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studio 01-17-2005 10:13 AM

dudus, Care to put your money where your mouth is?

Varius 01-17-2005 10:14 AM

Now here is something interesting to add:

In school once, we had to flip a coin and record the heads or tails (do this 500 times). Results came out almost even (I think it was 48% and 52%). Now it is possible one or the other could have came up much more than the other, since each flip is individual odds.

ie. heads could have come up 50 times in a row, but as I remember it didnt. I just tried now in 10 times, got heads 6 tails 4. The most that came up was heads 3 times in a row.

Anyhow just adding this to the thread, I know it still doesnt make the above have any better odds to win heh ;p

dudus 01-17-2005 10:16 AM

Damn right I'd put my money there - u gotta show that it has a statistical edge. Blackjack, with work and a team - yes.l Roulette - no no no

Dalai lama 01-17-2005 10:17 AM

he's right

studio 01-17-2005 10:18 AM

How much do you want to loose?

dudus 01-17-2005 10:19 AM

your shout big fella

studio 01-17-2005 10:25 AM

Dudus, How much traffic could you send my site if I win? Maybe we can bet my money against your traffic? I'd rather have your traffic than your money...

DarkJedi 01-17-2005 10:25 AM

BTW, it's called the Martingale System. Google it.

dudus 01-17-2005 10:26 AM

common dude post the damn thing. Not trying to piss on you, I love running stats on gambling strategies - haven't done it for ages so I got blue balls here!

dudus 01-17-2005 10:28 AM

Gotta say my traffic sucks was doing $9k per month on Google until the algo changed in Sept now fucking zilch - I just log in for a laugh now and again.

BVF 01-17-2005 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius
I have no idea why, but I woke up thinking about roulette (a game I never played).

I opened this thread with interest until I read this first sentence and I knew not to read any farther....Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago and I've actually played Roulette. So I won't even bother reading your strategy.

And whatever strategy you offered would be cancelled if you hit one of the green zero slots, therefore cancelling any even money bets with red or black that you may have thought up in your head.

And by the way, 50 Roulette suckers.

dudus 01-17-2005 10:29 AM

I worked with Martingale a bit on pricing derivatives - will do some work on it and post back in this thread

studio 01-17-2005 10:30 AM

I will tell you this, the system uses the odds of the board to achive that samething as the Martingale System... Only you are not doubeling your bet every time...

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat
On the long run you will lose. With or without a table limit.A matter of mathematiacs and odds.

lol thats not true at all

with an unlimited bankroll and no table limit, there is no chance you will lose......on a fair wheel.......

DarkJedi 01-17-2005 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studio
I will tell you this, the system uses the odds of the board to achive that samething as the Martingale System... Only you are not doubeling your bet every time...

If your system really worked, you woudn't be posting here now.

studio 01-17-2005 10:39 AM

Ok, Just for my GFY friends... Here is the Deal... If 50 of you will agree to join my program and promote my site pineapplepink.com for a month to see how it does for you. I will put the system on a webpage and share it with all that agree to promote my site.

Start a list in this thread...

Varius 01-17-2005 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
I opened this thread with interest until I read this first sentence and I knew not to read any farther....Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago and I've actually played Roulette. So I won't even bother reading your strategy.

And whatever strategy you offered would be cancelled if you hit one of the green zero slots, therefore cancelling any even money bets with red or black that you may have thought up in your head.

And by the way, 50 Roulette suckers.

Well in a way, the same idea could be applied to other games. I never played roulette and probably never will, but let's take blackjack.

Now unless you are a bad player, you can normally win one hand in five. Out of all the blackjack I've played, I've never lost more than 3 hands in a row. OFCOURSE it is possible, just it's never happened to me.

So, assuming table limits allow it, if you use the same idea I wrote, you will come out a winner in BJ too.

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 10:42 AM

Quote:

Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago
hahahaha this made me laugh so much...... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

that probably isnt the reason why it wont work

dudus 01-17-2005 10:42 AM

Martingale systems I googled seem just basic double ups - not generated processes...

Problem for roulette is that the Expected Value (EV) of your return is lower anything you lay on the board due to the table's margin.

For example betting on black vs white.

Return 2:1
Odds of winning 0.47 (say...)

EV on a $100 bet is therefore $94 (200 x .47) which is less than what u paid. Betting strategies can't get around this as you can resolve any betting strategy down to individual bets. Blackjack betting boils down to counting cards until the EV of your bet is higher than your stake and then uping your bet dramatically - but you still need that odds advantage.

