.com, hit the form at the bottom and we can talk :thumbsup

This is nice. The past two nights, I've typed a prompt and went to bed. I wake up, and there's a new site ready to go.

It's just like Christmas :xmas-smil30

Mindi 12-08-2025 04:33 PM

I have now unlocked -EVERYTHING-

It is no longer just for restaurants. This expands the capability enormously.

Test template for a Brantford Dermatology clinic:
https://brantfordinsider.com/busines...logy-oakville/

This is developing at a rapid pace now, in between website orders... seems a lot of people want these built overnight.

This is simply an informative type listing. They can also become promotional with a complete rewrite in tone and presentation, CTA buttons, etc.

Mindi 12-08-2025 04:37 PM

Multilingual capability is in the works :thumbsup

Zuzana Designs 12-08-2025 05:38 PM

Nice work. It looks great!

Dead 12-08-2025 11:21 PM

Friendly nudge....this will work...simply business

cordoba 12-09-2025 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23417470)
OK this is awesome for mainstream (congrats man, very impressive!) but can we discuss doing this for porn paysites? This being a porn industry board and all. :)

Is it possible or is mainstream sites the way to go with this?

I made a thread asking about this last year and nobody replied. But it seems we're getting to that point very soon.

I wonder if it will mean that premium domain names will increase in value again, as it will be so easy to automate site building that domains will be one of the few things that will set a site apart from all the rest? In any case, I've got hundreds of domains that I was planning to finally let drop, but now I'm keeping as it will be easy automate developing them soon (at least pending upon the age verification problem).

Mindi 12-09-2025 01:17 AM

In the end, data is just data, so yes you can do this. The problem is that the Ai models I use, wont write adult content. I suppose it would be possible to build out the frame/template of the page (or site) with place holders for adult content, and then have a more relaxed, adult-intent Ai come in and write that part.

That should not be hard to build. Actually... if I were still in that game I think I would do this.

I could kill adult dating with something like that... if there were any adult dating left.

Wtify 12-09-2025 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417752)
In the end, data is just data, so yes you can do this. The problem is that the Ai models I use, wont write adult content. I suppose it would be possible to build out the frame/template of the page (or site) with place holders for adult content, and then have a more relaxed, adult-intent Ai come in and write that part.

That should not be hard to build. Actually... if I were still in that game I think I would do this.

I could kill adult dating with something like that... if there were any adult dating left.

You can simply let other AI models doing the dirty job. I build the logic with claude code, including all the requests to Replicate (can't remember the model I use).

Mindi 12-09-2025 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wtify (Post 23417755)
You can simply let other AI models doing the dirty job. I build the logic with claude code, including all the requests to Replicate (can't remember the model I use).

Yes... you said it the easy way though :1orglaugh

jamezon 12-09-2025 04:46 AM

whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

Mindi 12-09-2025 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23417773)
whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

ok :thumbsup

The Porn Nerd 12-09-2025 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23417773)
whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

That's for wordpress, I am talking about HTML and PHP sites.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 09:20 AM

Mindi, Again, nice automatation. I do alot of automation too as mentioned so I am interested in this kind of stuff.

I noticed in your Search Console screenshot that many of your top rankings are for specific restaurant names like "labetto", "le vita", "levetta pizza". When I check these in Google Keyword Planner and similar tools, they show very low/zero search volume.

Could you share some examples of your rankings for higher-volume discovery keywords like "best restaurants in brantford" or "italian restaurants brantford"? Those are typically the queries that drive actual traffic and business leads.

For reference, here's a search for one of the competitive terms: https://www.google.com/search?q=best...s+in+brantford

Where does your site show up for queries like these?

Mindi 12-09-2025 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417808)
Mindi, Again, nice automatation. I do alot of automation too as mentioned so I am interested in this kind of stuff.

I noticed in your Search Console screenshot that many of your top rankings are for specific restaurant names like "labetto", "le vita", "levetta pizza". When I check these in Google Keyword Planner and similar tools, they show very low/zero search volume.

Could you share some examples of your rankings for higher-volume discovery keywords like "best restaurants in brantford" or "italian restaurants brantford"? Those are typically the queries that drive actual traffic and business leads.

For reference, here's a search for one of the competitive terms: https://www.google.com/search?q=best...s+in+brantford

Where does your site show up for queries like these?

Bounce your fucking ass out of my threads and don't come back, do you fucking understand? You didn't seem to understand the first fucking time so lets me make myself perfectly clear:

FUCK OFF - Do you understand NOW?

