150 Threads that should have died long ago...

You're right. That's so far from successful that I would personally be embarrassed to admit it if I were you.

I know a guy in Portland who brags to people about how successful he is. He has at least 2 room mates and between the 3 of them, they still have difficulty paying their rent. His site brings him a whopping $400.00 per month.

To some people, making beer money is considered success.

not if she hires me... :Graucho But seriously.. couple of listings on Thumb TGPs.. and watch her site saturate the web.. Next-door-nikki started like that.. katesplayground also.. But ofcourse.. the girl need to be super hot...

Maybe if you could make that sig font a little bigger and a brighter shade of yellow I will remember it next time

So damn true that he had to sign it twice! :winkwink:

Seriously though......Steve is dead nuts on.

maybe I'll just get my html guy to fix it up tomorrow. I can't be bothered :)

Can we all have a group hug now? :thumbsup

Steves right... as always.

There is only one Tawnee and she is in the top for paid models. There might be one more in that area, but for the long haul... tawness has been bankin! She has Steve and crew to thank for that lifestyle. She would not have done this on her own.

Just so I am clear. A cute model comes to you and say's Hey will you build me a site? YOU are willing to take care of All expenses AND you will run and manage the site Just as long as the site is exclusive to you for the 1st month?


After the 1st month your going to continue to take care of all the bills and Run it and update it. At which point she she can hope that other affiliates sign up and promote this site. Meanwhile your doing this all for nothing ?

Who's paying the server bill on this hot new site? who paid for processing. Who is paying the small fee to the people you know to shoot the content? Oh and when does your Fee for running the site start to kick in?



Dedicated people who run self contained sites like Alley and jake , Newbreed and Arika, Sammy and Brett are not the norm. They are the exception.

Look at your Sig. That site is successful because of the company that created it and pushed it. And once again that is the exception to the rule.

Actually, that's exactly what I did when I was 18-19 and I made a VERY pretty penny :2 cents: But then again, it was 1998-1999 when this occurred, and money practically grew on trees back then (for me at least). Also, I'd like to think that I'm a bit smarter than the avg content model out there, lol. But that is neither here nor there.

Having said all that, paying a model 50 of NET is just plain ludicrous if all she is doing is stripping off her clothes and showing off her pretty little pussy for the camera on a monthly basis. Even if she IS extremely involved with the running of the site on a daily basis, 20 of NET is more than generous, IMO. Sorry Mandy, but modeling is the EASY part of this business. I've done both (modeling and webmastering), and I know this first hand.

Exactly!

Its a nice thought, but it will never happen.

Mandy may win the XBOX thread of the week :1orglaugh

I seem to recall somebody making a similar post in this thread.

Right on CC. :thumbsup

Not gonna happen.

Trust me.....I know these things. :glugglug

Not a hobby! I'm a two career man. I do VERY well at both.

LOL, that's what happens when you skim threads :) Back to wasting time over at Yahoo Games for me, lol.

Define "VERY well." :1orglaugh

We could go around on this one all night. :glugglug

Impressive... really! You are the exception and you should be applauded.


Yep.. you are right. We are just paying models by the hour now. We might do revshare again, but as you said... 20% is very very good.

Thanks CC! Great post!

Great thread :thumbsup

Hey...I was not knocking you for posting it. I was commending you for your similar viewpoints.

Post your sites and program. We will know in 5 minutes if what you are saying is fact. So far we have seen nothing.

No reason not to buy your story except for your lack of information.

all expenses? look.. give me a site like KatesPlayground, Tawnee stone, etc.. exclusive for 1 month at 100% (minus ccbill %) and I can easily make between $10k to $15 profits out of it.,.. thats minus ALL the expenses... Once other webmaster start massively to promote her site... she'll have NO problem paying her expenses... which will not be that high to tell you the truth...


And btw.. thats 1 scenario... Another scenario is If a very cute model that know the biz.. is smart and know what she want and offer me a partnership.. a real one.. like 50/50.. i'll jump on it...

Maybe Mandy will win herself an Xbox for this or something!

