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CamChicks 09-03-2004 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! :Graucho ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.

We don't need a pro-porn President or a pro-porn Attorney General; we just need people who respect the 1st Ammendment. We just need rational leaders who do not govern based on religious doctrines. Ditto for the Supreme Court Justices they appoint. All the adult industry needs is to be NOT persecuted. A politican simply NOT being aggressively ANTI-porn is good enough.

Janet Reno did not neglect to prosecute "obscenity" because she loved porn, she didn't prosecute because she knew those resources could be better spent fighting real crimes with real victims. John Kerry wouldn't win a single vote crusading against porn, because mainstream americans aren't bothered by porn, and the radical conservatives still care more about making abortion illegal and forcing prayer in school, so they're not going to support a pro-choice secularist.

Doc911 09-03-2004 01:27 PM

Thanks Lensman the FSC appreiciates the pin.

CDSmith 09-03-2004 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by joshuawk
presidents are elected by the electoral college no?

what the fuck is voting going to do besides giving the elite
statistics on how to further their massive population control.

its like filling out a fucking survey for a giant corporation so they
can make more money off you.

voting is bullshit.

Oh jeez.
Hammerhead alert. http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/hammer.gif

MissMina 09-03-2004 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Jeffery Douglas (my lawyer) heads up the FSC :)

Webmasters NEED TO BE more proactive. In the last four years we saw a war with Iraq (a stated enemy of the Bush administration) - give Bush and his cronies another 4 years and you will see the War on Porn (a stated enemy of the Bush administration).

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!

I'll drink to that! :Graucho I have never voted before but I'm going to go register so I can cast my vote. DEFOLIATE BUSH!

Sly_RJ 09-03-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joshuawk
presidents are elected by the electoral college no?

what the fuck is voting going to do besides giving the elite
statistics on how to further their massive population control.

its like filling out a fucking survey for a giant corporation so they
can make more money off you.

voting is bullshit.

You obviously don't know how the voting system works, do you?

MissMina 09-03-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by RevSand
Already sporting the link on my main page....

:thumbsup

Good idea!!:thumbsup

kenny 09-03-2004 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jeppe
Could it get any worse?
It's not going to get any better..

There is no evidence that supports any party benifiting this industry.

What I see is pure speculation that in my opinion is not a realistic approach.

Clinton didn't help
Bush isn't helping
Kerry will not help

Don't get me wrong.. I wish it was as easy as voting for somebody.. but that simply isn't the case

MissMina 09-03-2004 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Sammy4u
I have registered to vote for the first time ever and I plan on doing what I can.
Same here :)

xxxdesign-net 09-03-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Exactly. This is a weak response. How about file a lawsuit against the gov't to stop implementation?

Those who think voting for Kerry will give online pornographers a pass are IGNORANT.

There is no pro-porn politician ( maybe Clinton! :Graucho ) All politicians will sacrifice this industry if it would mean extra votes.


only one party has a powerful conservative base putting EXTREME pressure on them..... Republicans also put conservative judges in the supreme court...

Corona 09-03-2004 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeppe
Could it get any worse?
Yes. Think Chief Justice Clarence Thomas.

woj 09-03-2004 01:46 PM

50, :thumbsup

pxxx 09-03-2004 01:58 PM

Thanks for the find Lens.:thumbsup

jimmyf 09-03-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Oh jeez.
Hammerhead alert. http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/hammer.gif

:thumbsup

jimmyf 09-03-2004 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
It's not going to get any better..

There is no evidence that supports any party benifiting this industry.

What I see is pure speculation that in my opinion is not a realistic approach.

Clinton didn't help
Bush isn't helping
Kerry will not help

Don't get me wrong.. I wish it was as easy as voting for somebody.. but that simply isn't the case


very very true:thumbsup

Garou 09-03-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay

Get out and VOTE and if you plan on voting for Bush STAY HOME!

:thumbsup

xxxjay 09-03-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
It's not going to get any better..

There is no evidence that supports any party benifiting this industry.

