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LadyMischief 10-05-2003 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit



No MIDDLE EAST

If you actually do some research into the Islamic religion, you would also see that this is incorrect. Just because SOME people take a hardline extremist Islamic view, they are FAR from indicitive of the rest of the religion. Islam is essentially a religion of peace. It shares many of the policies and prophets of "christian" religions.. in fact, both religions were essentially spearheaded by Abraham. The Koran is not all that different from the bible. Do you think because a few people take it to extremes that everyone there must? Since when are the actions of a few always the indicator of the actions of the many? Most people in the middle east want what everyone wants.. Peace, security.. food on the table, a means to provide for their children. Painting them all with the same brush is not only unfair, it's incredibly shallow and stupid.

nemesis 10-05-2003 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit




If I was developing a picture dictionary, I would put your picture for the definition of American Idiot.

So, you think the iraq is uncivilized for cutting the arms of people for punishment and this gives you right to attack them ?

I wonder what would you think if Germany, a country that do not have capital punishment, attack usa because they find capital punishment very uncivilized and thinks Usa should be dominated for uncivilized practices the country does.

Get a clue bitch

LadyMischief 10-05-2003 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit


The Middle East, as a whole, are against the American culture.

No, that is a huge generalization and again, incorrect. There are a LOT of people who hate the US for some of the shady dealings they've had in the middle east.. Some of the things the US have done out there are deplorable. I would be pissed too if it was me. Do some research. Who do you think trained Osama? And Al Queda? Look it up.

Bladewire 10-05-2003 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Squirtit:



It ain't a "culture" as such.. tis just the witnessing by many of US behavior in many countries..

This ranges from political interferance in otherwise democratically elected governments to the "Americanisation" by corporates who bleed the assets out of countries and all profits are removed to the US. It is a culture of greed, bullying and bribing.

No other country behaves as badly as this internationally.. I dunno why, but looks like it comes from ignorance of others on the planet.

And yes, it has been going on for a long time now.

I did mean culture when I said culture.. yes the political issues you mention are very important as well.. but I'm talking about the American culture.. what we wear, our television shows, etc etc. In the Middle East specifically, because of their strong religious beliefs, they fell we are all living in sin.. etc etc.

Other countries don't like American entertainment constantly bombarding their TV's and radios.. because it Americanizes their society. I know I know... just don't import our media.. I know it's contradictory but this is what other countries think. Don't shoot me just 'cause I'm the messenger :)

Webby 10-05-2003 05:50 PM

Squirtit:

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I agree with you except for one point " in the name of "freedom for women" and other utter BS!"

I didn't say any war was in the name of "freedom for women" . I quoted an example of how their culture is different from ours.
I agree!! :thumbsup

All folks have basic right since the day they were born and no asshole needs to be messing with em!

Iraq, Afghanistan and many other places have ... well.. damned strange "cultures" in comparison to ours. And many we will certainly not agree with.

But that is no reason to, in the instance of Iraq, to "elect" to invade the place and kill thousands of innocent people, cause extreme hardship to others and leave the place in a mess.

There are many problems which have only just began to surface there - like premature births and first signs of other diseases caused by depleted uranium blah. Wait till the guys in the forces get back and start complaining about "The Iraqi War Syndrome".

No asshole purporting to be a "President" needs to permitted to engage in this with a series of lies and deciet in the first instance. The US is "supposed" to be a civilised country - it's past time it displayed some of this and stopped behaving like a spoilt kid.


Hell... the Iraq people were better off under an evil dicatator!

Bladewire 10-05-2003 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


Agree with the culture or not.. it's endured for MILLENIA relatively unchanged... Evidently, cruel or not they are doing something "right". Whereas Western culture is fickle in relation. I definitely do NOT agree with the way they do things over there, but considering that their culture has been around for FAR longer than ours, don't you think if they were going to "influence" us, it would have happened LONG before now? America is a few hundred years old. The middle east is pretty much the birthplace of culture. Superiority is a little silly when you take it all into perspective, isn't it?

