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BOSS1 04-15-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12255959)
and they say my people skills are lacking.

are you saying mine are worse :) ?

Goodings Media 04-15-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12256573)
I suggest you stay away from the icecream until after the test.

and what do Cosmetics have to do with Relativistic Space Science?

haha :) You been on the ice cream too?

3 exams, this one been the last. Need to 50% and above them all or I fail the year. No pressure.

CDSmith 04-15-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lane (Post 1913909)
- nothing can travel at or faster than lightspeed.

Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

i have the uncanny abilty to hear in the dark. Thus I am not so quick to toss around the word "impossible" :D

J. Falcon 04-15-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironhorse (Post 1911608)
Don't quit your dayjob.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Goodings Media 04-15-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256643)
Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

i have the uncanny abilty to hear in the dark. Thus I am not so quick to toss around the word "impossible" :D

Whats the fact that sound travels through vibrations in a medium, got to do with anything other than electromagnetic radiation travelling at light speeds?

At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles

GigoloMason 04-15-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256643)
Light can.

So if light particles can do it (travel at the speed of light), why is it such a stretch to comprehend that other forms of matter might be able to do it as well?

Because of relativistic mass increase. :2 cents:

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At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles
That about sums it up.

CDSmith 04-15-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)
Whats the fact that sound travels through vibrations in a medium, got to do with anything other than electromagnetic radiation travelling at light speeds?

it has to do with 1) the fact that some people so lack a sense of humor they completely miss that aspect of it,
and 2) the illustration (through humor mind you) of doing the seemingly impossible. I often find that those who are quick to say "that's impossible" are simply too close-minded to see that just because we as 21st century humans can't do it, doesn't necessarily mean something is impossible. It just means that it is impossible at present.

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Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)
At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles

But why? Light IS particles.

CDSmith 04-15-2007 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason (Post 12256655)
Because of relativistic mass increase. :2 cents:

Blabber jabber.

Once Dr. Daystrom invents the first warp drive you eggheads will eat your words.

12clicks 04-15-2007 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256653)
At speeds approaching c best to stop thinking of light as particles

why is that, because the theories don't hold up under such circumstances or because light particles stop existing at such speeds? :winkwink:

Goodings Media 04-15-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12256732)
why is that, because the theories don't hold up under such circumstances or because light particles stop existing at such speeds? :winkwink:

Because there isn;t a unified theory of light yet that holds true under all situations. Einstein would have got it, if he'd not been so obsessed with the goddam graviton......

12clicks 04-15-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goodings Media (Post 12256782)
Because there isn;t a unified theory of light yet that holds true under all situations.

or put another way the theories don't hold up under such circumstances :winkwink:

onlinecasino 07-30-2007 05:29 PM

oh it's possible alright, i've done some RESEARCH, i know several peoples who done it trough a device by aliens, never tryed myself but i will do it one day..

MrChips 07-30-2007 05:48 PM

I heard that the length of a second is based around our current galactic speed away from the point of origin of the big bang.

It is primarily this speed which gives us our current time dialation which we are familiar with.

If we were on a galaxy which was much further away from the point of origin of the big bang - then we would by definition be moving faster, and therefore incur a dialation whereby our seconds would last slightly longer.

(Using seconds to make it simple.)

12clicks 07-30-2007 07:55 PM

now what numb skull bumped this?
this is settled fact.
Who exactly are any of you to suggest I'm wrong?

MrChips 07-30-2007 07:57 PM

BTW - this means if you get on a rocket - and head back towards the point of origin of the big bang - your seconds will last a shorter period of time and you will age faster (as effectively you are moving slower than you were on the galaxy).

If you stop your rocket at the point of the origin of the big bang - then your seconds will elapse in an instant - you will no longer exist.

This I feel fits in with a unified theory of at the very least space, speed and time.

CDSmith 07-30-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12845965)
BTW - this means if you get on a rocket - and head back towards the point of origin of the big bang - your seconds will last a shorter period of time and you will age faster (as effectively you are moving slower than you were on the galaxy).

If you stop your rocket at the point of the origin of the big bang - then your seconds will elapse in an instant - you will no longer exist.

This I feel fits in with a unified theory of at the very least space, speed and time.

I disagree. I believe that time is linear no matter where in the universe you are. However, as you near the point of the big bang origin your head will implode.

I need a test subject.

High Plains Drifter 07-30-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloMason (Post 12256597)
http://www.physicscentral.com/writers/2000/will.html

But at 38 microseconds per day, the relativistic offset in the rates of the satellite clocks is so large that, if left uncompensated, it would cause navigational errors that accumulate faster than 10 km per day! GPS accounts for relativity by electronically adjusting the rates of the satellite clocks, and by building mathematical corrections into the computer chips which solve for the user's location. Without the proper application of relativity, GPS would fail in its navigational functions within about 2 minutes.
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Interesting article.

Squishy 07-30-2007 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 12256699)
Blabber jabber.

Once Dr. Daystrom invents the first warp drive you eggheads will eat your words.

Zefram Cochrane, not Daystrom...Daystrom was a computer guy.