You're a little prick, aren't you? I make a hell of a lot more than $400.00 a month. I just don't have to have a ferrari in my garage. I make enough to make me happy. Do I want to make more? sure! But I'm not so greedy that I'll fuck my girls over to do it!

Right into the front theeths

and to add to this great post:
who's going to pay for all costs associated with getting the business setup(licensing, etc.)? What happens when your wondergirl flakes out or disappears 1.5 months into the project and you don't have enough content shot ahead of time to keep the sites freshly updated?

The hard, cold reality of this business is that models are replaceable, far more so than promoters, coders and designers. Getting a girl to take her clothes of for money is easy, getting someone who can make the servers run right, the scripts run without malfunctions and deal with customer as well as affiliate stress are worth their weight in gold.

Let me be the first to say congratulations.

Success is a relative term. You will be hard pressed to find an objective standard of success. I'm glad you are doing well.

Gotcha :)

Why thank you ;) I'm really just a computer nerd with big boobs and a cute face, lol.

Thanks! The bottom line is that the program owner gets to decide how he or she wants to operate his or her own business (obviously). It's the model's responsibility to read contracts *carefully* and do what they think is in their own best interests.

Interesting thread, to say the least.

You misread my initial post.. im not talking about a model.. but a webmaster model that would own the site.. if the girl wants to quit after 3 months.. I wont like it but I would have made some very nice profit out of the experience... And keep im mind that im not talking about any kind of girl.. but a real hot one... AudreyLive would be nice.. :) j/k

20% of net is theft! The webmaster isn't the one who has to stick a cock in his mouth and take the facial. The girls drive the indusrty. They should get the better cut. That's why I pay my girls 60% of NET!

Damn... here in LA models work for about $250 for a quarter of an hour for HC.

LMAO.. I'm not about to read this whole thread, but this seriously had me rolling on the floor. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Almost a GFY version of those pricless commercials.

Ok..... "Captain Save A Hoe"..... you go right ahead and save the world... one model at a time... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuck... you outted me. SSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

It's O'Dooles money.

$250.00 an hour here in the midwest. Not moving to LA anytime soon... thats for sure. :)

http://www.meloncash.com/

I've done really well with it. Believe me or don't believe me!

if she's already a webmaster model, why would she need you...
remember, this thread wasn't started by a webmaster model, this thread was started by content. Granted, she was the content for a site that bore her name. I'm not personally attacking her, but it is just a reality that those behind the camera will make more than those in front.

but, if she quits after 3 months, doesn't that leave you stuck with your traffic trades, affiliates and customers that have paid up to that point? How are you going to handle them?

I want to beleive you.


Youre revshare so 60% of "net" is just shy of 10% of gross on your avarage solo site. Soooo you pay exactly what the rest of us pay. You are not offering them a penny more then we are paying.

Please, get over yourself.

So let me get this straight...you pay your models 60...and you pay your webmasters 50 . I'm not trying to be rude, but something just does not add up. I mean, do you really think that you as the webmaster are worth so little?

They're human beings and deserve respect, fucktard!

You already know the answer to that.

We already know the answer to that.

You're nitpicking.

60% of NET

No, what I was doing was fucking up, but I got it know, lol. He pays webmasters 50 of gross and models 60 of net (so says he)....possible, but just pretty ridiculous.

why not 95% ?

Read my post above Captian! Here.. I will move it down here for you.

Youre revshare so 60% of "net" is just shy of 10% of gross on your avarage solo site. Soooo you pay exactly what the rest of us pay. You are not offering them a penny more then we are paying.

Get over yourself Captian Save A Hoe! hahaha

*Runs through thread waving a double-headed dildo around*

*whack!*

Oops. Sorry about that.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You're cracking me up over here :thumbsup Detective PG to the rescue!

Ibill pays my affiliates. I pay the girls 60% of what's left over!

You can make the % whatever the fuck you want as long you include terms that balance the effect.

By the same token, not all 50/50 RevShare's are equal. Some keep 100% of the exit traffic. Some don't have pop-ups at all.