most entertaining thread in a looooong time ! :thumbsup

Mandy is my real name
I no longer use midwestmandy

I know that this isn't the best way of going about it..
but i have been trying nicely for a LONG time.

I'm not trying to be the defenseless model.
I could care less if i never took another nude pic in my life

I have a degree to go back on, and good GRE scores..
I'm just trying to expose what they did to me...
but maybe i'm just preaching to the wrong crowd...

ps--- another company is paying for the attorney =)

LOL Let her get what she can get. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Good for her! :1orglaugh

Imagine that. :glugglug

There is your ace in the whole Brett and company. Find the company that is pushing her in this direction and sue them then sue her. If you have an exclusive... which you do, you now have two places to collect money from. I know i should have. I was nice and let it go, but i would not recomend that route for anyone else.

Thanks for the info Mandy... youre a bright one for sure. Better talk to your Lawyer.

It sure would be interesting to see the contract. Seems to me the best thing for all parties at this point would be to simply terminate the contract. Yes litigation can be expensive, but it will be just as expensive for the plaintiff, and in this case and it appears we have a judgement proof defendant on the other end. She has a very simple and legal way out of the contract if she wants it. If her financial situation is as dire as she puts it (not enough to cover rent) all she has to do is file chapter 7 bankruptcy and the contract is over, and there wouldn?t be anything that could be done about it.

Bank of Joel Reyes by chance?

sue me for what?? LOL
how about those rent bills
they can have those...lol

~mandy~

so why model in the first place if you couldnt even pay your rent?

Ummm if I have to tell you....ummm ask your sugar daddy.

:1orglaugh

Sure it wasn't GED ?

Forget about if they can collect or not....Go back and read Gregs post.

You know as much about legal matters as you do about running your own website.

Hey...Mary34D has something like 62 degrees, a masters in cocksucking, and a doctrine in God knows what....Yet her mommy still supports her.

the only ones making the money will be the sponsors> MODELS will never make alot unless they are webmastering there own site or there booking alot of shoots before everything starts to sag then again there is a niche for everything.

:1orglaugh

I suggest she go see a bankruptcy attorney if she wants out. If she files they have no recourse against her and the contract is over. If she shops around she can probably get the whole deal done for $500 -$750 tops.

I think the models should get the biggest cut. I pay my girls 60% of all revenues generated and I pay web related expenses out of my end.

yeah, because taking your clothes off and modeling is much harder than running a program. dorm bucks pays 65% to affiliates. they would be 25% in the hole before processing and hosting and other fees with your payment structure.

if a model signs a contract for $250 a month and shes worth more, then thats her own damn fault if she doesnt get more.

Maybe your attorney should point out that you are using the name "Midwest Mandy" each time you post?

You got that right Steve!

I wonder what kind of attorney You got, letting You "cry out" like this, that's not helping Your case, sweety!!

The Man has a point here

You would have somebody put a 10 year scar on their credit record over this? Are you a fucking retard or something?

Unless Mandy has $50,000+ worth of debt that she can not repay then that would be a huge mistake at this point in her life. :2 cents:

GEDs... no hunnie...

i graduated HS with a 4.0 and 26 college credits...
i ran through college on a full ride, not in cock-sucking...
which is not on the site, but is one of my specialities =) jk

i could care less what happens. they had my notice of quitting.
if anything, people can hold the content if they're that worried..
cause there's a time limit on the year contract, which was signed...
i believe in May??

screw it all...
back to Behavioral Neuroscience =)

see ya'll in less than a year at worst =)
xoxo
~mandy~

Keep thinking like that and your business will not grow very much.

lol :1orglaugh

yeah... hmmm...
no one the bankruptcy thing...
i have purrfect credit...

A college graduate and for the second time in this thread she has used the term:

"I could care less."

Back in grade school, they taught us the following:

"I couldn't care less."

Maybe I just went to a fucked up school though. :glugglug

Ummmm that business model does not work. hahahaha!

But good luck with that.

That was funny, sorry, but very funny.


Maybe we shoud talk solo site operation economics sometimes. I got some VALUABLE information for ya.

once i asked them for a raise..

and they offered 1% more!
gee... that doesnt quite sound like 60%...
not even close...lol

just proof that for some people graduating college does nothing more than give them something to hang on their wall.