I agree with you here.

One point "Superiority is a little silly when you take it all into perspective, isn't it? "

I'm not sure if you're saying their superiority to the U.S or the other way around but I will say that if we don't try, in some way (not necessy militarily) to protect ourselves then we are at risk of others taking over us as we've taken over others in the past.

We are a great power but with the Bush adminstration pushing along the way it has we are being seen by others as trying to dominate the world. This has to stop. Great empires have fallen in the past and I don't want the U.S. to fall. We need to adapt and change our global stratagies to avoid being another USSR or Germany.

Bladewire 10-05-2003 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


No, that is a huge generalization and again, incorrect. There are a LOT of people who hate the US for some of the shady dealings they've had in the middle east.. Some of the things the US have done out there are deplorable. I would be pissed too if it was me. Do some research. Who do you think trained Osama? And Al Queda? Look it up.

It is a generalization but an accurate one. Of course not every individual feels this way. A LOT of people should hate the things we've done to them. I agree. I don't blame them.. but I wont let them destroy my country. And yes I said distroy.. there are many chemical agents and viruses that if unleased could have huge impacts on America. Biological warfare is the least expensive, most effective and compact way to kill individuals.

I don't know if anyone really has the capability yet to hurt the U.S. with biological weapons, creating a big impact, I hope they don't, but know that if they do we are in trouble.

There are many countries that want to teach the U.S. a lesson.

KRL 10-05-2003 05:58 PM

Hahaha, that was gentle. They gave the guy a break and let him live at least.

You obviously have never seen how organized crime families in the United States and every other country of the world deal with thieves.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

<embed src=http://users.ce.net/users/jones/wavs/chainsaw.wav autostart=false>

Chop, chop, chop, chop, chop, . . . .

:thumbsup

Webby 10-05-2003 06:00 PM

Squirtit:

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I'm talking about the American culture.. what we wear, our television shows, etc
I think you will find they kinda like what you wear :glugglug

The problem is ain't that CNN is that bad :Graucho (makes ya wince tho!) - more like the conduct of the government of the US over a long period. They don't hate ya!! More a .. well.. very great hatred, if the actions of 9/11 are a guide, to US foreign policy.

The vast majority of folks have no problem with the US as a country or it's people - they kinda like the place!

Sadly many of these folks have been shit on from a high height in past years. It is not something many will forgive for a long time.

Sorry! Na.. I ain't gonna shoot the messenger!! :Graucho

pauliewalnutz 10-05-2003 06:01 PM

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[i]It is a good thing we dont execute people in the United States. Oh wait... [/B]

people dont get executed for stealing food

:321GFY

KRL 10-05-2003 06:07 PM

Hey next time use autostart=false when you post something that intense so at least people can open the thread before deciding whether or not to view the vid.

Webby 10-05-2003 06:10 PM

pauliewalnutz:

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people dont get executed for stealing food
Na.. don't have to be guilty of anything to get executed there!

Just have a lawyer who likes to sleep at the trial! :1orglaugh

Don't bother going there - the number of States who have halted executions is embarassing.

mmm capital punishement is yet another treaty that was sign by the US and broken. No other civilized country on this planet has executions - stopped that years ago.. ya gotta catch up with the real world soon!

BTW.. Your handle... you associate with your Admin's vermin who actually do need to be executed?

LadyMischief 10-05-2003 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by Squirtit


It is a generalization but an accurate one. Of course not every individual feels this way. A LOT of people should hate the things we've done to them. I agree. I don't blame them.. but I wont let them destroy my country. And yes I said distroy.. there are many chemical agents and viruses that if unleased could have huge impacts on America. Biological warfare is the least expensive, most effective and compact way to kill individuals.

I don't know if anyone really has the capability yet to hurt the U.S. with biological weapons, creating a big impact, I hope they don't, but know that if they do we are in trouble.