You and you "employee" TheLegacy already tried attacking my business once and now he's already destroyed his credibility, got exposed as a fraud, came back as a stalker and attacked my FAMILY... and I dont see YOU as any different. Engage me one more time and you're going to have a fucking real world issue.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417817)
Bounce your fucking ass out of my threads and don't come back, do you fucking understand? You didn't seem to understand the first fucking time so lets me make myself perfectly clear:

FUCK OFF - Do you understand NOW?

You and you "employee" TheLegacy already tried attacking my business once and now he's already destroyed his credibility, got exposed as a fraud, came back as a stalker and attacked my FAMILY... and I dont see YOU as any different. Engage me one more time and you're going to have a fucking real world issue.

I am only asking you a simple SEO question.

To clarify: Legacy is not my employee and never was, but we have several of the same clients. I often refer contractors to my clients who need particular services such as graphics, models, SEO, etc.

I have potential clients for you Minidi.

Can you please answer my question? Am I misunderstanding what it does? If you want to help me recommend your product, tell me what I am getting wrong if you want.

Actually, I have 2 clients potentially for you. One is in adult, the other is in mainstream.

I asked about ranking data for competitive keywords because that's standard due diligence when evaluating SEO claims, thats all Mindi.

Mindi 12-09-2025 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417821)
I am only asking you a simple SEO question.

To clarify: Legacy is not my employee and never was, but we have several of the same clients. I often refer contractors to my clients who need particular services such as graphics, models, SEO, etc.

I have potential clients for you Minidi.

Can you please answer my question? Am I misunderstanding what it does? If you want to help me recommend your product, tell me what I am getting wrong if you want.

Also, my client is mainstream, not adult.

I do not care. I'm not doing ANY business with the likes of YOU. Now fucking bounce. :2 cents:

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417822)
I do not care. I'm not doing ANY business with the likes of YOU. Now fucking bounce. :2 cents:

Don't get so mad Mindi I am just trying to understand something.

You said here that your site "outranks Trip Advisor for many local searches." But when I search for competitive local terms like:

https://www.google.com/search?q=best...ntford+ontario
https://www.google.com/search?q=wher...t+in+brantford and
https://www.google.com/search?q=top+...ants+brantford

I see TripAdvisor, Yelp, and Google Maps dominating, but I don't see brantfordinsider.com in the top 20 results. Could you share specific queries where your site outranks TripAdvisor I Want to understand what I'm missing here.

I am completely serious when I say I have 1, possibly 2 clients for you. One of them has a dozen or so domains for a dozen or so different products, and wants to create dozens of additional domains and websites for each. Normally Legacy would be my first choice but the guy is swamped with work until March or something and my client doesn't want to wait that long. If you aren't interested in the business then thats up to you I guess, but if you can please answer the questions, maybe we can turn the page on things.... this is an olive branch...

Mindi 12-09-2025 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417823)
Don't get so mad Mindi I am just trying to understand something.

You said here that your site "outranks Trip Advisor for many local searches." But when I search for competitive local terms like:

https://www.google.com/search?q=best...ntford+ontario
https://www.google.com/search?q=wher...t+in+brantford and
https://www.google.com/search?q=top+...ants+brantford

I see TripAdvisor, Yelp, and Google Maps dominating, but I don't see brantfordinsider.com in the top 20 results. Could you share specific queries where your site outranks TripAdvisor I Want to understand what I'm missing here.

I am completely serious when I say I have 1, possibly 2 clients for you. One of them has a dozen or so domains for a dozen or so different products, and wants to create dozens of additional domains and websites for each. Normally Legacy would be my first choice but the guy is swamped with work until March or something and my client doesn't want to wait that long. If you aren't interested in the business then thats up to you I guess, but if you can please answer the questions, maybe we can turn the page on things.... this is an olive branch...


Take that olive branch and shove it up your fucking ass. You just don't fucking get it do you? I do not care what you are offering. I would not do business you and that fucking fraud and stalker TheLegacy for ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417826)
Take that olive branch and shove it up your fucking ass. You just don't fucking get it do you? I do not care what you are offering. I would not do business you and that fucking fraud and stalker TheLegacy for ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

I didn’t say business with me or with legacy. I offered to send the clients to you. These were one of their questions. It’s a basic SEO question is it not? Geeze …. If you don’t want to answer for me that’s fine but what about everyone else reading this thread? Is my question wrong?

Mindi 12-09-2025 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417829)
Is my question wrong?