If she has no assets, suing her for anything other than not complying with her current contract would be pointless. For anything to hit her credit record, or for her to file bankruptcy while having no assets is just a waste of time and money.

Obviously the relationship between model and producer has broken down. The guys at DormBucks took the higher road by not opening up and letting out the details from there side, which as par for them, is respectful. As professional as I have seen the guys at DormBucks ever present themselves, I have no doubt they will work to a favorable conclusion with you Mandy. There is a lot to running a website like yours, and it may come as a surprise to you that what you thought you could make is far less than what occured. Give the guys the benefit of the doubt before you try to further publicy front them out for something that should have stayed between you and them and off the boards.

Change your major to common sense if it's not to late.

any educated person would realize that nobody would want to pay and shoot a model based on the condition that they must release it a later date of up to a year from now.

stop fantasizing about what you think is going to happen cause in all honesty... it probably won't. best to move on, forget about it and find yourself another way to make money.

thats pretty good consider after affiliate payout and processing they only get like 20-25%. not to mention all their other costs.

Actually Aaron

"I could care less" is accurate.

It implys that she cares. One would have to guess quite a bit actually. Otherwise she wouldn't have started this thread and continued to post in it despite the kind suggestions of a few people that she refrain from commenting on the subject any further.

It isn?t much of a scar anymore. You can buy a house, car or anything else. A typical bankrupt gets 20-30 pre-approved credit card offers two months after filing. These are unsecured and often at a lower interest rate than the cards they filed on. 20 years ago it was a scar nowadays it isn?t. I am not saying she should or should not do it. I don?t know her situation, but it certainly is an option for her and one that will get her out of the contract.

I do fine, thank you!

only 250 a month??

Its unfortunate that every site doesn't make everyone involved a millionaire. Its hard to say what will work and what won't before you try. Giving the model 60% is great, until you realize that you can't effectively market the site for your 40% share unless you have deep pockets.

We are happy to make a 20% PROFIT from any website, after processing, hosting, affiliates, marketing, legal, etc --- splitting the profits with the model 50/50 is fair. That works out to about 10% of the gross. If its done correctly, everyone can make good money. Some sites fail, and the blame is hard to place or accept.

Any model who gets a percentage deal should be thankful for anything above 20%.

No offense meant, I understand that models are important, but they are also a dime a dozen in most cases. Finding somebody who knows how to build, maintain, and successfully promote a pay site is priceless.

I've had models under exclusive contracts that stated a specific figure that they were paid PER SHOOT. Fuck giving up a percentage of my hard work and years of investing in networking and education to somebody who can be replaced so quickly and easily.

Treat the models nicely, pay them a fair market price per shoot, and if things really work out well?Give them a kickback just to be nice.

Harsh but true.

Mandy... some really honest advice here.

Walk away from the computer. Pick up the phone and call Brett or Tim and either work it out or walk away. You are not doing yourself any favors and you are digging yoruself a bigger hole with every post.

I could not me more sincere... shut off your computer and either work it out on the phone or seeks some legit legal advice. Either way I think you have burnt your bridges here.

Seen this happen before... it happned hardcore to me and I let it happen. I am not going to let things like this happen to friends of my by a stary eyed model and an oppurtunistic webmaster.

alright kids..
i'm out to the bars..
i think i'll need a stiff drink after all of this

you'll be seeing more of me before you know it =)


xoxo
~mandy~

ps- degree in psych and chem... not english =)
but you could try German

Tschuss!

It's still a scar, take it from someone who went and still is going through it (tail end of it mind you). If you really think you can get a CC and especially a lower rate, santa claus and the tooth fairy will be stopping by later with a credit application.

I do fine! Been doin' fine for six years!

$250 a month!? Wow... want to relocate to Canada... You would be submitting galleries and making me my morning coffee everyday.. I'll pay you $300 + a place to stay... :Graucho :frenchman

p.s. if you do well.. I'll promote you to vice president of the company ..!

Well... I will take your word for it.

:winkwink:

This goes to show you just how worthless college degrees are.

Mandy - Why do you link to the site in your profile?

I don't know any of these people personally and therefore don't much care, but if I remember from my school days correctly, any contract that deprives a signee of a livelihood is invalid.

i.e. if she makes her living from modeling then she can model, regardless of any agreement. Especially if her current contract wasn't providing her with a reasonable wage.

as opposed to your great success sending webmasters to somebody else's program in your sig.