What I see is pure speculation that in my opinion is not a realistic approach.

Clinton didn't help
Bush isn't helping
Kerry will not help

Don't get me wrong.. I wish it was as easy as voting for somebody.. but that simply isn't the case

You are an IDIOT.

Sure no party will HELP the insustry, but I know at least ONE PARTY with a RELIGIOUS MORAL AGENDA and a zealot AG whose aim it is to take down our industry.

I wish I could just punch all you Bush supporters in the face one good time -- you deserve it.

jimmyf 09-03-2004 02:17 PM

you people think this little war that John Asshat has or is going 2 have going on with the porn Ind. is going away if Kerry gets elected???

Think again all of'em are a bunch of scum bags. So don't get you hopes up.

What are you all going 2 do if Kerry comes out, anti porn in one of his speach's. :Graucho

Myself I like my odds with Bush, no ideal what Kerry might try, none at all, the man is all over the place on every other issue.

Samantha_Luvcox 09-03-2004 02:17 PM

We have added it to our front page. :)

titmowse 09-03-2004 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Corona
Yes. Think Chief Justice Clarence Thomas.
or Antonin Scalia

:helpme

piker 09-03-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by digi
It wonder what would happend if all major TGP's urged their surfers to register and vote to protect the free porn.. :Graucho
Yes, because in the eyes of most surfers FREE PORN is the only thing that matters.. Let's not worry about terrorist, economies, jobs, healthcare, social security.. etc

All that matters is FREE PORN...

riosluts 09-03-2004 02:23 PM

hey when is the election date exactly?

Lensman 09-03-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
you people think this little war that John Asshat has or is going 2 have going on with the porn Ind. is going away if Kerry gets elected???

Think again all of'em are a bunch of scum bags. So don't get you hopes up.

What are you all going 2 do if Kerry comes out, anti porn in one of his speach's. :Graucho

Myself I like my odds with Bush, no ideal what Kerry might try, none at all, the man is all over the place on every other issue.

I don't think Kerry is going to have an atty general that covers up the "Spirit of Justice" statue.

http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/AshcroftDrape/1.asp

Raven 09-03-2004 02:31 PM

Spreadin' the word.

MissMiranda 09-03-2004 02:42 PM

I have added it to my paysite and I also plan on adding it to various yahoo groups i have.

:)

kenny 09-03-2004 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
You are an IDIOT.

Sure no party will HELP the insustry, but I know at least ONE PARTY with a RELIGIOUS MORAL AGENDA and a zealot AG whose aim it is to take down our industry.

I wish I could just punch all you Bush supporters in the face one good time -- you deserve it.

What the fuck ever dude..

I am only pointing out that speculating a more liberal party will make it better for porn is weak.

There is zero evidence that the way any political party works will help porn.

It never has and I am assuming it never will

I am not supporting any political party based on this cause because there is no stance

xxxjay 09-03-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
What the fuck ever dude..

I am only pointing out that speculating a more liberal party will make it better for porn is weak.

There is zero evidence that the way any political party works will help porn.

It never has and I am assuming it never will

I am not supporting any political party based on this cause because there is no stance

I really want to beat you up. Beside the obvious porn thing...

Happy he lowered taxes? Give him 4 more years and he will lower your taxes a shitload because he will shut this industry down...you can't tax any % of zero.

Has he made the world safer?

No. In fact we are less safe. He has polarized the hatred of all who oppose us to an all time high. Al Queda is a complex system of underworld cells that had NO basis in Iraq. Look at all the time and resources that have been wasted in Iraq when we could have been dismantling the real threat ? Al Queda! Not to mention that because we have occupied Iraq tens of thousand of civilians over there have died in our air strikes, hundreds of Americans soldiers are dead, and 24 people have been executed because of our occupation. Yet Bin Laden and his organization continue to live on and all this crap in Iraq didn?t amount to shit ? they didn?t even find the WOMD that Bush claimed they had.

Iraq was all about settling a debt for daddy and oil.