There are many countries that want to teach the U.S. a lesson.

You're more worried about what they MIGHT have, but you seem to forget that North Korea has TOLD the world what they have, and that they are QUITE willing to use it. Which seems themore pressing issue? And isn't North Korea a communist country? How is that any better? Communism has been the reason for MANY atrocities in history. Are they to be excused simply because they don't have oil that would make it worth going after them? If people are going to be handing out "lessons", it's time for people to get their priorities straight.

Webby 10-05-2003 06:21 PM

LadyMischief:

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You're more worried about what they MIGHT have, but you seem to forget that North Korea has TOLD the world what they have, and that they are QUITE willing to use it. Which seems themore pressing issue? And isn't North Korea a communist country? How is that any better? Communism has been the reason for MANY atrocities in history. Are they to be excused simply because they don't have oil that would make it worth going after them? If people are going to be handing out "lessons", it's time for people to get their priorities straight.
:thumbsup

Tis the world of demons and dragaons out there - Anything outside Arkansas is a demon! :winkwink:

Wonder why NK would want to attack the US?? Why not Finland?? It would not have anything to do with a diatribe called "The State of the Union" address where the "President" is allowed to tell lies and classify countries into being in an Axis of Evil would it??? :glugglug

No problem tho.. if North Korea does have nuclear capability.. (like the US).. they are safe from attack. :winkwink:

Webby 10-05-2003 06:27 PM

You know... I am beginning to see some posts on GFY are obviously from kids or those of deminished responsibility...

I know a lot of folks in the US who would be embarassed as hell to see the idiotic shit here - these fools are an embarassment to their own country - sad. :uhoh

sexxxychat69 10-05-2003 06:27 PM

That is soooooo fucking disturbing . I think that is the most chocking thing I have ever seen. Any idea what the guy did to deserve that ?

LadyMischief 10-05-2003 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by sexxxychat69
That is soooooo fucking disturbing . I think that is the most chocking thing I have ever seen. Any idea what the guy did to deserve that ?
Theft is an offense punishable by having one hand cut off.. This fellow lost more than that, so I'm assuming he did something pretty awful. Looking at porn is an offense punishable by death by public stoning... Many things there are punished harshly. It's a system that's hard, but it's a hard area of the world to live in.

Pretty awful.. it's been that way for thousands of years though, and I tell you, they have a very low crime rate over there, relatively speaking.

Webby 10-05-2003 06:34 PM

Yep... cutting hands off is usually related to theiving..

He may have been shoplifting - pity that don't apply to fraud of millions elsewhere, it might make em think a bit!

Yea.. tis barbaric stuff!!

Webby 10-05-2003 06:38 PM

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Looking at porn is an offense punishable by death by public stoning...
Sheesh!! I never knew "looking" was an offence! Tho we got the "thinking about" offence in "civilization" - tis called conspiracy! :)

Easton 10-05-2003 06:38 PM

no sound? :(

Bladewire 10-05-2003 06:38 PM

LADYMISCHIEF

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


If you actually do some research into the Islamic religion, you would also see that this is incorrect. Just because SOME people take a hardline extremist Islamic view, they are FAR from indicitive of the rest of the religion. Islam is essentially a religion of peace. It shares many of the policies and prophets of "christian" religions.. in fact, both religions were essentially spearheaded by Abraham. The Koran is not all that different from the bible. Do you think because a few people take it to extremes that everyone there must? Since when are the actions of a few always the indicator of the actions of the many? Most people in the middle east want what everyone wants.. Peace, security.. food on the table, a means to provide for their children. Painting them all with the same brush is not only unfair, it's incredibly shallow and stupid.

When speaking of a region in the world you have to speak in generalities.