Your EXISTENCE is fucking wrong.

If somebody else wants to ask a question, they THEY can ask it themselves.

jamezon 12-09-2025 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 23417572)
Well the only 'data source' is my content on my server. I am not using API from different companies to integrate their content.

I just want to churn out new porn sites with the least amount of effort. :)

in that case you need to get structured data from your old sites and store it somewhere, maybe try n8n or some other scraping solutions for the beginner, then you might be inspired to go further

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417832)
Your EXISTENCE is fucking wrong.

If somebody else wants to ask a question, they THEY can ask it themselves.

I am asking on their behalf because like I said one of them is in mainstream and she's the one asking. Do you want her business? Her questions are valid aren't they? And besides don't you think that other people here would want answers to simple questions like that too?

Wtify 12-09-2025 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23417773)
whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

I think the point is how easy is to implement such structure these days. To be honest I'm impressed by Claude Code. It's like having a developing team at your disposal for $200 / month.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 03:08 PM

I found this:

https://developers.google.com/search...elpful-content

Could you share examples of where your site ranks for discovery/research queries in the competitive space?

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23417773)
whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

^^ THIS ^^

The local directory space is indeed crowded with established players and you raised a good question about market saturation.

Mindi: Your automation is cool. Take it from me. I am automating everything so I think my opinion matters a little here. Take my compliment. You deserve it. Honestly.

Now, please show ranking for competitive discovery terms. I am about to hand you a talented, female, mainstream client. This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works.

Mindi 12-09-2025 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417851)
^^ THIS ^^

The local directory space is indeed crowded with established players and you raised a good question about market saturation.

Mindi: Your automation is cool. Take it from me. I am automating everything so I think my opinion matters a little here. Take my compliment. You deserve it. Honestly.

Now, please show ranking for competitive discovery terms. I am about to hand you a talented, female, mainstream client. This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works.

Go fuck yourself. Do you see a FOR SALE sign here? I do not need to prove anything now do I? I do not care if your client is Elon fucking Musk if it's attached to you I will simply pass. I do not need your business or anything from you Mark. Only thing I would LIKE is for you finally get the message that I dont fucking like you so fucking piss off. You and your fucking buddy Legacy have done enough damage. Fucking go away.

Umami 12-09-2025 03:58 PM

2MuchMark is the type of dude that got told no at parties and still continued to grope the girl

Mindi 12-09-2025 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamezon (Post 23417773)
whats so magic about this ? its called scraping or stealing

you can pull any scraped content and republish via wordpress api since 15 years now with a couple of lines of code

the question is, is there a demand for that kind of search traffic and what makes your results better then all those competitors doing the same . there are gazillions of rescrapers out there . good luck with your new rocket science. if you needed ai to figure this out your a bit late to the party i guess.

Now that it's not 6am and I'd haven't been coding for 18 hours straight, let me address this one :)

You're confusing scraping with licensed API use. They're not the same thing - legally, technically, or strategically.

Let me break this down since you brought up "scraping or stealing":

SCRAPING vs. LICENSED APIs

Scraping (what you're describing):

❌ Unauthorized copying of copyrighted content
❌ Violates terms of service
❌ Gets you cease & desist letters
❌ Sites detect it and block your IPs
❌ Data goes stale, breaks when site structure changes
❌ Legal liability

Licensed API Use (what I'm doing):

✅ Yelp Fusion API - Official commercial license
✅ Google Places API - Official commercial license
✅ TripAdvisor Content API - Official commercial license
✅ Legal terms of service explicitly grant you rights to display content
✅ Proper attribution required (which protects you)
✅ Data refreshes automatically
✅ No legal risk

The difference:

When you scrape TripAdvisor's website, you're copying copyrighted content without permission. Reviews, photos, descriptions - all copyrighted.

When you use TripAdvisor's Content API, they GIVE YOU A LICENSE to display that content as long as you follow display requirements (attribution, linking back, etc.).

Same data. Completely different legal status.

WHY THIS MATTERS:
1. Scalability

Scraping breaks constantly (site redesigns, anti-bot measures, IP blocks)
APIs are stable, documented, supported
I can deploy 50 cities without worrying about getting shut down

2. Legal Protection

API terms of service = you have a license
Scraping = you're violating copyright and TOS
I sleep fine. Scrapers get sued.