The war in Iraq is the equivalent of having some guy punch you in the face at a bar, but instead of punching him back, you walk over to a bar across the street, smack around a bunch of guys over there, but that guy who punched you is still there.

Did he stop 9/11? No. Bill Clinton told Bush that Bin Laden was threat #1 and he was ignored.

Is the economy great? No.

Jobs? Nope.

Deficit? Through the roof.

Dependence on foreign oil? At an all time high.

What about our civil liberty? Getting stripped away by the second.

It?s obvious the threat he is to this industry.

But, hey, our taxes are A LITTLE BIT LOWER?

WOO-HA ? That lower taxes thing appeals the lowest common denominator and lowest intelligence. If you think we should sacrifice all of that for a measly tax cut?

YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING MORON!

George Bush is dangerous, incompetent, stupid, and NEEDS TO BE REMOVED!

kenny 09-03-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
I really want to beat you up. Beside the obvious porn thing...

Happy he lowered taxes? Give him 4 more years and he will lower your taxes a shitload because he will shut this industry down...you can't tax any % of zero.

Has he made the world safer?

No. In fact we are less safe. He has polarized the hatred of all who oppose us to an all time high. Al Queda is a complex system of underworld cells that had NO basis in Iraq. Look at all the time and resources that have been wasted in Iraq when we could have been dismantling the real threat ? Al Queda! Not to mention that because we have occupied Iraq tens of thousand of civilians over there have died in our air strikes, hundreds of Americans soldiers are dead, and 24 people have been executed because of our occupation. Yet Bin Laden and his organization continue to live on and all this crap in Iraq didn?t amount to shit ? they didn?t even find the WOMD that Bush claimed they had.

Iraq was all about settling a debt for daddy and oil.

The war in Iraq is the equivalent of having some guy punch you in the face at a bar, but instead of punching him back, you walk over to a bar across the street, smack around a bunch of guys over there, but that guy who punched you is still there.

Did he stop 9/11? No. Bill Clinton told Bush that Bin Laden was threat #1 and he was ignored.

Is the economy great? No.

Jobs? Nope.

Deficit? Through the roof.

Dependence on foreign oil? At an all time high.

What about our civil liberty? Getting stripped away by the second.

It?s obvious the threat he is to this industry.

But, hey, our taxes are A LITTLE BIT LOWER?

WOO-HA ? That lower taxes thing appeals the lowest common denominator and lowest intelligence. If you think we should sacrifice all of that for a measly tax cut?

YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKING MORON!

George Bush is dangerous, incompetent, stupid, and NEEDS TO BE REMOVED!

Excuse me..

I simply made a statement that no political party is going to help online porn.

For some reason you want to post a bunch of negative things about Bush..

Who is the moron now? You fucking idiot.

kenny 09-03-2004 03:11 PM

Bush or Kerry vote for whoever you want..

I am only saying that the person who gets elected will have little impact on 2257 and issues with online porn in general.

One can speculate otherwise but in the end it's still mere speculation.

Thats all I have to say about this matter.

Morphius 09-03-2004 03:11 PM

Thank you :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

xxxjay 09-03-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Bush or Kerry vote for whoever you want..

I am only saying that the person who gets elected will have little impact on 2257 and issues with online porn in general.

One can speculate otherwise but in the end it's still mere speculation.

Thats all I have to say about this matter.

Kenny - who do you think has a bigger hard-on to take this biz down -- an right wing zealot AG who spends 8k of taxpayer money to put a drape on the bare breast lady justice or the AG of an admitted liberal?

God, I would like to break your nose.

Tom_PMs 09-03-2004 03:37 PM

Indeed. The question has never been "which party will help our industry?". It's more along the lines of which do we know will hurt our industry?

To put it another way, would you rather have a constant negative quantity, or an unknown quantity with a history of essentially looking the other way?

I'll go for unknown because even a worst case scenario equals what we have now. And a non-worse case scenario equals something not as bad as we have now.