Wow this really has made a tent of my trousers but I gotta catch some z's - will bookmark this one. Cheers for posting this studio

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studio
Ok, Just for my GFY friends... Here is the Deal... If 50 of you will agree to join my program and promote my site pineapplepink.com for a month to see how it does for you. I will put the system on a webpage and share it with all that agree to promote my site.

Start a list in this thread...

dont you know when to give up, either post it or fuck off. People arent going to waste their time when the likelyhood is the sytem doesnt work.....

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudus
For example betting on black vs white.

I dont think you have much of a chance betting on white

studio 01-17-2005 10:47 AM

OK, You winers... I'll put it on a Fucking web page for you all... All I'm asking is If it works... Join my Program and send some fucking traffic to the Girls of Pineapplepink!

I'll post a link here in a little bit...

dudus 01-17-2005 10:47 AM

Oops! You got me dude... that's why I always get creamed

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studio
OK, You winers... I'll put it on a Fucking web page for you all... All I'm asking is If it works... Join my Program and send some fucking traffic to the Girls of Pineapplepink!

I'll post a link here in a little bit...

thats more like

[illnet]-Romeo 01-17-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Wrong.
On roulette, you always get a 50/50 chance.

It's very possible to get 20 blacks in a row.
It's always a 50/50 chace.


Wrong, the 0 and 00 lower it off a 50/50 chance for a black or red to come up :winkwink:



Also here's the major flaw with the system in this thread. Ask yourself this, Are you willing to loose 31k (in the mentioned example) to win 1,000?

dudus 01-17-2005 10:51 AM

This thread give anyone else a boner?

nico-t 01-17-2005 10:54 AM

well i hear alotta ppl throwing systems in the trash, and with the exception of the ones who actually tried it they just think it cant be done without any reason. I like that playing on the 3rds one.. when i got enough cash im gonna try some shit

tranza 01-17-2005 11:16 AM

I think Dostoievski came up with that theory when he wrote "The Gambler" (I'm not sure if that's the name in english).

Adulter 01-17-2005 11:18 AM

That's a Martingale system. That's why casino limits the max bet.

You can't win without just a luck, forget about it...

studio 01-17-2005 11:23 AM

nico-t,

Don't try it... I'm telling you it will not work...

Almost done with the webpage with the only system that will work...

Tipsy 01-17-2005 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
well i hear alotta ppl throwing systems in the trash, and with the exception of the ones who actually tried it they just think it cant be done without any reason.

Totally wrong. What is actually happening is they have the intelligence to know the reason(s) already.

dready 01-17-2005 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi
Wrong.
On roulette, you always get a 50/50 chance.

It's very possible to get 20 blacks in a row.
It's always a 50/50 chace.

Exactly... it has nothing to do with how many turns you keep trying... odds don't work that way... it's always 48% it will hit black or red.

CoolE 01-17-2005 11:31 AM

Sigh, this thread is for the mathematically challenged, and it's got nothing to do with table limits.

The series of bets boils down to betting whether your colour will come up BEFORE you run out of money. It boils down to this bet here: You have $15 in your pocket. You bet 15$ ($1-$2-$4-$8) that in the next 4 spins red will come up (at least once). If it does you win $1 (wow!), if 4 non-reds come up, you lose $15.

Do you take the bet? Answer: No, of course not.

studio 01-17-2005 11:33 AM

OK, should I put the link to the system in the affiliates area of pineapplecash...? Or will you all hold up your end and join and send traffic to my site...

evanmorgan 01-17-2005 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studio
OK, should I put the link to the system in the affiliates area of pineapplecash...? Or will you all hold up your end and join and send traffic to my site...

i will join if it seems like it might work...

wes 01-17-2005 11:39 AM

i dont think I would try, i like my sports betting

Pipeline Q 01-17-2005 11:40 AM

The martingale system. I've used this method three times online. First time I lost 1+2+4+8+16+32+64 for a total of $127 after just a few minutes of playing. I tried the method again online two more times and came away up over $300 both times before I quit. Both winning days took many, many hours of play though since the original unit was only $1.

The speed of a physical casino prevents you from using this system with small bets, so you need the speed of online casinos. It's certainly not solid enough to take to the high rollers table either.

I wrote a program once that simulated this system, and over the long term you'll ALWAYS be the loser.

studio 01-17-2005 11:41 AM

I know it works... took 3 years of wed. nights after work and a lot of beer to figure it out... This is the simples version... We call it the Denric23 I have others versions that you win more on... but those not 100% bullet proof like Denric23.

studio 01-17-2005 11:45 AM

It's up loading now....

studio 01-17-2005 11:48 AM

Maybe I'll post it in a new thread?


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