3. Data Quality

APIs provide structured, clean data
Scraping gives you messy HTML you have to parse
My system pulls 500+ listings in minutes with zero errors

4. Business Legitimacy

APIs = you're a legitimate platform partner
Scraping = you're a parasite hoping not to get caught
When I talk to businesses about premium listings, I'm not hiding what I do


THE TECHNICAL REALITY:

What my system does:
1. Yelp Fusion API call → Returns JSON with:
- Business name, address, phone, hours
- Star rating (4.5 stars, 238 reviews)
- Review excerpts with attribution
- Photos with license to display
- All structured, clean, ready to use

2. Google Places API call → Returns JSON with:
- Additional business data
- More photos
- Google Maps integration
- Place IDs for linking

3. AI Processing:
- Generate unique descriptions (not copied from anywhere)
- Create 8-10 SEO-optimized articles
- Build bilingual content (EN/IT, EN/FR, etc.)
- Optimize meta tags, schema markup, internal linking

4. WordPress deployment:
- Automated posting via WP-CLI
- Custom post types for listings
- Taxonomy management
- Image optimization
- Mobile-responsive theme

Result: Complete directory in under 24 hours
This isn't "a couple lines of code to scrape WordPress API."
This is 16,000+ lines of Python across 34 modules handling:

API authentication and rate limiting
Data normalization across multiple sources
Bilingual content generation
SEO optimization
Image processing
Database management
WordPress integration
Error handling and logging


THE BUSINESS MODEL:

This isn't an AdSense arbitrage play.

Here's how it actually works:

Build directory (MontrealInsider.com, TylerInsider.com, etc.)
Rank for local searches ("best restaurants in Brantford," "things to do in Tyler")
Capture business owner attention (they Google themselves, find my listing)
Convert to SEO audits, custom software sales, consulting, other things that I do
Upsell implementation (ongoing SEO services)

The directory is the lead magnet, not the revenue.
I'm not trying to compete with Yelp on ad revenue. I'm using owned traffic assets to generate leads for my core business: SEO and custom software

Proven results:

Built MontrealInsider.com as a demo
Generated multiple inbound leads within 48 hours
Directories consistently convert at 2-3% to paid audits, SEO services, custom software


WHY "EVERYONE DOING THIS" DOESN'T MATTER:

Most people doing "local directories" are:

Running AdSense farms (low margins, Google penalizes them)
Actually scraping (illegal, get shut down)
Building manually (takes weeks per city, doesn't scale)
Not monetizing properly (just hoping for ad clicks)
Have no backend service (no real business, just hoping to flip the site)

I'm doing this differently:

Legal API usage (can scale to 100+ cities without legal risk)
Automated deployment (24 hours per directory)
Real backend business (SEO services with proven demand)
Asset building (own the traffic, own the customer relationship)


THE "LATE TO THE PARTY" ARGUMENT:

You're right - APIs have existed for 15 years.

Here's what changed:

AI content generation (ChatGPT/Claude) made it economically viable to create unique, quality content at scale
API pricing dropped (Yelp/Google made APIs more accessible)
Local SEO got easier (Google prioritizes helpful local content)
WordPress optimization tools (deployment is faster than ever)

But mainly:

I'm not trying to invent something new. I'm applying 25+ years of affiliate marketing experience (multiple 7 figures properties in adult industry) to a proven model.

The "magic" isn't the technology - it's the execution:

Speed of deployment (most people take weeks, I take hours)
Business model integration (directory → leads → service revenue)
Legal compliance (APIs not scraping)
Scalability (can deploy 50+ cities)


BOTTOM LINE:

If you think this is "just scraping with WordPress API" - you're missing the entire point.

This is:

Legal API licensing (not scraping)
Automated content generation (not copying)
Lead generation (not AdSense arbitrage)
Real business backend (not hoping to flip domains)

If it's so easy, why aren't you doing it?

I'm not here to convince skeptics. I'm here to build assets and generate leads.

The proof is in the results: I'm getting inbound business inquiries from live demos while everyone else is debating whether it's "rocket science."

Good luck with whatever you're working on. :thumbsup


For business inquires, my website is WebIgniter.com

Killswitch 12-09-2025 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417851)
^^ THIS ^^

The local directory space is indeed crowded with established players and you raised a good question about market saturation.

Mindi: Your automation is cool. Take it from me. I am automating everything so I think my opinion matters a little here. Take my compliment. You deserve it. Honestly.

Now, please show ranking for competitive discovery terms. I am about to hand you a talented, female, mainstream client. This is your last chance to prove your SEO really works.