Those are great odds.

kenny 09-03-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
Kenny - who do you think has a bigger hard-on to take this biz down -- an right wing zealot AG who spends 8k of taxpayer money to put a drape on the bare breast lady justice or the AG of an admitted liberal?

God, I would like to break your nose.

I say it's irrelevant provided the track record of all political stances regarding online porn.

Thats where I stand believe that you will..

And please stop with the childish remarks of "punching" me and what not

I wouldn't mind if you said it to my face.. but please not on a message board

kenny 09-03-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Indeed. The question has never been "which party will help our industry?". It's more along the lines of which do we know will hurt our industry?

To put it another way, would you rather have a constant negative quantity, or an unknown quantity with a history of essentially looking the other way?

I'll go for unknown because even a worst case scenario equals what we have now. And a non-worse case scenario equals something not as bad as we have now.

Those are great odds.


Thats a good perspective.. well better then most


Still the fact remands that there really isn't no political party thats going to do anything but cause harm to online porn.

Online porn is associated with to many bad things. To many people are agaisnt it when it comes to a political stance.. It's a safe bet to be anti-porn in politics.

It's really unfortunate as most online porn is legit buisness providing a honest service.

You can thank people like spammers and child porn peddlers for the general bad reputation of online porn

xxxjay 09-03-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny


I wouldn't mind if you said it to my face.. but please not on a message board

Hopefully I will see you at a show sometime - asshole.

crowkid 09-03-2004 04:02 PM

Voting for Bush, despite what the haters say, will have nothing to do with our business. In fact, many hate to admit it, but most of us who are well off, are even banking more since Bush has been in office? Name 1 thing he or his administration has done that has effected your business negatively? You can't can you? Didn't think so...

Stop trying to brainwash people in here, if you hate Bush, you hate Bush, just say it. Don't go around spitting lies just to scare people to vote democratic... Below is proof that Bush's own evil Supreme Court rejects any type of laws that would hurt us..

Proof

Tom_PMs 09-03-2004 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
Thats a good perspective.. well better then most


Still the fact remands that there really isn't no political party thats going to do anything but cause harm to online porn.

Online porn is associated with to many bad things. To many people are agaisnt it when it comes to a political stance.. It's a safe bet to be anti-porn in politics.

It's really unfortunate as most online porn is legit buisness providing a honest service.

You can thank people like spammers and child porn peddlers for the general bad reputation of online porn

Yes, but see.. it really does come down to a known stance versus an unknown stance. We may not know who is best for us, but we know who has demonstrated they are bad for us.

It's like so many things.. It's like fishing. You can throw a lure for 10 hours and get nothing but bad results. Thats when you throw *anything* else because you sure know what doesnt work, lol.

There was a time when anything related to pot was an automatic knock-out blow. But now people dont much care. In fact, you'll probably get more votes if you got stoned once when you were a kid. Shows you're real.

Porn is like that too. So many more people go and rent movies, or buy online memberships than even a few years ago.. It's not exactly taboo. If anything, it's certainly moving more towards being "normal" than "abnormal". So I would not presume that everyone will carry on with the current ultra-strict morality that comes off this bunch..
Dressing the statue was the most unreal, amazing thing I've ever seen... I keep asking, whats next? All women must wear skirts down to the ankles? I mean honestly.. It's just backwards, not "conservative" it's "preservative" Preserving a time long long gone from reality.. it's so contrary to the way our society is moving.. it really shouldnt be allowed to continue..

Joe Citizen 09-03-2004 04:13 PM

Communists!

wyldblyss 09-03-2004 04:14 PM

Too bad I live in Canada and can't vote. I urge all webmasters to vote...every single one counts.

baddog 09-03-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Nothing against FSC or any organization that steps in to help, but your best chance is consulting your lawyers and doing what they tell you.
exactly

baddog 09-03-2004 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Actually...Your best chance is consulting an attorney who knows WTF they are talking about
well, that is a given . . . seems like several are out there just trying to drum up business without having a clear understanding, or a very twisted interpretation


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