AbulletAway 07-30-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bdjuf (Post 1912181)
black holes are just too crazy.
some theories say that when you go in a blackhole, you get teleported to another blackhole in the universe (theory of star trek, wich I never watch btw)


Umm no. Not even close. Star Trek delt in the concept of warp speed. The idea of being able to actually warp space. For example, point A and B are 3 light years apart. You warp the space between them so it's say maybe a few thousand miles depending upon the amount of warp you are applying.

The closest thing to what you're talking about our worm holes. (That would be Stargate, I always watch that right after Star Trek by the way.)

CDSmith 07-30-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Squishy (Post 12846248)
Zefram Cochrane, not Daystrom...Daystrom was a computer guy.

Sorry, was high on ice cream at the time. :D

AbulletAway 07-30-2007 10:00 PM

I can't believe I read the whole thing and I still don't know how much the ice cream cost.

xclusive 07-30-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AbulletAway (Post 12846287)
Umm no. Not even close. Star Trek delt in the concept of warp speed. The idea of being able to actually warp space. For example, point A and B are 3 light years apart. You warp the space between them so it's say maybe a few thousand miles depending upon the amount of warp you are applying.

The closest thing to what you're talking about our worm holes. (That would be Stargate, I always watch that right after Star Trek by the way.)

What a fucking nerd:)

mikesouth 07-31-2007 12:03 AM

all you did was disprove something einstein never implied

the limitation to traveling at the speed of light is mass

ie the closer you get to it the more your mass untill your mass becomes infinate at C

MrChips 07-31-2007 08:50 AM

I may be wrong - but didnt Einstein say that nothing could ACCELERATE to the speed of light because infinate energy was required (and theres the equivalence between mass and energy of course). I dont think he thought nothing could travel at the speed of light - as of course light does.

Im thinking that just because you cant get to the speed of light doesnt mean you cant move at the speed of light if you are already in motion. Chicken and egg probably.

I know one thing - the answer is out there somewhere.

Dododo be dododo be .....




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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 12846843)
all you did was disprove something einstein never implied

the limitation to traveling at the speed of light is mass

ie the closer you get to it the more your mass untill your mass becomes infinate at C


MrChips 07-31-2007 08:55 AM

Black holes - when you approach a Black hole feet first the tidal gravitational forces vary so greatly from 1mm to the next (IE your foot is therefore under MASSIVELY MORE gravity than your knee) - that your body becomes stretched like a piece of chewing gum as it approaches the singularity.

Effectively each atom which once formed you and your spacesuit would be stretched out in a big line - with the atoms from your shoes spaced further apart than those which came from your head.

All in a split second as you accelerated towards oblivion.

All this shit about black holes leading to another is rubbish - trust me - go near a black hole and you are fucked - BIG TIME.

12clicks 01-09-2008 09:59 AM

classic bumpage at Colin's request.

CDSmith 01-09-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12848465)
Black holes - when you approach a Black hole feet first

I've approached a black hole several times, but never feet first.

I'll have to try it.

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Originally Posted by MrChips (Post 12848465)
go near a black hole and you are fucked - BIG TIME.

On that we can agree. Each and every time I approached it I did get fucked, not only big time but royally.

:D

GigoloMason 01-09-2008 10:22 AM

This thread is so full of fail it makes me giggle.

ADL Colin 01-09-2008 11:43 AM

Back In Black

ADL Colin 01-09-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 1911790)
Am I the only one who'd love to see 12clicks all coked up and off his tree?

It would be just like this thread. With visuals.

12clicks 09-22-2011 02:01 PM

A timely bump

baddog 09-22-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18444947)
A timely bump

I really want to know how the ice cream figured into the equation. But well done.

baddog 09-22-2011 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BOSS1 (Post 9092990)
This might be the most idiotic reasoning I read in a while :helpme
I suggest taking some physics courses at uni....

Thanks for making me feel more educated!

I am tempted to read this entire thread when I have a decent Internet connection, but in the meantime, do you have a rebuttal argument?

Mutt 09-22-2011 02:12 PM

might be a sign of my intellectual laziness but the only thing that piqued my interest in 8 pages of blah blah blah was "Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream"

ilnjscb 09-22-2011 02:20 PM

Einstein was an overhyped idiot. If light has no mass, and travels as a wave, it cannot have an upper limit when traveling through a vacuum.

shade001 09-22-2011 02:23 PM

Congrats on showing how uber fucking stupid the rest of the forum is for incoherently trying to act like they know dick about relativity.

Thumbs up.

tranza 09-22-2011 02:25 PM

Damn, you're way more dumb than I thought!!

12clicks 09-22-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 18445096)
Damn, you're way more dumb than I thought!!

It must suck to have YOUR intelligence and spend 10 years at the bottom rung of the industry:thumbsup

12clicks 09-22-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18444962)
I really want to know how the ice cream figured into the equation. But well done.

It sets a relaxing environment for my intellectual gymnastics.

cykoe6 09-22-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18445000)
might be a sign of my intellectual laziness but the only thing that piqued my interest in 8 pages of blah blah blah was "Ben & Jerry's "coffee heathbar crunch" icecream"

Yea those were the only words I really understood in this thread.


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