Just so you're aware we can see exactly what you're trying to do and it's not cool at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umami (Post 23417859)
2MuchMark is the type of dude that got told no at parties and still continued to grope the girl

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417863)
Now that it's not 6am and I'd haven't been coding for 18 hours straight, let me address this one :)

You're confusing scraping with licensed API use. They're not the same thing - legally, technically, or strategically.

Let me break this down since you brought up "scraping or stealing":

SCRAPING vs. LICENSED APIs

Scraping (what you're describing):

❌ Unauthorized copying of copyrighted content
❌ Violates terms of service
❌ Gets you cease & desist letters
❌ Sites detect it and block your IPs
❌ Data goes stale, breaks when site structure changes
❌ Legal liability

Licensed API Use (what I'm doing):

✅ Yelp Fusion API - Official commercial license
✅ Google Places API - Official commercial license
✅ TripAdvisor Content API - Official commercial license
✅ Legal terms of service explicitly grant you rights to display content
✅ Proper attribution required (which protects you)
✅ Data refreshes automatically
✅ No legal risk

The difference:

When you scrape TripAdvisor's website, you're copying copyrighted content without permission. Reviews, photos, descriptions - all copyrighted.

When you use TripAdvisor's Content API, they GIVE YOU A LICENSE to display that content as long as you follow display requirements (attribution, linking back, etc.).

Same data. Completely different legal status.

WHY THIS MATTERS:
1. Scalability

Scraping breaks constantly (site redesigns, anti-bot measures, IP blocks)
APIs are stable, documented, supported
I can deploy 50 cities without worrying about getting shut down

2. Legal Protection

API terms of service = you have a license
Scraping = you're violating copyright and TOS
I sleep fine. Scrapers get sued.

3. Data Quality

APIs provide structured, clean data
Scraping gives you messy HTML you have to parse
My system pulls 500+ listings in minutes with zero errors

4. Business Legitimacy

APIs = you're a legitimate platform partner
Scraping = you're a parasite hoping not to get caught
When I talk to businesses about premium listings, I'm not hiding what I do


THE TECHNICAL REALITY:

What my system does:
1. Yelp Fusion API call → Returns JSON with:
- Business name, address, phone, hours
- Star rating (4.5 stars, 238 reviews)
- Review excerpts with attribution
- Photos with license to display
- All structured, clean, ready to use

2. Google Places API call → Returns JSON with:
- Additional business data
- More photos
- Google Maps integration
- Place IDs for linking

3. AI Processing:
- Generate unique descriptions (not copied from anywhere)
- Create 8-10 SEO-optimized articles
- Build bilingual content (EN/IT, EN/FR, etc.)
- Optimize meta tags, schema markup, internal linking

4. WordPress deployment:
- Automated posting via WP-CLI
- Custom post types for listings
- Taxonomy management
- Image optimization
- Mobile-responsive theme

Result: Complete directory in under 24 hours
This isn't "a couple lines of code to scrape WordPress API."
This is 16,000+ lines of Python across 34 modules handling:

API authentication and rate limiting
Data normalization across multiple sources
Bilingual content generation
SEO optimization
Image processing
Database management
WordPress integration
Error handling and logging


THE BUSINESS MODEL:

This isn't an AdSense arbitrage play.

Here's how it actually works:

Build directory (MontrealInsider.com, TylerInsider.com, etc.)
Rank for local searches ("best restaurants in Brantford," "things to do in Tyler")
Capture business owner attention (they Google themselves, find my listing)
Convert to SEO audits, custom software sales, consulting, other things that I do
Upsell implementation (ongoing SEO services)

The directory is the lead magnet, not the revenue.
I'm not trying to compete with Yelp on ad revenue. I'm using owned traffic assets to generate leads for my core business: SEO and custom software

Proven results:

Built MontrealInsider.com as a demo
Generated multiple inbound leads within 48 hours
Directories consistently convert at 2-3% to paid audits, SEO services, custom software


WHY "EVERYONE DOING THIS" DOESN'T MATTER:

Most people doing "local directories" are:

Running AdSense farms (low margins, Google penalizes them)
Actually scraping (illegal, get shut down)
Building manually (takes weeks per city, doesn't scale)
Not monetizing properly (just hoping for ad clicks)
Have no backend service (no real business, just hoping to flip the site)

I'm doing this differently:

Legal API usage (can scale to 100+ cities without legal risk)
Automated deployment (24 hours per directory)
Real backend business (SEO services with proven demand)
Asset building (own the traffic, own the customer relationship)


THE "LATE TO THE PARTY" ARGUMENT:

You're right - APIs have existed for 15 years.