" The Koran is not all that different from the bible. "

I haven't read the Koran. I don't want to turn this into a religious discussion.. but I am creating another post specifically for you LadyMischief that will speak of religion. Beware that the video footage of is grusome.. but I want you to read the translation of what these people are saying so you don't argue with me .. they speak for themselves.... the link is here... http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=182864

Warning: This is very graphic video. It was sent by the NMRPS with their demands for the U.S.

Bladewire 10-05-2003 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


You're more worried about what they MIGHT have, but you seem to forget that North Korea has TOLD the world what they have, and that they are QUITE willing to use it. Which seems themore pressing issue? And isn't North Korea a communist country? How is that any better? Communism has been the reason for MANY atrocities in history. Are they to be excused simply because they don't have oil that would make it worth going after them? If people are going to be handing out "lessons", it's time for people to get their priorities straight.

I agree

Webby 10-05-2003 06:41 PM

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I haven't read the Koran. I don't want to turn this into a religious discussion.. but I am creating another post specifically for you LadyMischief that will speak of religion.
Oh hell.. I gotta read the Koran next! :1orglaugh

I'm outta here!!

Peace to all!!

LadyMischief 10-05-2003 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Webby


Oh hell.. I gotta read the Koran next! :1orglaugh

I'm outta here!!

Peace to all!!

It's an interesting book that's for sure.. Read it a few times.. doing some comparitive research. It's VERY remeniscent of the bible, especially the old testament.

Bladewire 10-05-2003 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief


It's an interesting book that's for sure.. Read it a few times.. doing some comparitive research. It's VERY remeniscent of the bible, especially the old testament.

Interesting how tools given to man for betterment become the source of his destruction

fro n gc 11-03-2003 11:39 PM

everyone is entitled to their own oppinion

Speigelau 08-22-2017 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 2482365)

911 should have forced people to take a look at how different we are from other cultures and how they despise the U.S. and want to destroy us.

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I agree.

klinton 08-22-2017 01:37 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

LOL, so refreshing to read it after 14 years.

thanks for bumping and claryfining who standed for which position :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink: :winkwink:

pimpmaster9000 08-22-2017 01:42 AM

yeah you invaded iraq because WAR INC is too big to fail and saddam has oil...500.000 people died in rwanda in a few days but nobody lifted a jet...spare me the humanitarian dribble LOL

OneHungLo 08-22-2017 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21965311)
I agree.

Hellava bump lol.

Bump crucifissio's "beating the muslims and forcing them into the mountains" thread for good measure.

klinton 08-22-2017 02:37 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink::winkwink:
and also because it was point of interest to Israel + few other reasons
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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21965317)
yeah you invaded iraq because WAR INC is too big to fail and saddam has oil...500.000 people died in rwanda in a few days but nobody lifted a jet...spare me the humanitarian dribble LOL


klinton 08-22-2017 02:38 AM

he was talking about radicals that want to live by Sharia law AFAIR
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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21965353)

Bump crucifissio's "beating the muslims and forcing them into the mountains" thread for good measure.


pimpmaster9000 08-22-2017 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21965353)
Hellava bump lol.

Bump crucifissio's "beating the muslims and forcing them into the mountains" thread for good measure.

stay desperate LOL

Bladewire 08-22-2017 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21965311)
I agree.

My opinion hasn't cganged. That doesn't mean kill Americanized Muslims, or those who want to be Americanized. A lot of people go along with shit because they're forced to in their society, not because they agree with it or want to.

My view is same 14 years later, get the good people out of the ME and "nuke" the goat fuckers. OnehungLo makes me repeat this at least once a week :321GFY

Bladewire 08-22-2017 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 21965353)
Bump crucifissio's "beating the muslims and forcing them into the mountains" thread for good measure.

Does that one include the Gay rape in government buildings? 💦🍆😂

Barry-xlovecam 08-22-2017 06:42 AM

And this did not work out well -- did it?

And now Trump says Afghanistan will be ours ... after 17 years of limited warfare and over $1 TRILLION SPENT! ...


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