Here's what changed:

AI content generation (ChatGPT/Claude) made it economically viable to create unique, quality content at scale
API pricing dropped (Yelp/Google made APIs more accessible)
Local SEO got easier (Google prioritizes helpful local content)
WordPress optimization tools (deployment is faster than ever)

But mainly:

I'm not trying to invent something new. I'm applying 25+ years of affiliate marketing experience (multiple 7 figures properties in adult industry) to a proven model.

The "magic" isn't the technology - it's the execution:

Speed of deployment (most people take weeks, I take hours)
Business model integration (directory → leads → service revenue)
Legal compliance (APIs not scraping)
Scalability (can deploy 50+ cities)


BOTTOM LINE:

If you think this is "just scraping with WordPress API" - you're missing the entire point.

This is:

Legal API licensing (not scraping)
Automated content generation (not copying)
Lead generation (not AdSense arbitrage)
Real business backend (not hoping to flip domains)

If it's so easy, why aren't you doing it?

I'm not here to convince skeptics. I'm here to build assets and generate leads.

The proof is in the results: I'm getting inbound business inquiries from live demos while everyone else is debating whether it's "rocket science."

Good luck with whatever you're working on. :thumbsup


For business inquires, my website is WebIgniter.com


So first, that is a copy-paste from Claude, an AI, something you blasted Legacy for doing just the other day.

Next, you said:

"These rank very well because I've been doing SEO since 1997".
- Source: Post #1

"So many top 5's. Out of 764 keywords, 150 are ranked top 10 in google"
- Source: post #22

"It outranks Trip Advisor for many local searches"
- Source: Post #26

Except that it doesn't. See for yourself:

https://www.google.com/search?q=best...s+in+brantford
https://www.google.com/search?q=top+...ntford+ontario
https://www.google.com/search?q=wher...t+in+brantford

So which is it - SEO ranking success or just a demo site for lead generation?

CyberHustler 12-09-2025 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 23417869)
Just so you're aware we can see exactly what you're trying to do and it's not cool at all.

You missed the original thread that set this multi-nic madness off 🤣

Mark just getting a little revenge, that's all.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 05:18 PM

I also found this:

Google's own documentation warns against focusing on position rankings without traffic context https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/7576553

Also, Moz's gude to SEO says Rankings are not the goal, attracting the right visitors is: https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo

When someone shows Search Console position screenshots but refuses to show the Performance tab with actual clicks and impressions, that's a red flag. Real SEO professionals (like https://robertwarrenseo.com) know the difference between vanity metrics (positions for zero-volume keywords) and business metrics (traffic from competitive discovery terms).

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 23417869)
Just so you're aware we can see exactly what you're trying to do and it's not cool at all.

Hi Killswitch,

Sorry that you think that way, but it's really not my intention. As mentioned earlier I have 2 clients looking for some automation like Mindi is describing when it comes to SEO. One of them was approached by a russian guy who is promising all kinds of similar things that Mindi is. I am trying to help my client, AND create a bridge of peace between Mindi and I, AND learn some new stuff, AND help out fellow GFY'ers. Could I have done this better? Of course, but, at least I didn't fly off the handle multiple times like Mindi did, right?

Peace.

2MuchMark 12-09-2025 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23417873)
Mark just getting a little revenge, that's all.

WAT?!?! NoooOoo....

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...NTtXzQ/200.gif

Mindi 12-09-2025 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417870)
So first, that is a copy-paste from Claude, an AI, something you blasted Legacy for doing just the other day.

Next, you said:

"These rank very well because I've been doing SEO since 1997".
- Source: Post #1

"So many top 5's. Out of 764 keywords, 150 are ranked top 10 in google"
- Source: post #22

"It outranks Trip Advisor for many local searches"
- Source: Post #26

So which is it - SEO ranking success or just a demo site for lead generation?

It's both you fucking idiot.

Yes I copied it from claude, because claude is writing it with me, why wouldn't I ask the source how to answer the question? He answers it way better than I can. There is NOWHERE ELSE to get the information from.

As for the rest...
I will not show YOU anything. :)

Mindi 12-09-2025 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23417876)
I am trying to help my client, AND create a bridge of peace between Mindi and I.

I will light that fucking bridge with both you and your client on it. :2 cents:

Pathfinder 12-09-2025 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindi (Post 23417879)
I will light that fucking bridge with both you and your client on it. :2 cents:



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